Miscellaneous What are your favorite psychedelics?

[doubledog]

Mescaline and psilohuasca for me.

 

[donotdothis]

periglandula

 

[Khacorrat]

I have 50+ experienced with N-benzylated phenethylamines at this point, and I absolutely adore them. I think they're unnecessarily dunked on by the psychedelic community at large, and they are undoubtedly the most visual things I've ever touched, I'd argue their visual qualities are more interesting than full DMT breakthroughs even since they leave you awake, and the visuals respond to the world around you.

Yeah, I remembered reading some of your posts about NBOME/NBOH and they are clearly appealing!
For my part I only had one experience with 25I-NBOME but as you describe it, I remember it as the most visual experience I had actually. With my friend we had to take the subway and roam through Brussels at night and neither of us were familiar with the city! To this day I still remember the moat intense and euphoric visual I had on a psychedelic.

WhenI restarted to be interested by the fascinating psychedelic world I thought about finding some. But I am still not sure about the risks of this products. I remember in 2013-2014 in EU everybody tells you to be aware of NBOME but I saw that they made their comeback recently on some markets, but without studies I'm not sure about partaking it again

 

[foodcrisis]

i've taken what was probably lsd several times, eth-lad, al-lad, ald-52, 1p-lsd, 5meo-dmt orally and also mushrooms

i like eth-lad the best probably... all of them are fine though except 5meo-dmt. didn't like it alone at all. took it with a dose of 1p-lsd one time and it was a strong cool visual trip, but i was drained afterward. if i take any of the other stuff, i don't feel bad afterward. 5meo-dmt doesn't make me feel good even with out combing it with anything, i was super drained from not even a very high dose of 1p and just a finger tip worth of 5meo-dmt.

also have taken salvia and would kind of like to smoke some dmt to compare them stronger shorter lasting psychedelics. it doesn't really matter to me from what i read of trip reports if i get to try smoking dmt. i read similar experiences. i imagine there is a different body high.

 

[lexxbell]

personally good ole fashioned LSD probably takes the cake for my favorite psychedelic. i much prefer it to mushrooms or DMT. i only wish it didn’t last quite as long, or at least that i could sleep sooner afterwards.

2C-B rivals LSD for the top spot, feel like it’s a close second. love that 2C-B doesn’t quite last as long and you don’t build the immediate tolerance like you do to acid. i like starting with 20-30mg orally then doing small bumps during the trip. i also like that it’s not as mentally heavy/confusing/trippy as acid and is a little more empathogenic. 2C-B is just an easier trip, and while i love the emotional breakthroughs that LSD can give me, sometimes i just wanna trip without that. i’ve had times where ive done enough 2C-B to be completely blinded by visuals and still be much more mentally grounded.

so LSD and 2C-B take the cake for me, but the tryptamine family will always have a special place in my heart, especially DMT. one of my favorite combos i’ve ever done is LSD and 2C-B together, smoking DMT on the peak.

 

[Esperighanto]

i’ve had times where ive done enough 2C-B to be completely blinded by visuals and still be much more mentally grounded.

I've found that the points where 2C-B is pushed super far (75-100mg intranasally) you can't really control anything as you're shown visions and shit, but there is still a degree of clarity that super high doses of LSD lacks, it's fascinating how much this characteristic of cognitive clarity is shared between peoples' 2C-B experiences.

LSD and 2C-B together, smoking DMT on the peak.

This is a classic banger combo, I always preloaded on 2C-B ORALLY, took the LSD a few hours into that oral dose of 2C-B, then 3-6 hours after the LSD hits I always did another bump or two of 2C-B. By then, I would begin loading the dab nail with DMT. I always used a nail with a raised core so I could baby the temperature really and sort of micromanage it with careful blowtorch application and a super thick quartz bottom on the dab nail. I always wished there was a term that had a good mouthfeel and made sense for the intersection of LSD, 2C-B and DMT, but slang rarely fits well into the world of drugs it seems.

psilohuasca

I love seeing nontraditional huasca brews mentioned on this forum, psilohuasca is easily one of the most mysterious and intriguing experiences I have ever pharmacologically induced. What sorts of therapeutic uses, and what sets/settings have you found to fit psilohuasca best for you?

periglandula

As in christmasvine? If so you're the only other person I've heard of using it on here besides myself. What did you think of it?

