5-mapb question

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hey there...so when i joined bluelight, it was when i discovered mdma...well, i came across an ad for an online store that sells 5-mapb and other things, and i have to say that i am REALLY impressed.
honestly, i took a 100 mg gel cap, it was one of the best rolls i have ever had, AND it lasted 10 hours! Can anyone explain to me how its legal? it honestly seems to good to be true!
that said, the day after was definitely a bit rough, and idk if it was from that, or taking a couple of 5htp capsules that morning.
i am pretty excited about this, as being an older enjoyer it is not quite as easy to find a scene for this sort of thing, sadly.

ETA i also meant to ask if anyone knew if there were any issues with me actually being an older user? im 51 now, but this is my 1st time with 5-mapb, i havent been able to find any information about doing it safely as a middle aged woman.

 

[Featherfall]

Okay, so your going to want to take less the older you get with mdma. It probably works similarly there, also, since it does very similar things to mdma you should ABSOLUTELY NOT DO ITMORE THAN EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS, people do not regularly know this, but you risk really damaging your brain if you do not let the tolerance fully leave you. Timeframe should be about every 3-6 months, 2 months is acceptable but anything close to weekly or biweekly is a no. If you stick to this, stay hydrated (preferably with a electrolyte drink like gatorade) during the expirience you will be safe and happy to enjoy this drug securely.

As to how its legal, research chemicals. Unscheduled substances being sold on the grey market, when the goverments start banning specific compounds is always different

 

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oh for sure....when i first started using ecstasy, i abused the hell out of it..i ended up doing it as much as humanly possible, which i think is why i have a bit of short term memory loss..this stuff is amazing, but it was super intense, i definitely wouldnt want to do this more than the recommended 3 months later or so.
that said...one issue that i didnt like was the stomach issues and bad headaches..ive never had that before, and i dont understand why. i still feel a bit sketchy.

 

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Can anyone explain to me how its legal?

Well.. it's a completely different drug with a different chemical formula and mass. The way the law is written (at least in the USA) is a compound needs to be specifically listed under the Controlled Substance Act. Separately if it is an isomer or structurally similar enough it could be prosecuted under the US Federal analogue act which treats "any chemical that is "substantially similar" to a Schedule I or Schedule II controlled substance as an illegal Schedule I drug, provided it is intended for human consumption." Which is open to interpretation. Ever since the Farm Bill of 2018 people have been extremely brazen about selling things that earlier would have easily been classified as an analogue. It does blow my mind that people are openly selling 5-MAPB though. I highly doubt it will remain legal forever. Eventually people will probably go to jail over this.

MDMA = C₁₁H₁₅NO₂
5-MAPB = C12H15NO

I've always preferred MDMA myself but would take 5-MAPB if that was all that I had access to.

 

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it does blow my mind that people are openly selling 5-MAPB though. I highly doubt it will remain legal forever. Eventually people will probably go to jail over this.

really? i honestly am not very knowledgeable about any of this, but what really drew my attention was the fancy packaging and really friendly customer service. that, and it literally took a couple of days. that said, ive seen others share this opinion, so im thinking of stocking up while i can.

 

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was the fancy packaging and really friendly customer service.

Yeah like I said, people have become EXTREMELY brazen. There is a very interesting pod cast on Hamilton Morris's patreon with someone named Judd Weiss who is openly producing and selling this compound. It's... really really ballsy. I can go get it at a headshop just down the road at this very moment. I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. Yes I want people to have access to these compounds, but I'm not sure I agree with the tactic that some of these entrepreneurs are using or their obvious financial incentive.

 

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Yeah like I said, people have become EXTREMELY brazen. There is a very interesting pod cast on Hamilton Morris's patreon with someone named Judd Weiss who is openly producing and selling this compound. It's... really really ballsy. I can go get it at a headshop just down the road at this very moment. I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. Yes I want people to have access to these compounds, but I'm not sure I agree with the tactic that some of these entrepreneurs are using or their obvious financial incentive.

i was thinking about that myself....and yes that is the guy who i guess is selling the things i bought..my thinking is that the moment some bored mom sees this in the store, there will be some news story about it, creating a panic, and ruining everything. even though i am older, i dont understand the weird panic over any of this. naivety maybe but it doesnt seem like a major deal to me anyway

 

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oh for sure....when i first started using ecstasy, i abused the hell out of it..i ended up doing it as much as humanly possible, which i think is why i have a bit of short term memory loss..

