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Returning to Heroin after a long absence

I was told to shut down and be silent from someone who I assumed had experience with heroine; however, it seems by the responses regarding you returning to heroine, even if I don't have first hand experience with the drug, many who have, portray the same sentiments as me.

Hmm, could it be that even though I have no personal experience with heroine, my statement was valid? I will go one further, you have already acquired clean time from heroine; returning may seem romantic, but I seriously doubt it will ever be the same as before.
 
I was a pretty heavy heroin user in my 20's, I'm from the 80's generation. And I'm not talking about the decade. I started with tar in Los Angeles and then lived in Philadelphia from about 2006-2012 getting bundles from K & A and Camden, sometimes Baltimore or Wilmington. Got sober in 2012, last time I used heroin was January of 2012, I feel like a lot has changed in that time. I haven't been completely sober since 2021. Not a big drinker, pot here and there and for the past few years I've been using kratom, 7-oh now mitragine or whatever is legal where I live in Florida. The past year i have gotten an itch for using heroin again. This isn't a, talk me out of it or go back to meetings thing so please none of that. I feel like alot has changed in 15 years. Idk if its even possible to find actual real heroin anymore. I don't want fentanyl but I feel like thats all there is anymore. And i don't mean like the finding a dealer thing I mean is actual, none fentanyl heroin a thing anymore? Is it safer to try and find tar? I know 15-20 years ago tar was more of a west coast, southwest thing and the north east was all powder & bundles and I remember getting caps in Baltimore I think. Anyways I'd love some advise. I live in the Treasure Coast area of Florida, Martin County, about 30-45 mins N or West Palm. Am I just barking up a fentanyl tree? Are people actually doing actual heroin anymore. I'm not a 23 year old kid anymore who will snort or blast whatever I come across. I'm a 45 year old man with a good job and I good life. I'm not rich by any means but im also not taking a bus to K & A, or walking around on Somerset in 20 degrees looking for a few bags. And most importantly I am not trying to kill myself with fentanyl pretending its heroin. Appreciate any feedback....if im being an idiot feel free to let me know. Thanks
HMU, I live near you, similar situation.
 
Even if I wanted to relapse I don't think I would trust anything out there these days, any street drug too bad because I was missing the coke I used to get through my friend Rob in the 90's. Dude's been dead for along while now that his daughter would now be older than he was when he died but some good ole Aurora Illinois coke would be cool.
 
I was a pretty heavy heroin user in my 20's, I'm from the 80's generation. And I'm not talking about the decade. I started with tar in Los Angeles and then lived in Philadelphia from about 2006-2012 getting bundles from K & A and Camden, sometimes Baltimore or Wilmington. Got sober in 2012, last time I used heroin was January of 2012, I feel like a lot has changed in that time. I haven't been completely sober since 2021. Not a big drinker, pot here and there and for the past few years I've been using kratom, 7-oh now mitragine or whatever is legal where I live in Florida. The past year i have gotten an itch for using heroin again. This isn't a, talk me out of it or go back to meetings thing so please none of that. I feel like alot has changed in 15 years. Idk if its even possible to find actual real heroin anymore. I don't want fentanyl but I feel like thats all there is anymore. And i don't mean like the finding a dealer thing I mean is actual, none fentanyl heroin a thing anymore? Is it safer to try and find tar? I know 15-20 years ago tar was more of a west coast, southwest thing and the north east was all powder & bundles and I remember getting caps in Baltimore I think. Anyways I'd love some advise. I live in the Treasure Coast area of Florida, Martin County, about 30-45 mins N or West Palm. Am I just barking up a fentanyl tree? Are people actually doing actual heroin anymore. I'm not a 23 year old kid anymore who will snort or blast whatever I come across. I'm a 45 year old man with a good job and I good life. I'm not rich by any means but im also not taking a bus to K & A, or walking around on Somerset in 20 degrees looking for a few bags. And most importantly I am not trying to kill myself with fentanyl pretending its heroin. Appreciate any feedback....if im being an idiot feel free to let me know. Thanks
If I were you - and I'm not too far off (got clean from dope in '08) - I wouldn't go back, especially not with the street shit now. Fentanyl cut with metatomidine.... animal tranq plus the worst of the opioids.