 

[lexxbell]

I've found that the points where 2C-B is pushed super far (75-100mg intranasally) you can't really control anything as you're shown visions and shit, but there is still a degree of clarity that super high doses of LSD lacks, it's fascinating how much this characteristic of cognitive clarity is shared between peoples' 2C-B experiences.

This is a classic banger combo, I always preloaded on 2C-B ORALLY, took the LSD a few hours into that oral dose of 2C-B, then 3-6 hours after the LSD hits I always did another bump or two of 2C-B. By then, I would begin loading the dab nail with DMT. I always used a nail with a raised core so I could baby the temperature really and sort of micromanage it with careful blowtorch application and a super thick quartz bottom on the dab nail. I always wished there was a term that had a good mouthfeel and made sense for the intersection of LSD, 2C-B and DMT, but slang rarely fits well into the world of drugs it seems.

oh 100% it’s super interesting how you can be so out of control while still remaining pretty lucid. while i’m more able to stay pretty grounded on psyches than most people ik irl, i’ve only known one person who couldn’t handle the mental bit of 2C-B (tho she just shouldn’t have been tripping at all.)

no idea what you’d even call that 2C-LSDMT combo, outside of amazing lmao. i like to dose my LSD first and then 2C-B like a candy flip, taking bumps as desired. only done it a few of times but the visuals alone are astounding. smoking DMT on the peak had me seeing in 4D, sitting there slack jawed and wide eyed at my friends who became living tesseracts lol.

tbh i haven’t found a drug that 2C-B doesn’t pair well with. it’s like a enhancement to anything you take it with. a nexus flip is one of my favorite combos, doing 2C-B at the end of an MDMA roll. it’s such a smooth, beautiful experience. the love and empathogenic euphoria perfectly melting into a trippy, wavy comedown. it makes the MDMA comedown so much smoother and comfortable imo. sex on that combo is incredible too

 

[Rabbit]

Old school (back when it was legit) lean always hit me this way, it's fascinating how some opioids can induce visuals. I've always wondered if it's a little tinge of kappa opioid action going on, like a microdose of salvia, as salvia's visuals are not far off from these imo.

I had access to a wide variety of opioid combination syrups over the years. I once got a hold of a combination syrup that contained a high dose of hydrocodone combined with scopolamine. Both IR. I don't think it has been made since the late 1980s or early 1990s. I snatched that bottle out of a medicine cabinet that had tons of opioid goodies in it that had been stored up for years along with sampler bottles of things like lyrica. The person they were prescribed to was allergic to codeine so they'd gotten all sorts of non-codeine opioid odd-ball combination syrups from a local compounding pharmacy over the years. They never took them for longer than a couple of days and would always get a new prescription the next year when they had coughing fits. So by the time I stumbled upon that cabinet it was filled with tons of goodies some of them 20+ years expired.

I got so much lovely Tussinex (hydrocodone ER that tasted like sugar) out of that cabinet over the years.

Anyway, that hydrocodone+scopolamine bottle was wild. I already had a heavy opioid tolerance when I stumbled upon it. I knew scopolamine on its own wouldn't be very pleasant but I figured it'd be no big deal. I was wrong. I think a standard dose out of that bottle hydrocodone wise was 10mg. I took 40-50mg and got a mega dose of scopolamine along with it of course.

