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Esoteric Datura is an acid-like trip, amazing and wondrous

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"Once you get the balance right, you can have pure hallucinatory, visionary experiences or just a killer acid-like trip, amazing and wondrous."


Misinformation, misunderstanding, ignorance around datura
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Hi Friends, my first post.

I want to clear up a lot of pitiful misinformation and misunderstanding about datura.
The first and overwhelmingly important thing about datura is this:

If you are not at least vegetarian (better still, vegan), then you deserve whatever you get. If you have the karma of killing, destroying life, and expect to get a good trip off this most spiritual and transcendent substance, then you deserve what is coming your way. That's what makes people who say "You should make an ointment containing pig lard" so pitiful and sad and laughable.

If you are vegetarian/vegan, you are spiritually inclined, you can handle your pot, LSD, shrooms and ecstasy, and you have a good friend who knows a thing or two about the universe, you are perfectly ready for the most easily-obtainable, legal, bountiful, cheapest, and life-affirming, transcendent, amazing, superb, enlightening, indescribable experiences available to humankind.

Whenever you read about datura, people invariably go on at length about the dangers, the hopitalisations, the "I've done 5000 acids trips but never wanna touch that stuff". This is all par for the course for average, meat-eating, non-spiritual, non-seeking, normal people.

If you are looking for the next level, the ultimate experience, and you have purified your karmic lifeforce by not killing and destroying life for a few years, have mastered acid and the like, and have a few good friends the same, then you have no limits to your life's fulfillment with the aid of this most sacred and holy plant.

As for ways of taking it, the most simply and effective way is simply munch on a fresh flower. It does not taste particularly bad, and this way you can easily monitor your dosage. Take literally a few small nibbles every now and then - the beauty of this method is, it is pretty hard to overdose - no-one wants to take a huge bite of a fresh flower - it's counterintuitive and physically difficult, as opposed to, say, gulping down a cup of tea or swallowing seeds.

The drug is free, it is legal, it is many times more brilliant than LSD, it is transcendent.

But if you hope to get any of these positive effects whilst still having the karma of killing and destroying life, you quite simply deserve whatever your karma throws at you.

This is the worst misunderstanding about drugs, I believe; people don't seem to realise that they are so highly subjective in respect of the user's state of karmic purity or impurity. If you have purified your self (a careful 24 or 48 hour fast, with just fresh juice and water is ideal), & have been spiritually inclined and vegetarian (or better, vegan) for at least a year, then you are well on the way to a beatific experience. Otherwise, you get what you deserve.

Not many people know or acknowledge any of this, even though it is the utter truth. Datura is, despite being by far and away the most potent psychoactive drug known to humankind, completely legal and exceedingly easy to acquire more than you could ever possibly need. The irony of this is so profound that it makes you laugh out loud and pity the deluded, lost, pitiful authorities who have no idea about anything whatsoever. And if you are the right person for it, then (apart from weed), you will never, ever, ever need any other psychoactive drug.

I am quite aware that zillions of people will take offense at this and say that there is nothing wrong with destroying life, that there is no such thing as karma, and it makes no difference whether you kill animals or not in regard to your experience on drugs. But even though they say so, they are wrong. I know. I took acid trips as a meat eater, and at best had a buzzy time. At worst, had an horrific time with evil hallucinations, self-mutilation thoughts - literally the desire for self-disembowelment, putting a knife to my stomach and slashing out the innards - quite literally hellish experiences. After becoming vegan, they were incredible. After moving on to datura, there is utterly no comparison whatsoever.

I can only urge all of you to give up killing and destroying life, and reap the rewards of blissful experience.
In terms of the experience itself, it can range from a mild acid trip, without hallucination, to a strong acid trip, with some hallucination, to a full-blown hallucinatory experience. Granted, it is easy to tip over the edge into disassociativeness and lose the grip on reality, which is the severely unwanted experience. This may happen (has to me) the first time, but as long as you are sensible with the dosage, are not out wandering the streets, have someone else there, then the worst that can happen is you talk to your TV as if it were a real person, or your take all your clothes off and wake up naked. As long as you're at home, and don't let yourself go to a club or wander down the street, then you are fine.

In any event, this should only happen one time. After it does, you never want it to happen again, and will be infinitely more careful with dosage. Furthermore, as with any drug or substance, the body and mind get used to it. After the first time, you are prepared for the shock; your brain is steeled for it. Most likely, the next time you took it, you wouldn't even have any hallucination whatsoever because you are so wary of tipping over like last time.

Once you get the balance right, you can have pure hallucinatory, visionary experiences or just a killer acid-like trip, amazing and wondrous.

But unless you are free of the karma of killing and destroying life, you are just wasting your time and if you end up crazy, in hospital or dead, then it's simply your own fault.
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@magicking, 2013-03-16


"On a brighter note, I also had a glorious trip - where I was looking at the world. There was complete darkness around me, and I could see the entire globe, spinning before me - as if I was viewing it from space. I saw giant rainbows, and doves, circling the world. Gorgeous technicolour patterns flowed from certain points of the darkness. I can't explain how incredible it was... It felt like another dimension."