If you really want to go back - go on reddit and research the onions. You cannot source here, but reddit will direct you to the things you need to get sorted.

You'll need tor browser, and you'll need bitcoin.

Best of luck
 
I was a pretty heavy heroin user in my 20's, I'm from the 80's generation. And I'm not talking about the decade. I started with tar in Los Angeles and then lived in Philadelphia from about 2006-2012 getting bundles from K & A and Camden, sometimes Baltimore or Wilmington. Got sober in 2012, last time I used heroin was January of 2012, I feel like a lot has changed in that time. I haven't been completely sober since 2021. Not a big drinker, pot here and there and for the past few years I've been using kratom, 7-oh now mitragine or whatever is legal where I live in Florida. The past year i have gotten an itch for using heroin again. This isn't a, talk me out of it or go back to meetings thing so please none of that. I feel like alot has changed in 15 years. Idk if its even possible to find actual real heroin anymore. I don't want fentanyl but I feel like thats all there is anymore. And i don't mean like the finding a dealer thing I mean is actual, none fentanyl heroin a thing anymore? Is it safer to try and find tar? I know 15-20 years ago tar was more of a west coast, southwest thing and the north east was all powder & bundles and I remember getting caps in Baltimore I think. Anyways I'd love some advise. I live in the Treasure Coast area of Florida, Martin County, about 30-45 mins N or West Palm. Am I just barking up a fentanyl tree? Are people actually doing actual heroin anymore. I'm not a 23 year old kid anymore who will snort or blast whatever I come across. I'm a 45 year old man with a good job and I good life. I'm not rich by any means but im also not taking a bus to K & A, or walking around on Somerset in 20 degrees looking for a few bags. And most importantly I am not trying to kill myself with fentanyl pretending its heroin. Appreciate any feedback....if im being an idiot feel free to let me know. Thanks
Hey there, welcome to Bluelight! We have a lot in common. I’m 33, from LA born & raised. Did a lot of heroin in my 20’s after a stretch of opioid pain killer dependence. I stopped using in early 2021. That’s a good question, I’ve also wondered if anyone uses real heroin anymore. I’m talking the Mexican brown tar in a balloon that I was used to. I feel like everything now probably has fentanyl in it. Or this new 7oh drug or whatever the kids call it lol. I’d definitely be too afraid to use heroin in this day bc of all the fentanyl. I had a fent overdose in late 2020, but that was me trying to find oblivion. I knew it was fent. Anyway, if you ever need anyone to talk to just holla at ya girl 💜
 
Even if I wanted to relapse I don't think I would trust anything out there these days, any street drug too bad because I was missing the coke I used to get through my friend Rob in the 90's. Dude's been dead for along while now that his daughter would now be older than he was when he died but some good ole Aurora Illinois coke would be cool.
Same here. I was just telling my husband the other day that I’d be way too scary to use now bc of all the fentanyl in everything
 
If I were you - and I'm not too far off (got clean from dope in '08) - I wouldn't go back, especially not with the street shit now. Fentanyl cut with metatomidine.... animal tranq plus the worst of the opioids.

If you really want to go back - go on reddit and research the onions. You cannot source here, but reddit will direct you to the things you need to get sorted.

You'll need tor browser, and you'll need bitcoin.

Best of luck
I remember the onion days lol I may have used that route a time or two
 
I remember the onion days lol I may have used that route a time or two
They're still alive! I haven't gone onion farming in a minute as I have connects for what I may or may not need, but the onions remain a viable route for vegetable nutrition and thanks to regulatory efforts, remain a place where food safety testing is a standard.

Substitute food and vegetables for: Drugs.
 