I ended up going into a heavy nod that rivaled a pure morphine nod. I saw real visions in those nods. I'd open my eyes and could still see them for a few moments until they'd vanish out of my sight like smoke or fog. It was really cool. The scopolamine was not nearly as unpleasant as I figured it would be. I enjoyed that bottle very much and am sad I didn't save some of it. Since I've never seen a combination like that ever again.

Nothing I ever got out of that cabinet had anything like Guaifenesin in it. It was always a potent opioid and maybe something like scopolamine in combination. Typically, the older bottles were IR opioids plus something like scopolamine and the newer bottles were stuff like ER hydrocodone. There were even a couple of bottles of extended release oxycodone and oxymorphone in some of the bottles. Stuff I've never seen before even in books. I guess they were custom made by the local pharmacy because even my large reference books never mentioned them and I was never able to find any information about them on the internet.

The person that was getting them had very unique medical history. Like I said they couldn't tolerate codeine and they couldn't take stuff like gauifenesin either. Along with a large list of other common first line drugs and OTC formulations. So they got all sorts of amazing stuff and they rarely took any of it. They'd just take a dose and put the bottle away. Then the next time they needed something the doctor would prescribe them another massive bottle which they barely touched. So by the time I came along there was so much crap stored in that cabinet that I could swipe a bottle every month for years and it would never be missed. Even when some was noticed missing they assumed it was another family member that had been caught in the past forging prescriptions for Codeine in that person's name. Which is how she got caught. The pharmacy flagged it because that person was known to be allergic and she ended up doing time for forging prescriptions. She was a heavy Codeine addict and maintained a habit for years buying it legally OTC when that was still possible and later by forging prescriptions using pads she'd stolen (she worked at a business that printed them).

Anyway, opioids can be very lovely especially in combination with certain other substances. I think a morphine+datura combo would probably be a good time. Provided you were careful with the dosing. Opium and most of the derived substances like morphine/heroin can already produce visions on their own. But when you add a little psychedelic, disso or deliriant to the mix it can take those already realistic dreams to an entirely new level. The only issue is that's one of the first effects that goes away once you build a tolerance and getting there with a tolerance becomes a thin line between a deep nod and death once you're actively addicted to them. But there is nothing better than opioids for taking the edge off the usual substances that produce visions.

As far as Gabapentin and Lyrica I've been singing the praises for both of them here for a long time. I think most people aren't away that they can produce amazing CEVs because you have to follow a strict dosing regim to obtain that level with them. The line between passing out for 12 hours and obtaining that state is very thin. Those GABA drugs also come with some risks of their own. People claim they're safer than other substances but you can easily cause seizures if you attempt to dose them high enough to obtain the types of expereinces I chase with them.

I discovered those effects myself by having access to that same cabinet of fun. There were like 50 sample bottles with 10-15 tablets of lyrica in them. I thought they were useless because I never heard anyone talk about them before and that same cabinet contained so many opioids and benzos (and some barbs). But one day I got curious and swiped a few of the bottles to try. It didn't take me long to figure out that they were really fucking fun and even better when used in combination with the other stuff I was already taking (they pair amazingly well with opioids, benzos, and weed). So they got added into my poly-abuse mix quickly.

For many years I didn't have to bother buying drugs at all. I had an all access cabinet of goodies for free. The only thing I needed was a bag of weed to go along with them. Later on when I started developing a higher tolerance and had swiped enough out of that cabinet to be noticed I stopped grabbing stuff out of there for awhile. But if I ever got broke I could always pay it a visit and get high for free for a week or two without anyone noticing. I just had to be careful not to take too much at once. But they were always adding new stock so that was pretty easy to do. It isn't as well stocked today and I don't live there anymore. But any time I visit I take a peek because I'm an addict and the old cabinet is as well stocked as it ever was.

