Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 12

[silenthill]

The staff where the worst thing about our psych ward. They where all just horrible fucking people for the most part. One male nurse where cool the rest where just only what i would call cunts. At our psych ward they had everyone together pretty much. n my room there was a guy who would yell at himself all night that type of shit just drove me nuts.

Where the fuck are the psychiatrists though? Theyl have like 10 nurses on staff at night but no shrink. They have patients with very serious mental disorders basically just caged up because they dont have fuck all shrinks on staff. Most of the people who are there for schizophrenia could be treated. But so many people just fall through the cravks. I myself was left unmedicated and completely psychotic for 3 months. I had my brother trying to get me on meds but the shrink kept brushing him off saying that i had weeed psychosis.

The laziness or modern psychiatry pisses me off so much. You have so many people just wasting away in the psych ward because noone will treat them. You also have people getting ECT simply because of treatment resistant depression which basically means that SSRI's dont work. No shit they dont work for anyone. Why not try something that works like ketamine, shrooms or metthylphenidate?

yeah the screaming drove me nuts too, the walls were way too thin to drown it out. it would just be constant threats of murder and violence from them, which i know wasn't targeted at me of course but it's weird to hear "i'm gonna murder you and your family" things like that all night by schizophrenics while they punch the wall and laugh. one of them was a big dude as well, at least 6'2 and 300 pounds. i spoke to him a few times after he would get injected and he was a cool guy but his schizophrenia felt so treatment resistant it wore off quick.
as for ECT i met a few people in there who had it and one didn't work for them and the other suggested it to me. sorry i dont care about the modern improvements i'm not shocking my brain lol.
same here too though! literally 0 doctors after 8 AM and on weekends there was no doctors at all. you either wake up early and talk to them or lose your chance for the day.
poor guy with the dab pen though, his shit was good. they found out he had it and let us use it because someone snitched and he got sent to the big hospital for "inducing violence"

 

[paranoid android]

yeah the screaming drove me nuts too, the walls were way too thin to drown it out. it would just be constant threats of murder and violence from them, which i know wasn't targeted at me of course but it's weird to hear "i'm gonna murder you and your family" things like that all night by schizophrenics while they punch the wall and laugh. one of them was a big dude as well, at least 6'2 and 300 pounds. i spoke to him a few times after he would get injected and he was a cool guy but his schizophrenia felt so treatment resistant it wore off quick.
as for ECT i met a few people in there who had it and one didn't work for them and the other suggested it to me. sorry i dont care about the modern improvements i'm not shocking my brain lol.
same here too though! literally 0 doctors after 8 AM and on weekends there was no doctors at all. you either wake up early and talk to them or lose your chance for the day.
poor guy with the dab pen though, his shit was good. they found out he had it and let us use it because someone snitched and he got sent to the big hospital for "inducing violence"

The screaming and people yelling at themselves was the worst. Then youd hear people getting dragged off to solitary screaming as well. That would go on all night. I would put on my headphones and listen to my diskman. Pretty much everyone in my room was like gen z so when they saw my cd player they all wanted to see it lol. They had probably never seen a fucking before diskman before lol

My room mate was also a huge person they where a good bit over 6 feet and muscled up as well. Thankfully they turned out to be really cool. We would sit up all night smoking and drinking coke. Noone fucking slept in there because of the assholes with flashlights coming around every hour. Well that and all the light from the hallway and nursing staton. Combne that with sleeping with 5 other people and ya naturally noone slept

ECT is straight up barbarism. My friend in there had it and after one session he asked me what my name was. I was like dude weve known each other for months. But ya he didnt remember who i was or anything. ECT has no evidence of it actually working it is utter barbarism. Like if SSRI's dont work why not try ketamine? /or shrooms? Or a stimulant like ritalin. Im also a big proponent of testosterone as well. If your a guy that is. Hard to be depressed if your jacked

ECT made people look like the light went right out of their eyes. Honestly just looking at that shit gave me trauma

 

[KubiKook]