Hey there, welcome to Bluelight! We have a lot in common. I’m 33, from LA born & raised. Did a lot of heroin in my 20’s after a stretch of opioid pain killer dependence. I stopped using in early 2021. That’s a good question, I’ve also wondered if anyone uses real heroin anymore. I’m talking the Mexican brown tar in a balloon that I was used to. I feel like everything now probably has fentanyl in it. Or this new 7oh drug or whatever the kids call it lol. I’d definitely be too afraid to use heroin in this day bc of all the fentanyl. I had a fent overdose in late 2020, but that was me trying to find oblivion. I knew it was fent. Anyway, if you ever need anyone to talk to just holla at ya girl 💜
I happened upon an episode of This American Life this morning - 'The Secret of My Death' - the first act is a sister of a woman who overdosed and died back in the early 2010s (it seems, the episode originally aired in like 2018) - she's going through her sister's phone and seeing the texts sent and calls made in the day of her death and the days leading up to it. It's some real shit, had me in tears while listening.

I got clean in '08 from dope, long before fentanyl came in the way it eventually would (we had a blip in '06 on the east coast - a likely beta test by the cartels to see if fetty would pass market saturation). What got me clean was finding my friend Eric dead from an OD. I was living with him and using at the time, but we'd had a fight a few days before and I had stayed with friends. During that time, he reached out to me to try and cop and since we'd been fighting I told him to fuck off. His mom and brother went through his phone after he died and saw our texts - his mom later called me in 2018 after finding me on facebook. She said I was one of the last people he saw and talked to, she just wanted to know more about what happened. She said that they thought I was the person who gave him the bad drugs, or that I had been there when he died. She also said that it was the text messages that showed I wasn't.

I often think about that, how him dying helped me see that I needed to get clean. How getting clean lead me to going back to school to study to become a public health social worker (MPH, MSW) and work in addictions throughout the rise of fentanyl. How that work led me to facing so many overdoses like Eric's, so many patients and families that were effected by overdose deaths, or would be. How many friends I've lost, people who helped me get clean, people I used with, people I dated, people I helped get clean, people in my family... how much death we've all known from this shit.

I'm glad to know that overdose deaths have finally started to come down. The last few years have lead to a drop in the death rate amongst users, and that trend will hopefully continue. I've seen too much death for one life.
 
