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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Favorite 2C-x Thread II: Tokyo Drift

Which is your favorite 2C-x compound?

  • 2C-B

    Votes: 14 25.5%
  • 2C-C

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2C-D

    Votes: 3 5.5%
  • 2C-E

    Votes: 16 29.1%
  • 2C-I

    Votes: 9 16.4%
  • 2C-N

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2C-P

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2C-T-2

    Votes: 3 5.5%
  • 2C-T-4

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2C-T-7

    Votes: 4 7.3%
  • 2C-T-21

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2C-TFM

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Other (Please list below so I can add it to the poll)

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • βk-2C-B

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2C-B-FLY

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • 2C-EF

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Total voters
    55
How do you like the headspace? Unfortunately it seems very bland to me, not much of the "mind-soul-body connection" like 2C-B and no teeth (introspection, forceful or not)
Well I always thought the lighter headspace was rather enjoyable with it. I was more able to interact with others and it provided visual entertainment while not being overwhelming. To me it’s an almost ideal psychedelic that I always likened to a “lighter version of LSD”. The lessened headspace and shorter duration provide what I like in a trip and I don’t recall there being much body load.

I have only a small amount of 2C-B to experiment with when I can get around to it. Maybe 200mg? It was a small gift from an old friend. But with 2C-C I probably have about 2.2-2.5G left still that I’ve tried to savor over the years since it disappeared.

I do want to retry 2C-D. I may like it now and maybe I won’t get that horrible headache I recall. I think the most I ever took of it was 25mg and it was very painful in the head during the peak. Interesting for listening to music but short lived and just heavy on my body.
 
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Late trip and post trip headaches seem pretty common, but a "horrible headache" at the peak sounds potentially unhealthy---like maybe your blood pressure was dangerously elevated. I suspect a minority of people don't react particularly well to 2C-D and may have problems like these. Definitely proceed with care. I hope it ends up working out for you.
 
Just dropped a tab of acid and 25 mg of 2C-I. Things are getting strange. I don’t particularly enjoy the come up of any psych, other than DMT.
 
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If that's some good acid, then I imagine you're getting a pretty strong trip. I've taken LSD and 2C-I together twice using 15-16 mg 2C-I in both cases, and I enjoyed those trips quite a lot.

The 25 mg 2C-I alone is enough for some very powerful visuals in my experience. It's my max, and I've done it twice. The first time, I got lost staring at a plasma globe / lamp for hours. Watching it triggered a constant stream of amazing secondary visuals. The second time was at an outdoor party in the mountains, and the effects ramped up while I exploring the surroundings. I became extremely disoriented and briefly feared I was lost in the woods, but after a few minutes, I realized I could just follow the sound of the music. I was only actually about 150 feet away. I found my partner who'd also taken 25 mg who reported that she'd watched the side of a shed melt off. She was a bit unnerved until she followed a friend's advice and changed from a skirt and stockings into blue jeans. By then we'd passed the peak.
 
If that's some good acid, then I imagine you're getting a pretty strong trip. I've taken LSD and 2C-I together twice using 15-16 mg 2C-I in both cases, and I enjoyed those trips quite a lot.

The 25 mg 2C-I alone is enough for some very powerful visuals in my experience. It's my max, and I've done it twice. The first time, I got lost staring at a plasma globe / lamp for hours. Watching it triggered a constant stream of amazing secondary visuals. The second time was at an outdoor party in the mountains, and the effects ramped up while I exploring the surroundings. I became extremely disoriented and briefly feared I was lost in the woods, but after a few minutes, I realized I could just follow the sound of the music. I was only actually about 150 feet away. I found my partner who'd also taken 25 mg who reported that she'd watched the side of a shed melt off. She was a bit unnerved until she followed a friend's advice and changed from a skirt and stockings into blue jeans. By then we'd passed the peak.
Unfortunately psychs have just stopped working over time. I get some of the mental effects, but the visuals aren’t there. Perhaps some increased color saturation and mild morphing, breathing of objects. Not sure if it’s sustained drug abuse coupled with aging, just can’t get that magic back, which is disheartening.

Luckily, there’s DMT. I just smoked the last of a batch and although it wasn’t a breakthrough, I had some rapidly changing intricate visuals. I could still sense a presence, as if something was putting on a show for me. Too bad it doesn’t last longer. I have the last pull sitting in the freezer and I just checked it. Surprisingly there’s more precipitation of crystals than I thought. I adjusted my freezer settings so perhaps that helped. Debating as to whether to let it sit a full 24 hours or if 16 hours will suffice.

It’s rather perplexing, for me DMT is like the most chillest intense psych ever. Never seem to ever have a bad trip. Sort of puts u in this hypnotic trance and you don’t have much time to even freak out. Just feels like a beautiful embrace.
 
 
Loved 2ci, 2ce seemed a little too personal lol, 2cb I have, tried bk2cb around 300mg and was the most euphoria I have ever had ... literally grinning ear to ear, thought I would never find 2ci again but alas a small sample of that and t2 the universe blessed me, after 10+ years of asking lol
 
Question about 2cp, does it share the same steep dose response curve that 2ce has?
Probably. I mean I think when people talk about dose response curves, they are thinking in rather subjective terms and often fail to scale for differences in potency. In general, I think 2C-P is about 2X as potent as 2C-E, so that means that if starting from doses of similar intensity, adding 1 mg of 2C-P will be similar to adding 2 mg of 2C-E.

I have also seen multiple anecdotes reported (including in PIHKAL) suggesting that there can be a fair amount of individual variation, and that's reason enough to titrate up slowly. The extra long duration is yet another reason.

I would suggest 4 mg as an initial "evaluation dose" for most people, even though it probably won't be full trip unless one is unusually sensitive. Experienced trippers might start at 5 mg or even up to 6 mg, but these doses could be difficult for someone who is unexpectedly hypersensitive.

I still can't forget one guy I went camping with, a highly experienced tripper, who took 12 mg of 2C-E for his first time. He spent 10 hours hiding in his sleeping bag. Having a sitter and/or a benzo around just in case is probably a good idea if going any higher than 4 mg on 2C-P for the first time.

Lastly, be warned that oral 2C-P has the slowest onset of any psychedelic I've ever taken. Very little happens for the first 1-2 hours, and it needs 5-6 hours to peak.
 
@iom i think u currently one of the wisest psychedelic heads on BL. Your advice is always considered carefully.

Im already pre pussing out at least for the phish show. I think ima wait til i have a good 4 days of free time minimum. The 5-6 hr peak.. makes me think a little about DOB, but even it peaks a bit sooner than that id say.

The 4C-B i think will be the choice. It sounds rather gentle and tbh, i dont really care for phish all that much so best to not be floored/uncomftorable. Otherwise i might run out screaming lol.

I think when i do gain the courage. 5mg sounds appropriate for me.
 
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