Esoteric Datura is an acid-like trip, amazing and wondrous

[paranoid android]

I also have some extreme stories with datura.
You need be very careful with the dose, if you want to have any sort of useful experience.

It's quite irony that datura is used exactly by the people who should absolutely not use it at all.
Anyway, only users should be really good prepared people with lot of information and very specific goals.

I dont think theres anything to gain from deliriants. I had psychosis once time (non drug induced) and imo it almost perfectly mirrored deliriant intoxication. Some things are perhaps best left unseen

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

I dont think theres anything to gain from deliriants. I had psychosis once time (non drug induced) and imo it almost perfectly mirrored deliriant intoxication. Some things are perhaps best left unseen

they sure make for some of the most interesting reading of trip reports.

but delriants and duster are the only types of drugs i’ve never even tried and all other types i’ve used heavily when i was younger when it was about curiosity.

but as they say, curiosity killed the cat and it took some of my 9 lives so i view drugs purely as coping tools these days. so scared of shit at this point to be sampling highs for adventure. and there came a point where it wasn’t novel anymore either.

i do love hearing datura reports tho

 

[paranoid android]

they sure make for some of the most interesting reading of trip reports.

but delriants and duster are the only types of drugs i’ve never even tried and all other types i’ve used heavily when i was younger when it was about curiosity.

but as they say, curiosity killed the cat and it took some of my 9 lives so i view drugs purely as coping tools these days. so scared of shit at this point to be sampling highs for adventure. and there came a point where it wasn’t novel anymore either.

i do love hearing datura reports tho

Datura stories are indeed the best. Some are truely fucking terrifying. I dont actually remember much about dramamine but it felt very psychosis like. This makes sense as the new antipsychotic cobenfy targets the muscarinic receptors

Atleast i can say i took dramamine before the modern internet existed. I couldnt look up what will 25 fucking dramamine do to me? No i just read may cause drowsiness so i was kike awesome must be like valium. No no it was not at all like valium very unfortunately. I saw the spiders which seems to be a dramamine specific thing. People on benadryl seem to see the hatman not spders

 

[doubledog]

I dont think theres anything to gain from deliriants. I had psychosis once time (non drug induced) and imo it almost perfectly mirrored deliriant intoxication. Some things are perhaps best left unseen

There really is possibility to gain something useful from Datura, but it's very difficult and not worth the effort and risk imo.

i do love hearing datura reports

Really? Most people find them scary.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

People on benadryl seem to see the hatman not spders

i had never heard of the hat man and just spent some time researching. wtf?

it’s really odd how each hallucinogenic or stimulant drug seems to have some recurring hallucination entity.



like i wonder if it’s a result of our societal programming then taking the drug…..or if you gave X drug to someone raised in the isolated jungle tribe of sentinel island are they going to have the same hallucinations everyone in western society does?

 

[Chaurus]

It is the least pleasant and recreational substance I've ever consumed.

Datura stramonium was not fun, but neither was it hell. And it was interesting.

I will try not to go as deep as I went last time, a quarter century ago.

But do not recommended. Too dangerous for the fun you will likely not be having.

 

[doubledog]

Yes, it's not pleasant, but it could be interesting.
Proper dose is important, do not eat too much of it.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

tell us about datura combos.

i would love to hear about some lunatic combining the shit with pcp or acid.

DXM sigma plateau + datura….i would love to hear it.

probably would kill someone.

 

[iom]

I had a friend who experimented with datura over a an extended period of time, despite my strong warnings. He was living in south west Colorado at the time, and he said he couldn't help but be curious because it grows everywhere there. He did act very conservatively, and I don't know that he ever took enough for full-on hallucinations. I still found it odd that he had any interest in it at all.

And then I put something together. Shortly before these experiments, he had been on the SSRI paroxetine for some months. He decided it wasn't doing anything for him, and he stopped taking it. It turns out that paroxetine has strong anti-cholinergic effects, so it's possible that taking small amounts of datura were helping him manage some of the withdraw. He didn't know any of this until I told him, so If he "meant" to do it, it was by an entirely intuitive process. Sad to say, his moderate approach to datura didn't extend to his use of other drugs. His cannabis habit was very bad for his bank account, but the thing that really fucked him up and led him to quit all drugs and do AA/NA was alcohol.

 

[pupnik]

what happened to @red22 ?
did he accidentally step on an ant while tripping on datura?

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Mods should remove these kinds of posts..

Not judging but this is the opposite of HR.

 

[4DQSAR]

I once wore a scopolamine patch for food poissining, took some dramamine with it then smoked some northern lights. Once the weed started working i couldnt tell if i was thinking something or actually saying it. Was not fun at all i took a clonaz and went and lied down.

So you consumed an anticholinergic on top of another anticholinergic? Because yes, those first-generation antihistamines are also anticholinergics...

I'm quite surprised you weren't explicitly warned as it's not really a secret.

The toxidrome is '"Mad as a hatter, blind as a bat, red as a beet, hot as a hare, and dry as a bone.'

Glad you survived and hopefully know better if there is a next time.

 

[paranoid android]

So you consumed an anticholinergic on top of another anticholinergic? Because yes, those first-generation antihistamines are also anticholinergics...

I'm quite surprised you weren't explicitly warned as it's not really a secret.

The toxidrome is '"Mad as a hatter, blind as a bat, red as a beet, hot as a hare, and dry as a bone.'