@cosmicfrequency 20-05-2009 https://www.bluelight.org/community/posts/7161235


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A collect of paintings to celebrate Belladonna

✂️’Belladonna Spirit’ Atropa Belladonna, the deadly nightshade named after one of the three fates of Greek myth. Atropa is the sister who cuts the thread of life after her other two sisters spin the thread and measure it. It is said that not even the gods can alter one’s fate after the three sisters weave one’s destiny.

🫀’Poison Heart’

💀’Gatekeepers’

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#belladonna #poisonousplants #poisonous
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Ive never heard anyone say datura was peasant. Like ever.

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i can hear people talking always, sometimes calling my name. with my eyes closed
i can see these people appear and have conversations sometimes with me too, sometimes this girls face appeared close to my face, she was hot  ; )
i kept making out with her but then she would vanish and come back later and make out, felt so real.
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@electric wizard 2012-04-17 (Scopolamine aka Hyoscine Hydrobromide/ 1.5mg)
 
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that shit is toxic, most psychedelics aren't...


i eat meat and take acid... there is a point i can't really take anymore with out going crazy, but ehh.. i don't think that's cause i'm not a spiritual person... think whatever you want though.... ... .. seems kind of harmful to post on the net, but then again i post some stuff that could lead someone down the wrong path cause i feel strongly about it or just think it's thought provoking.

i thought vegans were super cool before the ozone started healing in 2016... if global warming isn't really from cow farts, i can't really see how eating meat is a problem. i don't think it's right to torture animals... i was just reading about wendy's beef and they give their cattle space to move, feed and water them well, and don't push them around too much. i should probably check into all the meat i buy.. i assume now days that things are more civil cause PETA and what not, maybe not though. i could definitely be wrong about some of the meat i eat, but i don't think i notice that spiritually which is funny.
 
No, datura is not acid-like trip, it's very different type of experience.

Although it's true that useful and even slightly pleasant experience could be achieved on datura (or tropane alkaloids in general), recreational value is very low.

Extreme attention to proper dose, set and settings is crucial.

Btw. Exalted veganistic religion is really annoying. 😉
 
So wait not eating meat makes Datura better then Acid/ LSD ???

Respect the Vegan angle as a minimal meat eating ex veggie with a Caseine allergy. Not that i dont eat Cheese or Butter but like dead animals at times when it comes on my path. So no daily businness like the regular dairy fed retard. But to each their own, but take one thing from me we are not gonna get killed by Cow farts that also contain N2O. Also a so called greenhouse gas. Glad that terror is over. But those animals, cows having the biggest footprint and the consumers of their baby food/ Milk and dead flesh to.

Common any one seen abattoir videos, if not watch them that definitely restricts consumption in most. I am perfectly healthy physically. mentally whole different thing. No cadaver eating gone change that afaik.
 
No, datura is not acid-like trip, it's very different type of experience.

Yes. Stramonium was much more disturbing.

Although it's true that useful and even slightly pleasant experience could be achieved on datura (or tropane alkaloids in general), recreational value is very low.

Depends on how vain and how much of a sicko you are.

You're so vain you come from Pennsylvania, I'm from Transylvania...

Never actually saw any vampires on it, but I did manage to turn into a hairy monster in front of the mirror and perceived some visuals of flaming skulls.

I would not, however, describe my datura stramonium experiences as dracula-lsd.
 
i eat meat and im gonna die. he’s got sound logic.
Fair point. I say let the kid eat datura. Let him get what he deserves :D

I won't even try to convince him that plants are also lifeforms that are frequently killed to be consumed.

I spent a couple years in south america. I met multiple people (almost always tourists) telling me I can get high from eating floriponga (Brugmansia sp) One time specifically, there was this young guy who kept getting me to try it with him at my hostel. I declined every time and warned him it's not a toy. He seemed like an ok guy, maybe a bit ignorant and reckless. Well one day he's not there. A few days later he shows up looking completely disheveled and wrecked. He says to me "I'm never touching that plant again" I asked him what happened and he told he came to, strapped to a gurney in a hospital (he didn't speak spanish btw). They only let him out when an English speaking nurse arrived and he was able to explain what had happened.

That said I have taken a few tokes of the flower, not much. Powerful substance I don't know if I'll try again.

I had also met the granddaughter of a brugmansia shaman/bruja. I would have called her a curandera, but she wasn't. This particular shaman, you go to her if you have a lost or stolen item. You describe it or maybe bring some token that is related. The shaman eats/consumes a good dose of floripondia and then "supposedly" walks a straight line (sometimes directly through the jungle) to the object. It would have taken me a day of travel by boat to meet the lady so I never did.
 
Myself and a group of friends had to 'babysit' one mutual friend after they consumed what turned out to be a large dose of datura. seventy two hours of what, to us seemed like bizarre behaviors.