Hello. I’ve been in the shadows of BL for a long time. Learning, and ultimately looking for the same thing you are. I did however go the distance and went out in search of that boy we all knew so well. Where on earth has he gone to!? Certainly not here in the Midwest where he used to frequent the major cities and small towns. All I’ve found is the same thing that everyone here talks about, and I call her “Fenny” but she should be more aptly named as something closer to the truth like; “Bringer of Death.” No euphoria or warm fuzzy “mommy hugs” like that boy used to bring. We share a lot in common. I am also in my 40’s and have a nice life. Being out there and “playing the game” with these new age DD’s is about as reckless as one can get, but like you I desire that old connection so desperately that I started finding myself in the nittiest and grittiest places, asking the same question we used to ask. “You fuck with that boy?” And I get led to a spot where I inevitably get what is not at all what I want. Oh don’t get me wrong, I deff tried it. Kinda had to after all that work, right? So there I was with a brand new setup, and doing the initial test loads. Hmmm, so there is a feeling that this new girl in town “Fenny” has that isn’t really describable. It’s kinda just like falling asleep, then waking up. No nod. No warmth. Just a small prick, a push of a plunger, and then sleep. Now don’t get me wrong, I love sleep. And if it’s done correctly, I found I can nod for awhile which I also like. Soooo, I got a steady supply and dove down a rabbit hole because I’m an addict and that’s what addicts do.
The thread is about looking for an old friend, and I haven’t forgotten that. I’m just giving you the rundown of what happened with my travels to find exactly what you are looking for. I’ve had several dozen different colored bags of what people now call heroin, and it is not by any means heroin. Not even the tar I scored was actually tar. It’s exactly what others have told you it will be; Fenny and her friends who are a mixture of substances that basically knock you out. It does however have incredible pain reduction capabilities and lasts quite awhile. For me that was nice since I live in constant pain, and can’t get anything decent for it from the doctor anymore without going through the maze. It’s unreal how hard it is to get opiates anymore. Legally, or otherwise. Trust me, I’ve tried to get it any way I could. I don’t know about you, but it kinda feels like looking for love for me. I miss that feeling so fucking much! Like you, I was in my 20’s when we all had access to either good pharmaceuticals, or #4 on the street. “Afghan Gray” was what I got back then. Also called “raw” and it was indeed TT raw! Most people had to cut it with Dorm just to blast a “tenth” or it would send them to the ER on an O.D. or to the dumpster from the trap. I’m still on topic, just follow me as I tell the story.
A man in his 40’s out there in the streets, looking for true H with a pocket full of money and nothing better to do has spent literally thousands of dollars on “Boy” that is not a boy at all, but that’s what everyone still calls it. They call Fent the same shit they called heroin back then and that makes the journey to find it very, very confusing. I’ve traveled all over the damn place, being told each time that this guy has what I’m looking for. I get excited. I feel like I gotta shit every time I get something that resembles what I used to know. Get home, test it, and fuck me if it ain’t fent again. I thought for sure St.Louis would be the spot…nope. So Kansas City will have the tar…nope. Now I’m to the point where I’m literally plotting on going out of the country to get what I want. I mean, surely Mexico will have it, right? Maybe if I go into the golden triangle somewhere…Asia? Bad idea. All bad ideas.
I unfortunately don’t know how to do the “dark web” thing and even if I did I just feel like I’d end up in jail or something.
I know why it’s like this. It’s pretty easy to figure it all out. We are no longer at war in the Middle East, and that means that all of those transport vessels can no longer supply the nation. It’s around, like people here say, but finding it is either going to be pure luck, or taking the risks of the dark web, traveling to someplace quite unsavory that may lead you to a grave in the desert, or being kidnapped for ransom.
So I said fuck it and started methadone. It’s as close as I can get, and keeps me out of the streets. Is it close to what we want? Not even. It does help with cravings though, which will NEVER go away. I hate it. I hate that I can’t have that feeling I want. It’s not fair.
So I ranted a bit. I guess I just wanted to tell someone else who was experiencing the same thing I was to understand what it looks like if you go out and try to find what you’re looking for. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t have any luck. Maybe you will, or maybe this will stop you from going out and trying to find it because I can tell you for certain that it is extremely dangerous out there now. I consider myself lucky that nothing bad happened to me on my journey to find that boy. I still have hope though lol. I hope that one day I can score myself a good oz of some actual #4 TT raw. I swear I would make it last!
 