Glad you survived and hopefully know better if there is a next time.

I knew better but was so sick with food poisoning that i didnt really care

 

[bigjackaal96]

ITT : Folk who ignore what DXM at 600mg or Ketamine at high doses + a Stimulant can do if you don't K-hole. Done high dose Nitrous at the Dentist my claim Dissos are Postmodern Psychdelic's still stands.

What about Muscimol?, Seen reports It can rival Datura while paradoxiclly feeling more clear headed & euphoric in a Shroom/MDMA like manner.

 

[Esperighanto]

tell us about datura combos.

i would love to hear about some lunatic combining the shit with pcp or acid.

DXM sigma plateau + datura….i would love to hear it.

probably would kill someone.

Yeah this is definitely some dangerous shit the whole sigma plat + datura thing, but I mean, I have mixed datura with 25mg of intranasal DOM, 15mg of oral miprocin, 22.5mg of intranasal methamphetamine, a shockingly heady amount of etizolam+phenazolam dipped cigarettes, intranasal buspirone as well as oral buspirone, oral cyclobenzaprine, bupropion, caffeine, THC/HHC, smoked paper that had been loaded up with MDMB-4en-PINACA, 5F-ADB (aka MDMB-5F-PINACA), gabapentin, I'm sure a good handful of other things I'm overlooking right now. I've yet to have a bad time from slathering my wrists and temples in this ointment and feeling that warmth soak into my bloodstream, my fiance has enjoyed it so far too. I've actually killed a pretty shocking amount of this ointment in a short period of time, tbh.

Mods should remove these kinds of posts..

Not judging but this is the opposite of HR.

So, the reason I haven't removed this post is actually that I've recently been experimenting with a 5mg/mL datura ointment and have found it to be a fascinating and useful tool. Toxicity is likely low in this range, probably not worse than using 25X-NBXX's I would think but I can't be quite certain. I've found datura, when used in a safe dosage range, to be one of the most interesting entheogens I've touched, honestly. I used to scoff at the thought of ever even trying it, but this is on par with the "flying ointment" used in European witchcraft and I wanted to see what the ancestors were up to, frankly. It's warm, pro-sexual, pro-social, fantastic for catalyzing emotional catharsis, the music enhancement even beats 2C-B+Ketamine+Methamphetamine for me.

 

[red22]

Do you think something about transdermal absorption is superior?

 

[Esperighanto]

Do you think something about transdermal absorption is superior?

I haven't received many effects from oral administration yet, but I am already scheming to grow a variety of datura and datura-adjacent plants to experiment with so I'll have further info a few years from now for sure!

Edit: So I have only been using transdermal so far but I have much to explore still in this whole sphere of things.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

Yeah this is definitely some dangerous shit the whole sigma plat + datura thing, but I mean, I have mixed datura with 25mg of intranasal DOM, 15mg of oral miprocin, 22.5mg of intranasal methamphetamine, a shockingly heady amount of etizolam+phenazolam dipped cigarettes, intranasal buspirone as well as oral buspirone, oral cyclobenzaprine, bupropion, caffeine, THC/HHC, smoked paper that had been loaded up with MDMB-4en-PINACA, 5F-ADB (aka MDMB-5F-PINACA), gabapentin, I'm sure a good handful of other things I'm overlooking right now. I've yet to have a bad time from slathering my wrists and temples in this ointment and feeling that warmth soak into my bloodstream, my fiance has enjoyed it so far too. I've actually killed a pretty shocking amount of this ointment in a short period of time, tbh.

So, the reason I haven't removed this post is actually that I've recently been experimenting with a 5mg/mL datura ointment and have found it to be a fascinating and useful tool. Toxicity is likely low in this range, probably not worse than using 25X-NBXX's I would think but I can't be quite certain. I've found datura, when used in a safe dosage range, to be one of the most interesting entheogens I've touched, honestly. I used to scoff at the thought of ever even trying it, but this is on par with the "flying ointment" used in European witchcraft and I wanted to see what the ancestors were up to, frankly. It's warm, pro-sexual, pro-social, fantastic for catalyzing emotional catharsis, the music enhancement even beats 2C-B+Ketamine+Methamphetamine for me.

so do you have a trip report of the datura dom combo or can you describe it?

i wonder if there’s a combo where it would take all the fear and unpleasantness away from the datura trip and let you only experience the hallucinogenic effects. maybe datura + benzos + heroin + ketamine would smooth it out?

 

[doubledog]

i wonder if there’s a combo where it would take all the fear and unpleasantness away from the datura trip and let you only experience the hallucinogenic effects. maybe datura + benzos + heroin + ketamine would smooth it out?

Opiates are the best admixture to tropane alkaloids. They cancel or substantially diminish fear, anxiety and confusion. They also have strong synergy when used combined.
Belladona+opium is an ancient mix used from antiquity. Its modern usage was in form of Twilight sleep.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Opiates are the best admixture to tropane alkaloids. They cancel or substantially diminish fear, anxiety and confusion. They also have strong synergy when used combined.
Belladona+opium is an ancient mix used from antiquity. Its modern usage was in form of Twilight sleep.

Have you read Liber 420?
Its a book about the esoteric history of cannabis.

It contains many ancient recipes for various polydrug combinations used in history.
Opium and some form of Datura is a common additive in these potions.