I'm not talking about Invega, but about the antipsychotics you're taking now. It's possible they could be one of the reasons why your recovery has been taking so long

Oh, yeah, it's a bit of a conundrum. When my withdrawal symptoms hit, I had complete insomnia, couldn't sleep a wink. I tried natural remedies first, melatonin, and other supplements & herbs, didn't work, then I tried Ambien & Sonata that my mom had, didn't work, then I had to seek out a psychiatrist & was prescribed Xanax & Klonipin, didn't work, then finally after exhausting all these options, the doctor prescribed Seroquel, starting at 25mgs & ending with 300, which only gave me 2 or 3 hours of sleep for months, then desperately, I was wiped out, she added Caplyta,
first 21 & then 42 mgs, which gave me 6 or 7 hours... On my own, I went back down to 100mgs of Seroquel because the higher doses didn't give me any more sleep, and that's where I'm at now.

The fear is that going off this combo, will send me back to no sleep. I'd rather be on just the Caplyta, it's a little more benign, I think, but it isn't generally prescribed for sleep. I may still try tapering off the Seroquel, but I'm surely hesitant; I can't bear going back to little or no sleep. I don't know what to do. I definitely want to be off both of these poisons. Maybe they're preventing my brain from being able to heal from the Invega withdrawal. Maybe not. Either way, I was so opposed to all psych meds for so long, after having been on Prozac & Klonipin for depression & anxiety for almost 16 years during my 20's & 30's. I had finally gotten to a place of only consuming organic healthy stuff. I guess I needed something more powerful, because I ended up with
a full-blown mania with some kind of separation from reality in 2019 & 2025. Both episodes were fairly short but caused me enough problems to land in the hospital...

The first stay I was still manic but back to reality, I put in a 72-hour notice & was released in three days. The second stay was the same, full compliance with the program, absolutely no danger to myself or others, on the contrary, I actually utilized my degrees & good people skills to help other patients, befriended staff too, but my 72-hour notice wasn't honored. I was taken to court on day 11, which by that time I was totally fine, articulated my case quite well, yet for some reason, probably liability purposes, the judge chose to mandate meds, and consequently, my soon-to-be nightmare was born ~ Invega Sustenna was prescribed. They gave me 3 days of pills, on day 4 injection 1, and day 7 (my 18th & last day on the unit) injection 2.

I'm not sure, but I don't think two injections 3 days apart is typical, maybe too much. Either way, I was free, went to pick up my cat at my mom's house, and then happily headed home. I was okay for a month or maybe a little bit more, and then I started getting crushed by all these horrible symptoms... My mom & dad were taking shifts for 4 months, spending the entire day with me, preparing meals, cleaning up, yada-yada; we just sat there day after day. I spent the nights alone. I was highly suicidal, and my family had an intervention, and sent me to Alternative to Meds Center in Arizona, where I spent a nightmarish two months. Nothing helped there. I flew back & stayed at my mom's house. Eventually tried TMS. Didn't help. Then, I crazily agreed to ECT, did it for 3 months or so. All it did was negatively affect my memory. Nothing else. And here we are, a couple of months later, with no sense of help or hope in sight... Good night, Lara. (??????????)

 

[KubiKook]

Oh, yeah, it's a bit of a conundrum. When my withdrawal symptoms hit, I had complete insomnia, couldn't sleep a wink. I tried natural remedies first, melatonin, and other supplements & herbs, didn't work, then I tried Ambien & Sonata that my mom had, didn't work, then I had to seek out a psychiatrist & was prescribed Xanax & Klonipin, didn't work, then finally after exhausting all these options, the doctor prescribed Seroquel, starting at 25mgs & ending with 300, which only gave me 2 or 3 hours of sleep for months, then desperately, I was wiped out, she added Caplyta,
first 21 & then 42 mgs, which gave me 6 or 7 hours... On my own, I went back down to 100mgs of Seroquel because the higher doses didn't give me any more sleep, and that's where I'm at now.

