Ketamine Vaping ketamine with a nebulizer?

[BadBoy377]

You can do as you please.

Aye, I can.

I quite clearly state in my post that I do not recommend other people do this.

That fact remains that it can be done to and beyond the threshold that it has a psychoactive effect. I wouldn't suggest you do it. However it can be done. If it wasn't for a third party posting lkk it then I would never have mentioned lanything about it. The only reason it occurred at all is due to my mindset being completely and utterly 'FUCK IT' with no real care or consideration of the short or long term consequences. It was probably one of the less dangerous acts I could have committed at that point in time.

Anyway, as a point of interest you could look at some of the batches of UK heroin currently on sale using WEDINOS. Some of these contain adulterants which can potentially break down into toxic chemicals when burnt or vaporised.
Probably worth having a look at entry #W102507 in particular. Especially if you're buying pure heroin.

In conclusion let's just remember that everyone has their off days and even the cleverest of people can make the stupidest of mistakes. Rest in peace D M Turner.

 

[Syntherize]

Aye, I can.

I quite clearly state in my post that I do not recommend other people do this.

That fact remains that it can be done to and beyond the threshold that it has a psychoactive effect. I wouldn't suggest you do it. However it can be done. If it wasn't for a third party posting lkk it then I would never have mentioned lanything about it. The only reason it occurred at all is due to my mindset being completely and utterly 'FUCK IT' with no real care or consideration of the short or long term consequences. It was probably one of the less dangerous acts I could have committed at that point in time.

Anyway, as a point of interest you could look at some of the batches of UK heroin currently on sale using WEDINOS. Some of these contain adulterants which can potentially break down into toxic chemicals when burnt or vaporised.
Probably worth having a look at entry #W102507 in particular. Especially if you're buying pure heroin.

In conclusion let's just remember that everyone has their off days and even the cleverest of people can make the stupidest of mistakes. Rest in peace D M Turner.

That reference code didn’t pull up anything for me smh. What is this adulterant that you speak of?

 

[placebonaut]

This is a harm reduction site ....You can do as you please. I just like to inform people of the facts grounded in science not hearsay.

not being funny but you could do it without being such a judgemental dick about it.

educate, don't criticise the person, provide support - all "basic harm reduction" principles.

you have no idea what people are going through, their background, or context here....

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

you have no idea what people are going through, their background, or context here....

 

[Syntherize]

not being funny but you could do it without being such a judgemental dick about it.

educate, don't criticise the person, provide support - all "basic harm reduction" principles.

you have no idea what people are going through, their background, or context here....

The problem is I do know what people go through for the most part bc I’ve been working in Harm Reduction with the Drug Coalition of America alongside Dancesafe too for over fifteen years and far too many individuals are uninformed about their drug of choice resulting in new overdoses and/or deaths. Not to mention, I’ve been here on BL since 2001 under different accounts because I forgot my logins from the old days. It’s not personal but part of being responsible is telling someone they’re being foolish when you see something wrong, because especially these days there are more dangerous RC’s than there ever have been in the past. The old days of “experimenting with drugs” and receiving the substance you actually paid for are long gone except for special circumstances. Nothing is what it seems anymore, and most heroin for instance all over the USA is mostly Xylazine (tranq), Nitazines, Fentanyl, or almost anything else including untested experimental opioids.

P.S. Also, this situation with fentanyl being put into or passed off as other drugs makes me sick. Someone who asks for cocaine or Xanax most likely won’t have an opioid tolerance for something as potent as fentanyl, and this has taken many a good person over the years. I even know of a friend of a friend who was a professional pharmacologist and he overdosed and died before turning thirty due to the fact that he was sold a fake Xanax pill that took his life.