Hello. I’ve been in the shadows of BL for a long time. Learning, and ultimately looking for the same thing you are. I did however go the distance and went out in search of that boy we all knew so well. Where on earth has he gone to!? Certainly not here in the Midwest where he used to frequent the major cities and small towns. All I’ve found is the same thing that everyone here talks about, and I call her “Fenny” but she should be more aptly named as something closer to the truth like; “Bringer of Death.” No euphoria or warm fuzzy “mommy hugs” like that boy used to bring. We share a lot in common. I am also in my 40’s and have a nice life. Being out there and “playing the game” with these new age DD’s is about as reckless as one can get, but like you I desire that old connection so desperately that I started finding myself in the nittiest and grittiest places, asking the same question we used to ask. “You fuck with that boy?” And I get led to a spot where I inevitably get what is not at all what I want. Oh don’t get me wrong, I deff tried it. Kinda had to after all that work, right? So there I was with a brand new setup, and doing the initial test loads. Hmmm, so there is a feeling that this new girl in town “Fenny” has that isn’t really describable. It’s kinda just like falling asleep, then waking up. No nod. No warmth. Just a small prick, a push of a plunger, and then sleep. Now don’t get me wrong, I love sleep. And if it’s done correctly, I found I can nod for awhile which I also like. Soooo, I got a steady supply and dove down a rabbit hole because I’m an addict and that’s what addicts do.
The thread is about looking for an old friend, and I haven’t forgotten that. I’m just giving you the rundown of what happened with my travels to find exactly what you are looking for. I’ve had several dozen different colored bags of what people now call heroin, and it is not by any means heroin. Not even the tar I scored was actually tar. It’s exactly what others have told you it will be; Fenny and her friends who are a mixture of substances that basically knock you out. It does however have incredible pain reduction capabilities and lasts quite awhile. For me that was nice since I live in constant pain, and can’t get anything decent for it from the doctor anymore without going through the maze. It’s unreal how hard it is to get opiates anymore. Legally, or otherwise. Trust me, I’ve tried to get it any way I could. I don’t know about you, but it kinda feels like looking for love for me. I miss that feeling so fucking much! Like you, I was in my 20’s when we all had access to either good pharmaceuticals, or #4 on the street. “Afghan Gray” was what I got back then. Also called “raw” and it was indeed TT raw! Most people had to cut it with Dorm just to blast a “tenth” or it would send them to the ER on an O.D. or to the dumpster from the trap. I’m still on topic, just follow me as I tell the story.
A man in his 40’s out there in the streets, looking for true H with a pocket full of money and nothing better to do has spent literally thousands of dollars on “Boy” that is not a boy at all, but that’s what everyone still calls it. They call Fent the same shit they called heroin back then and that makes the journey to find it very, very confusing. I’ve traveled all over the damn place, being told each time that this guy has what I’m looking for. I get excited. I feel like I gotta shit every time I get something that resembles what I used to know. Get home, test it, and fuck me if it ain’t fent again. I thought for sure St.Louis would be the spot…nope. So Kansas City will have the tar…nope. Now I’m to the point where I’m literally plotting on going out of the country to get what I want. I mean, surely Mexico will have it, right? Maybe if I go into the golden triangle somewhere…Asia? Bad idea. All bad ideas.
I unfortunately don’t know how to do the “dark web” thing and even if I did I just feel like I’d end up in jail or something.
I know why it’s like this. It’s pretty easy to figure it all out. We are no longer at war in the Middle East, and that means that all of those transport vessels can no longer supply the nation. It’s around, like people here say, but finding it is either going to be pure luck, or taking the risks of the dark web, traveling to someplace quite unsavory that may lead you to a grave in the desert, or being kidnapped for ransom.
So I said fuck it and started methadone. It’s as close as I can get, and keeps me out of the streets. Is it close to what we want? Not even. It does help with cravings though, which will NEVER go away. I hate it. I hate that I can’t have that feeling I want. It’s not fair.
So I ranted a bit. I guess I just wanted to tell someone else who was experiencing the same thing I was to understand what it looks like if you go out and try to find what you’re looking for. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t have any luck. Maybe you will, or maybe this will stop you from going out and trying to find it because I can tell you for certain that it is extremely dangerous out there now. I consider myself lucky that nothing bad happened to me on my journey to find that boy. I still have hope though lol. I hope that one day I can score myself a good oz of some actual #4 TT raw. I swear I would make it last!
Very moving, thank you
 