I had other sources for some experimental stuff back in the day as well. I ran around with these two crazy brothers that loved to rob pharmacies. They'd always be showing up with trash bags full of shit and would give you handfuls of stuff for free. First two people I met that were heavy into using pharma drugs. Then we knew these two gay brothers that always had access to experimental/new pharma drugs. No idea where they got them from but they were always coming around and giving away samples. They were the only people I ever got those triangle xanax pills from. I only ever saw them in a reference book I had and that one time from them. Never seen them prescribed to anyone. I think they were something crazy like 3mg doses IIRC. They might have even been higher than that and ERs but I forget now.

There are a lot of wacky highly visual drugs on the pharma market most people aren't aware of. Many of them are rare now and aren't openly prescribed as much any more. But if you have access to an old cabinet with stuff in it from the 60s-80s you can still stumble upon them now and again. Stuff like placidyl.

 

[doubledog]

I love seeing nontraditional huasca brews mentioned on this forum, psilohuasca is easily one of the most mysterious and intriguing experiences I have ever pharmacologically induced. What sorts of therapeutic uses, and what sets/settings have you found to fit psilohuasca best for you?

I am quite conservative user here, I need dedicated space and time, few days of simple dieta and somebody who can withstand the ordeal with me.
It gives me much needed insight into my life and also seems to support my adaptability.

 

[petateom]

For me

Lysergamides > Phenyletilamines > Tryptamines

Interestingly with tryptamines I got some of my most euphoric trips, but I get weird side effects like brainzaps, dizzyness or feeling sick that I don't get with others. AMT is kinda cool, but a different thing.

From lysergamides is hard to choose, I've tried a bunch of them, I really loved eth-lad. Heroic dosage of al-lad is crazy visual (600ug). Very strong machinescapes vision with that. And lsd and it's prodrugs, which are amazing on it's own ofc.

 

[Didgital]

It's like asking what is my fav fruit. It changes depending on the day.
Some favs:

2C-D, 2C-B, Mescaline, TMA-2
5-meo-DMT, 5-Meo-MIPT, 4-HO-MET, MET
AL-LAD, LSD, ETH-LAD

 

[xdrc]

It's like asking what is my fav fruit. It changes depending on the day.
Some favs:

2C-D, 2C-B, Mescaline, TMA-2
5-meo-DMT, 5-Meo-MIPT, 4-HO-MET, MET
AL-LAD, LSD, ETH-LAD

My one experience with TMA-2 was quite interesting, weirdly dissociating, felt very deep. It was shortly after my 25E-NBOH disaster so it turned difficult when I was thrown into that kind of experience again (feeling harmful body signals and thinking I was in danger). I should repeat it some time. What did you think of it?

 

[Didgital]

It felt like a more recreational mescaline. Still deep but... more fun, it has that 2,4,5 kind of feeling, so like a cross of mescaline and 2C-X.

I actually find mescaline to be a bit disassociating. I often ask myself, where am I, who am I, what am I, as I slowly dissolve and reemerge.

TMA-2, I get the same sort of feelings without the dreamy aspect.

Don't get me wrong I love mescaline, I just prefer TMA-2 out of the 2. It's one of the few psychedelic amphetamines that I enjoy. DOx to me are worth trying but not like something I can take more than a few times.

 

[Khacorrat]

Your description of TMA-2 makes it really appealing. I don't have the opportunity to try mescaline, or even any psychedelic amphetamine so far, but this one sounds interesting since I first read the PIKHAL entry about it.
And your description really made me want to try it!

 

[xdrc]

I know TMA-2 is often compared to mescaline, but to me, they couldn't have been further apart. I don't have much experience with either though. TMA-2 was also distinct from any 2C-x I tried. Very weird stuff. Should try again, but I don't like how it is uncannily close to oxidopamine if it were to be entirely demethylated to 2,4,6-trihydroxyamphetamine (unlikely but still). 2C-D I'm a bit weary of too, as its used in high dosages and the related putative trace DOM metabolite 2,5-dihydroxy-4-methylamphetamine was shown to be similarly neurotoxic. Not weary enough to not use it though