 

[placebonaut]

The problem is I do know what people go through for the most part bc I’ve been working in Harm Reduction with the Drug Coalition of America alongside Dancesafe too for over fifteen years and far too many individuals are uninformed about their drug of choice resulting in new overdoses and/or deaths. Not to mention, I’ve been here on BL since 2001

then to be blunt you should know fucking better.

there is a massive difference from educating other people that what is being done is dangerous & shouldn't be copied, and directly criticising them for something they know is wrong when you don't appreciate the hard times they are currently going through.

just my thoughts on some of these points to explain my thinking below, I'm all for stopping others doing the same thing, I'm completely on your page here.

I would ALSO like to make sure badboy is ok, and give him some support in what I think is a hard time for him right now....

I'm not trying to be an ass hat here, don't think this is an either or situation, we can do both can't we?

I don’t understand why anyone would wanna smoke ketamine?!? Like, why not just IM or snort the L and then chase it with some meth out of the pipe? Smh

smh repeatedly comes across as direct disapproval of them.

Trying to vape ketamine is the dumbest thing in the world. If you don’t understand basic drug chemistry I suggest your “experiments” remain rooted in common science/knowledge.

no need to be condescending ffs

Aye, does it now?

Well it sounds to me like you just like being a judgemental prick without bothering to obtain a full understanding of the situation as it is. But there you go. Opinions are just like arseholes. The internet is full of them.

understandable defensive response

This is a harm reduction site and while you may not care you are inadvertently spreading misinformation about being able to vaporize/smoke ketamine safely

I 100% agree with this

I quite clearly state in my post that I do not recommend other people do this.

he's not stupid, he understands a hell of a lot about drugs!

 

[Syntherize]

then to be blunt you should know fucking better.

there is a massive difference from educating other people that what is being done is dangerous & should be copied, and directly criticising them for something they know is wrong when you don't appreciate the hard times they are currently going through.

just my thoughts on some of these points to explain my thinking below, I'm all for stopping others doing the same thing, I'm completely on your page here.

I would ALSO like to make sure badboy is ok, and give him some support in what I think is a hard time for him right now....

I'm not trying to be an ass hat here, don't think this is an either or situation, we can do both can't we?






smh repeatedly comes across as direct disapproval of them.

no need to be condescending ffs

understandable defensive response

I 100% agree with this

he's not stupid, he understands a hell of a lot about drugs!

Who was the other dude telling him not to smoke ketamine? I’m in the middle of something rn. I have a background in pharmacology and chemistry as well, and any way you cut it trying to smoke/vape ketamine is a really bad idea. Almost as bad as shooting up pills without wheel filters, but just because it can be done doesn’t make it a good idea. There’s that other 15 year old kid here in the OD section popping Benzedrex inhalers with Ritalin which is insane. If you’re a grown adult then do as you please, but that doesn’t mean that someone else who may be better informed cannot interject in order to think about their decisions, but a minor doing the same thing is not something that should be tolerated whatsoever. If I knew the kid’s parental guardians I would even tell them what is going on.

 

[placebonaut]

any way you cut it trying to smoke/vape ketamine is a really bad idea.

no-one is disagreeing with that, even the guy who's doing it!

If you’re a grown adult then do as you please, but that doesn’t mean that someone else who may be better informed cannot interject in order to think about their decisions, but a minor doing the same thing is not something that should be tolerated whatsoever. If I knew the kid’s parental guardians I would even tell them what is going on.

peace, I might be too too high and not clearly understanding you, but struggling to understand the relevance of your points about minors.

minor's shouldn't be that deep into drug issues period, other situations are a parallel situation, and someone trying to smoke ket is well beyond minors experimenting.

i agree with you that you should interject when you are better informed, @BadBoy377 did that himself to me directly not too long ago in fact, his advice was right and I'm very grateful he did it (though didn't want to listen at the time), but how he did it was just as important as why he did it.

just because someone is going through a tough time doesn't mean that they need to say fuck it and hit everything available to excess throwing caution to the wind, we all know the limits and sometimes we don't care when we push things well beyond what we know is safe.

sometimes we hit self destruct mode, sometimes we need to be reminded, sometimes have to be talked down from the edge.

sometimes shit is more complicated than "you know better than that"....