Hello. I’ve been in the shadows of BL for a long time. Learning, and ultimately looking for the same thing you are. I did however go the distance and went out in search of that boy we all knew so well. Where on earth has he gone to!? Certainly not here in the Midwest where he used to frequent the major cities and small towns. All I’ve found is the same thing that everyone here talks about, and I call her “Fenny” but she should be more aptly named as something closer to the truth like; “Bringer of Death.” No euphoria or warm fuzzy “mommy hugs” like that boy used to bring. We share a lot in common. I am also in my 40’s and have a nice life. Being out there and “playing the game” with these new age DD’s is about as reckless as one can get, but like you I desire that old connection so desperately that I started finding myself in the nittiest and grittiest places, asking the same question we used to ask. “You fuck with that boy?” And I get led to a spot where I inevitably get what is not at all what I want. Oh don’t get me wrong, I deff tried it. Kinda had to after all that work, right? So there I was with a brand new setup, and doing the initial test loads. Hmmm, so there is a feeling that this new girl in town “Fenny” has that isn’t really describable. It’s kinda just like falling asleep, then waking up. No nod. No warmth. Just a small prick, a push of a plunger, and then sleep. Now don’t get me wrong, I love sleep. And if it’s done correctly, I found I can nod for awhile which I also like. Soooo, I got a steady supply and dove down a rabbit hole because I’m an addict and that’s what addicts do.
The thread is about looking for an old friend, and I haven’t forgotten that. I’m just giving you the rundown of what happened with my travels to find exactly what you are looking for. I’ve had several dozen different colored bags of what people now call heroin, and it is not by any means heroin. Not even the tar I scored was actually tar. It’s exactly what others have told you it will be; Fenny and her friends who are a mixture of substances that basically knock you out. It does however have incredible pain reduction capabilities and lasts quite awhile. For me that was nice since I live in constant pain, and can’t get anything decent for it from the doctor anymore without going through the maze. It’s unreal how hard it is to get opiates anymore. Legally, or otherwise. Trust me, I’ve tried to get it any way I could. I don’t know about you, but it kinda feels like looking for love for me. I miss that feeling so fucking much! Like you, I was in my 20’s when we all had access to either good pharmaceuticals, or #4 on the street. “Afghan Gray” was what I got back then. Also called “raw” and it was indeed TT raw! Most people had to cut it with Dorm just to blast a “tenth” or it would send them to the ER on an O.D. or to the dumpster from the trap. I’m still on topic, just follow me as I tell the story.
A man in his 40’s out there in the streets, looking for true H with a pocket full of money and nothing better to do has spent literally thousands of dollars on “Boy” that is not a boy at all, but that’s what everyone still calls it. They call Fent the same shit they called heroin back then and that makes the journey to find it very, very confusing. I’ve traveled all over the damn place, being told each time that this guy has what I’m looking for. I get excited. I feel like I gotta shit every time I get something that resembles what I used to know. Get home, test it, and fuck me if it ain’t fent again. I thought for sure St.Louis would be the spot…nope. So Kansas City will have the tar…nope. Now I’m to the point where I’m literally plotting on going out of the country to get what I want. I mean, surely Mexico will have it, right? Maybe if I go into the golden triangle somewhere…Asia? Bad idea. All bad ideas.
I unfortunately don’t know how to do the “dark web” thing and even if I did I just feel like I’d end up in jail or something.
I know why it’s like this. It’s pretty easy to figure it all out. We are no longer at war in the Middle East, and that means that all of those transport vessels can no longer supply the nation. It’s around, like people here say, but finding it is either going to be pure luck, or taking the risks of the dark web, traveling to someplace quite unsavory that may lead you to a grave in the desert, or being kidnapped for ransom.
So I said fuck it and started methadone. It’s as close as I can get, and keeps me out of the streets. Is it close to what we want? Not even. It does help with cravings though, which will NEVER go away. I hate it. I hate that I can’t have that feeling I want. It’s not fair.
So I ranted a bit. I guess I just wanted to tell someone else who was experiencing the same thing I was to understand what it looks like if you go out and try to find what you’re looking for. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t have any luck. Maybe you will, or maybe this will stop you from going out and trying to find it because I can tell you for certain that it is extremely dangerous out there now. I consider myself lucky that nothing bad happened to me on my journey to find that boy. I still have hope though lol. I hope that one day I can score myself a good oz of some actual #4 TT raw. I swear I would make it last!
Hey there, welcome to Bluelight! I’m someone who was a hardcore opiate addict. Oxy, IV heroin, and a one-off fentanyl overdose. From age 18 to 29. I thought I would NEVER get clean. I thought the cravings would never end. I thought there would never be a point in time where I didn’t want opiates with all of my soul. Methadone really saved my life. I’ve been free from opiates since 2020. Wanna know the best part? I haven’t had a single relapse or a single craving. Crazy, right? If I can do it, I know you can too. If you ever need someone to talk to, who knows your struggle, holla at ya girl 💜
 
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