soma (carisoprodol) in the eu

[Bleaney]

@Spurs_1882 I believe Carisprodol is a prescription only medication in the UK. I've also heard that UK Drs these days are very reluctant to issue said prescriptions, due to substance's high potential for abuse.

It's very easily and abundantly available online though within the UK. (Please don't PM me for sources, it's against the rules.)

@placebonaut I'm not sure if the whole pro-drug conversion to meprobamate has ever worked for me. I gather this only happens for a small fraction of the dose? So you may not even feel it?

I don't think I ever do. My best method is to take it on an empty stomach with carbonated water, and if the ever unpredictable and finicky substance is ever going to kick in and provide that lovely energised euphoric drunken feeling, I'll feel it, and feel it strongly, within about 20 minutes or so. It's an all or nothing substance for me. This phase only lasts about 30 minutes for me. I don't notice anything happening later on, so I don't think the pro-drug conversion is happening for me.

I'm on an extended break, as I seem to have somehow ruined my tolerance, despite only ordering and using it every few months. And even then I didn't use it every day, maybe a couple of times a week, at most, on average. The last couple of orders I got practically zero of the effects I was chasing. I'll probably have to leave it at least a year, maybe 18-24 months, for a total tolerance reset.

I doubt if both of my recent orders were dud / bad batches, as I used 2 different vendors, and went for the 350s, which are meant to be more reliably dosed than the 500s.

 

[placebonaut]

@placebonaut I'm not sure if the whole pro-drug conversion to meprobamate has ever worked for me. I gather this only happens for a small fraction of the dose? So you may not even feel it?

hmm I just tried to have a look and can't find any clear answer on the amount the does get converted, seems a much more complex calc than I expected, typically it seems it's as low as 25-30% from a quick search, much lower than I thought!

typical meprobamate dosage was in the order of 400-600mg back in the day so 2g of soma is in the right ball park to get the effect, though even with my tolerance I would struggle to eat that in 1 sitting, I need to redose about an hour or 2 later before I get the meprobamate feeling I love - seems things are starting to add up for me at least. I will eat soma earlier in the day (like 11am) and then redose, then I get the nice warm effects in the evening, especially when coupled with weed and a few beers.

given YMMV and CYP2C19 variance maybe this is another reason why some people find it hit or miss/doesn't work for them, you might just need to build up the levels of meprobamate in your system to get the effect, or be taking quite large doses of soma which is a bit of a problem for staying awake unless you redose a lot (not something I would ever do honest!)

interesting topic but my brain is too full of screaming children to chase this rabbit hole right now