The fear is that going off this combo, will send me back to no sleep. I'd rather be on just the Caplyta, it's a little more benign, I think, but it isn't generally prescribed for sleep. I may still try tapering off the Seroquel, but I'm surely hesitant; I can't bear going back to little or no sleep. I don't know what to do. I definitely want to be off both of these poisons. Maybe they're preventing my brain from being able to heal from the Invega withdrawal. Maybe not. Either way, I was so opposed to all psych meds for so long, after having been on Prozac & Klonipin for depression & anxiety for almost 16 years during my 20's & 30's. I had finally gotten to a place of only consuming organic healthy stuff. I guess I needed something more powerful, because I ended up with
a full-blown mania with some kind of separation from reality in 2019 & 2025. Both episodes were fairly short but caused me enough problems to land in the hospital...

The first stay I was still manic but back to reality, I put in a 72-hour notice & was released in three days. The second stay was the same, full compliance with the program, absolutely no danger to myself or others, on the contrary, I actually utilized my degrees & good people skills to help other patients, befriended staff too, but my 72-hour notice wasn't honored. I was taken to court on day 11, which by that time I was totally fine, articulated my case quite well, yet for some reason, probably liability purposes, the judge chose to mandate meds, and consequently, my soon-to-be nightmare was born ~ Invega Sustenna was prescribed. They gave me 3 days of pills, on day 4 injection 1, and day 7 (my 18th & last day on the unit) injection 2.

I'm not sure, but I don't think two injections 3 days apart is typical, maybe too much. Either way, I was free, went to pick up my cat at my mom's house, and then happily headed home. I was okay for a month or maybe a little bit more, and then I started getting crushed by all these horrible symptoms... My mom & dad were taking shifts for 4 months, spending the entire day with me, preparing meals, cleaning up, yada-yada; we just sat there day after day. I spent the nights alone. I was highly suicidal, and my family had an intervention, and sent me to Alternative to Meds Center in Arizona, where I spent a nightmarish two months. Nothing helped there. I flew back & stayed at my mom's house. Eventually tried TMS. Didn't help. Then, I crazily agreed to ECT, did it for 3 months or so. All it did was negatively affect my memory. Nothing else. And here we are, a couple of months later, with no sense of help or hope in sight...

Good night, Lara. P.S. Any thoughts?

 

[paranoid android]

Oh, yeah, it's a bit of a conundrum. When my withdrawal symptoms hit, I had complete insomnia, couldn't sleep a wink. I tried natural remedies first, melatonin, and other supplements & herbs, didn't work, then I tried Ambien & Sonata that my mom had, didn't work, then I had to seek out a psychiatrist & was prescribed Xanax & Klonipin, didn't work, then finally after exhausting all these options, the doctor prescribed Seroquel, starting at 25mgs & ending with 300, which only gave me 2 or 3 hours of sleep for months, then desperately, I was wiped out, she added Caplyta,
first 21 & then 42 mgs, which gave me 6 or 7 hours... On my own, I went back down to 100mgs of Seroquel because the higher doses didn't give me any more sleep, and that's where I'm at now.

The fear is that going off this combo, will send me back to no sleep. I'd rather be on just the Caplyta, it's a little more benign, I think, but it isn't generally prescribed for sleep. I may still try tapering off the Seroquel, but I'm surely hesitant; I can't bear going back to little or no sleep. I don't know what to do. I definitely want to be off both of these poisons. Maybe they're preventing my brain from being able to heal from the Invega withdrawal. Maybe not. Either way, I was so opposed to all psych meds for so long, after having been on Prozac & Klonipin for depression & anxiety for almost 16 years during my 20's & 30's. I had finally gotten to a place of only consuming organic healthy stuff. I guess I needed something more powerful, because I ended up with
a full-blown mania with some kind of separation from reality in 2019 & 2025. Both episodes were fairly short but caused me enough problems to land in the hospital...