 

[Syntherize]

no-one is disagreeing with that, even the guy who's doing it!

peace, I might be too too high and not clearly understanding you, but struggling to understand the relevance of your points about minors.

minor's shouldn't be that deep into drug issues period, other situations are a parallel situation, and someone trying to smoke ket is well beyond minors experimenting.

i agree with you that you should interject when you are better informed, @BadBoy377 did that himself to me directly not too long ago in fact, his advice was right and I'm very grateful he did it (though didn't want to listen at the time), but how he did it was just as important as why he did it.

just because someone is going through a tough time doesn't mean that they need to say fuck it and hit everything available to excess throwing caution to the wind, we all know the limits and sometimes we don't care when we push things well beyond what we know is safe.

sometimes we hit self destruct mode, sometimes we need to be reminded, sometimes have to be talked down from the edge.

sometimes shit is more complicated than "you know better than that"....

It takes one to know one and I think we’ve all hit that self destructive mode at one point or another otherwise we wouldn’t even be here talking about it everyday. Godspeed

 

[BadBoy377]

So it is really interesting how this thread has evolved...

A user is concerned about another's behaviour bringing them to ask for clarification which they get. Meanwhile said user (me) chips in just for the sake of all facts being correct for future readers. Original wayward user advises caution of said dangerous activity. Then this is where it gets interesting..

Anyone who has never dabbled in full on IM ketamine doses exceeding 100mgs truly doesn’t understand ketamine whatsoever. It sounds to me like this person just likes making stupid decisions with drugs, and we all know the end result of such behavior.

No mention of 100+mg doses. It's the second sentence that interests me most though...

It sounds to me like this person just likes making stupid decisions with drugs, and we all know the end result of such behavior.

So you work in harm reduction do you @Syntherize ? Perhaps your takeaway from this should be not to use insulting phrases like this, making assumptions that are not true. But because they are not true the likes of @placebonaut speaks up and makes excellent points there is no need or me to repeat. Thankyou.

@Syntherize I'm sure your heart is in the right place but maybe just be a bit more careful (less insulting) in your HR practice. Especially if doing it in person. Also, I'm sure an intelligent user like yourself will Eventually get the hang of entering an alphanumeric string into a blank search field. This will reveal and entry with the details you're looking for. Ah, fuck it, maybe it won't:

W102507​

A brown/white powder purchased as 'Pure H' came back as heroin containing Ketamine. It was smoked by the end user.

@Zopiclone - you're ok, just looking out for your friend. Nice one.
@BadBoy377 - I'm fine lads, don't worry about me but I appreciate the vibes. Thankyou.
@placebonaut - Really the star of the show here. Has come so far in his own journey and also able to see when situations around him are not as they should be. He speaks up and debates about them in such an articulate way. Well done.

and finally...

@Syntherize - Try harder. You'll get there I'm sure. Reign in the insults a bit. Good luck.

Right, have a great week everyone (and don't smoke K!)

BB

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

'Pure H' came back as heroin containing Ketamine. It was smoked by the end user.

I always did wonder how end user got the ideas for his music, now it is clear how he makes such truly jaw-dropping breaks & samples, he smokes Ketamine laced with Heroin, damn if it's good for him I will give it a go & we all know old Zopi is fackin' queer for anything that is Indian & if he can toss on anything "Hindu" to it more the better.

 

[placebonaut]

@BadBoy377 awe man, you've made me blush

 

[placebonaut]

I always did wonder how end user got the ideas for his music, now it is clear how he makes such truly jaw-dropping breaks & samples, he smokes Ketamine laced with Heroin, damn if it's good for him I will give it a go & we all know old Zopi is fackin' queer for anything that is Indian & if he can toss on anything "Hindu" to it more the better.

dammit, I'm developing quite a taste for for this indian stuff