oh yeah, that will do ya. People just dont know you need to let your brain recover first, otherwise you can really fry your seretonin. Its not worth it to abuse anyway since it falls off so drastically in effect

this stuff is amazing, but it was super intense, i definitely wouldnt want to do this more than the recommended 3 months later or so.
that said...one issue that i didnt like was the stomach issues and bad headaches..ive never had that before, and i dont understand why. i still feel a bit sketchy.

you did take 200mgs which is really high, 100mgs is already quite alot. In your age especially, its likely you just need less of it. I'd say work your way up to a comfortable dose to see where you get most out of the expirience with the least side effects. With drugs, more doesnt always mean better, it can often mean more side effects and less of the wanted feeling. Testing at 50mgs next might be smart and then going up from there, but really 200 is alot.

 

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oh yeah, that will do ya. People just dont know you need to let your brain recover first, otherwise you can really fry your seretonin. Its not worth it to abuse anyway since it falls off so drastically in effect

you did take 200mgs which is really high, 100mgs is already quite alot. In your age especially, its likely you just need less of it. I'd say work your way up to a comfortable dose to see where you get most out of the expirience with the least side effects. With drugs, more doesnt always mean better, it can often mean more side effects and less of the wanted feeling. Testing at 50mgs next might be smart and then going up from there, but really 200 is alot.

hmm? no i only took 100mgs, the box said that each gel was 100...oh god no, i think that would be it for me if i tried that..but when i was massively abusing ecstasy, i definitely easily did 200mgs..was not good. was an interesting time in my life though. but now im just looking for something to enjoy at shows and while listening to music at home. kind of wish i knew other people my age who enjoys this sort of thing, but sadly it doesnt seem to be a thing.

 

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hmm? no i only took 100mgs, the box said that each gel was 100...oh god no, i think that would be it for me if i tried that..but when i was massively abusing ecstasy, i definitely easily did 200mgs..was not good. was an interesting time in my life though. but now im just looking for something to enjoy at shows and while listening to music at home. kind of wish i knew other people my age who enjoys this sort of thing, but sadly it doesnt seem to be a thing.

i must have misread, i for some reason thought you had done 200 xd, i apologize. Maybe half a gel cap next time then, to see how it feels in regards to nausea and the headache. Maybe smoking a bit of pot during the come down/come up could help and shouldnt be to bad of a combination. Though as with all combinations, less than when doing it alone, so 50mgs with that could work. Theres some good meds for nausea during trips as well but i m always skeptical of taking to many things at once. How bad is the nausea and headache? Managable with ibprofen/electrolytes or to much?

a empathogen without people is a little sad always but maybe you can find some old hippies to do it with, the 68ers loved this stuff i m told

 

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i must have misread, i for some reason thought you had done 200 xd, i apologize. Maybe half a gel cap next time then, to see how it feels in regards to nausea and the headache. Maybe smoking a bit of pot during the come down/come up could help and shouldnt be to bad of a combination. Though as with all combinations, less than when doing it alone, so 50mgs with that could work. Theres some good meds for nausea during trips as well but i m always skeptical of taking to many things at once. How bad is the nausea and headache? Managable with ibprofen/electrolytes or to much?

a empathogen without people is a little sad always but maybe you can find some old hippies to do it with, the 68ers loved this stuff i m told

so i have a stash of zofran, and i took a couple of those beforehand, as i had read about nausea...and drank some gatorade too. i am really bad about drinking water at all, though..i honestly had a great time, but several hours after it wore off, i ended up with a horrific migraine, and i took a bunch of oxycodone and sudafed for that..but it came back a couple of times. was very odd. and yesterday i was in a very strange headspace too, i didnt feel like myself at all, but i feel completely normal now. i think maybe i need to start drinking water regularly, and im absolutely taking way less next time. i read on reddit that it was weaker than, so i was like cool, this wont be a big deal at all, but it was
if i can get rid of the yucky side effects, it seems to be a fun little drug for sure. also no way would i ever ever take any of this alone, i was with my husband, he is great at playing dj and armchair therapist for me during...i agree, it would be sad to take something as wonderful as this and not have anyone with whom to connect, i dont think i would bother.
i usually go out to clubs and things, but i wanted to test it before going anywhere, because ive made that mistake before, of assuming its going to be ok.
oddly enough? i have done plenty of acid, mushrooms, ecstasy, etc...but weed? scared the hell out of me. nothing will freak me out quicker than weed, i think its the disassociative qualities of it or something. thank you for your advice though, it is MUCH appreciated.