The first stay I was still manic but back to reality, I put in a 72-hour notice & was released in three days. The second stay was the same, full compliance with the program, absolutely no danger to myself or others, on the contrary, I actually utilized my degrees & good people skills to help other patients, befriended staff too, but my 72-hour notice wasn't honored. I was taken to court on day 11, which by that time I was totally fine, articulated my case quite well, yet for some reason, probably liability purposes, the judge chose to mandate meds, and consequently, my soon-to-be nightmare was born ~ Invega Sustenna was prescribed. They gave me 3 days of pills, on day 4 injection 1, and day 7 (my 18th & last day on the unit) injection 2.

I'm not sure, but I don't think two injections 3 days apart is typical, maybe too much. Either way, I was free, went to pick up my cat at my mom's house, and then happily headed home. I was okay for a month or maybe a little bit more, and then I started getting crushed by all these horrible symptoms... My mom & dad were taking shifts for 4 months, spending the entire day with me, preparing meals, cleaning up, yada-yada; we just sat there day after day. I spent the nights alone. I was highly suicidal, and my family had an intervention, and sent me to Alternative to Meds Center in Arizona, where I spent a nightmarish two months. Nothing helped there. I flew back & stayed at my mom's house. Eventually tried TMS. Didn't help. Then, I crazily agreed to ECT, did it for 3 months or so. All it did was negatively affect my memory. Nothing else. And here we are, a couple of months later, with no sense of help or hope in sight... Good night, Lara. (??????????)

Dude i doubt you are getting these symptoms from invega shots. You had ECT and holy shit i am surprsed you can even type after that. No wonder your feeling abit fucked

What symptoms are you getting?

 

[KubiKook]

Dude i doubt you are getting these symptoms from invega shots. You had ECT and holy shit i am surprsed you can even type after that. No wonder your feeling abit fucked

What symptoms are you getting?

Nah, I was f**ked way before the ECT. That was desperation because of what happened from the fallout from Invega. I know that because nothing has abated since day one of my symptoms.
I know myself well, explored the depths of my heart, soul & mind, both through many-many years of study as well as experiential work & play, yada-yada. You can doubt all you want but this ain't ECT or any of the other treatments, I promise you. Maybe Seroquel & Caplyta are exacerbating the anhedonia, although it's been this severe since the start of this mess.

I was a very conscious & creative & compassionate dude, was highly competent & capable, despite many down times, I was still able to maintain myself & my life very well. The Invega & subsequent withdrawal changed everything. I'm me but not me anymore. I wrote details of my symptoms elsewhere on this site. I'm not gonna get into that in detail again. Mainly, I'm still able to communicate well, but I'm emotionless & I can't engage with or experience life in the same way anymore... Many activities are troubling & unappealing. I can't really connect to anything.

I'm mainly a 'tortured' memory of the man I used to be. I'm barely sustainable or viable. This can't continue indefinitely. Yeah, I can't fathom killing myself & can't fathom not killing myself... ???

 

[KubiKook]

Nah, I was f**ked way before the ECT. That was desperation because of what happened from the fallout from Invega. I know that because nothing has abated since day one of my symptoms.
I know myself well, explored the depths of my heart, soul & mind, both through many-many years of study as well as experiential work & play, yada-yada. You can doubt all you want but this ain't ECT or any of the other treatments, I promise you. Maybe Seroquel & Caplyta are exacerbating the anhedonia, although it's been this severe since the start of this mess.

I was a very conscious & creative & compassionate dude, was highly competent & capable, despite many down times, I was still able to maintain myself & my life very well. The Invega & subsequent withdrawal changed everything. I'm me but not me anymore. I wrote details of my symptoms elsewhere on this site. I'm not gonna get into that in detail again. Mainly, I'm still able to communicate well, but I'm emotionless & I can't engage with or experience life in the same way anymore... Many activities are troubling & unappealing. I can't really connect to anything.

I'm mainly a 'tortured' memory of the man I used to be. I'm barely sustainable or viable. This can't continue indefinitely. Yeah, I can't fathom killing myself & can't fathom not killing myself... Uhhh, urrr...