Didn't the US military actually develop a series of synthetics with truly scary durations of action? I seem to recall reports that mentioned WEEKS.

The only firm example I know of was Artane AKA trihexylphenidyl. At a Polish club a group of elderly fellows drank Polish spirit to wash down the pills and were out of their collective trees all afternoon. No idea what that concoction did but they were quite entertaining.

Such places are more than just a place to drink, it's a real community centre. But I was a guest and since all of the regulars were fine with it, so was I.

The only class of institution I know of where people consume scopolamine through choice is in jails. Scopolamine butyl bromide is an IBS medication but evidently, pyrolysis results in that vital butyl bromide moiety being removed thus allowing it to cross the BBB.

I think it has it's fans, but let's be honest, if it were popular, governents would either tax it or ban it.
 
Myself and a group of friends had to 'babysit' one mutual friend after they consumed what turned out to be a large dose of datura. seventy two hours of what, to us seemed like bizarre behaviors.

Didn't the US military actually develop a series of synthetics with truly scary durations of action? I seem to recall reports that mentioned WEEKS.

The only firm example I know of was Artane AKA trihexylphenidyl. At a Polish club a group of elderly fellows drank Polish spirit to wash down the pills and were out of their collective trees all afternoon. No idea what that concoction did but they were quite entertaining.

Such places are more than just a place to drink, it's a real community centre. But I was a guest and since all of the regulars were fine with it, so was I.

The only class of institution I know of where people consume scopolamine through choice is in jails. Scopolamine butyl bromide is an IBS medication but evidently, pyrolysis results in that vital butyl bromide moiety being removed thus allowing it to cross the BBB.

I think it has it's fans, but let's be honest, if it were popular, governents would either tax it or ban it.

I once wore a scopolamine patch for food poissining, took some dramamine with it then smoked some northern lights. Once the weed started working i couldnt tell if i was thinking something or actually saying it. Was not fun at all i took a clonaz and went and lied down.

During MK ultra the US gov did indeed invent a number of anticholinergics the best known of which was BZ gas. It was meant as a incapacitating agent but failed as although you where out of your mind you could still return fire
 
Fair point. I say let the kid eat datura. Let him get what he deserves :D

I won't even try to convince him that plants are also lifeforms that are frequently killed to be consumed.

I spent a couple years in south america. I met multiple people (almost always tourists) telling me I can get high from eating floriponga (Brugmansia sp) One time specifically, there was this young guy who kept getting me to try it with him at my hostel. I declined every time and warned him it's not a toy. He seemed like an ok guy, maybe a bit ignorant and reckless. Well one day he's not there. A few days later he shows up looking completely disheveled and wrecked. He says to me "I'm never touching that plant again" I asked him what happened and he told he came to, strapped to a gurney in a hospital (he didn't speak spanish btw). They only let him out when an English speaking nurse arrived and he was able to explain what had happened.

That said I have taken a few tokes of the flower, not much. Powerful substance I don't know if I'll try again.

I had also met the granddaughter of a brugmansia shaman/bruja. I would have called her a curandera, but she wasn't. This particular shaman, you go to her if you have a lost or stolen item. You describe it or maybe bring some token that is related. The shaman eats/consumes a good dose of floripondia and then "supposedly" walks a straight line (sometimes directly through the jungle) to the object. It would have taken me a day of travel by boat to meet the lady so I never did.
it’s got some interesting history in haiti where the concept of a “zombie” originated by voudou priests that poison ppl with a concoction of different poisons in a specific order, where it seems like datura is what is responsible for the zombie like state where the person can be lead around like zombified dog.
 
my man my brother in christ
shit even i like datura i did a few seeds a month ago its just u gotta be honest its not a normal high
not saying it isnt fun but you cant advertise it as a psychedelic experience
 
I have quite extensive experience with Datura (stramonium) in small, medium, high and very high doses. Even used belladona few times.
It is the least pleasant and recreational substance I've ever consumed.

Visit to world of tropane dreams is not psychedelic experience at all, but golden rule of Dose, Set, Setting still applies and is much, much more important than with classic psychedelics.

If you not follow almost optimal scenario (which is very difficult to do) you will regret it.

There really is some truth in OP post, mainly in comments about dosing and proper place for experience.
 
I have quite extensive experience with Datura (stramonium) in small, medium, high and very high doses. Even used belladona few times.
It is the least pleasant and recreational substance I've ever consumed.

Visit to world of tropane dreams is not psychedelic experience at all, but golden rule of Dose, Set, Setting still applies and is much, much more important than with classic psychedelics.

If you not follow almost optimal scenario (which is very difficult to do) you will regret it.

There really is some truth in OP post, mainly in comments about dosing and proper place for experience.

My friend took it and thought she was trapped in a painting for about a day. Honestly it sounds like dramamine except worse. Id rather cut my balls off and flush them down the toilet then try tripping on a deleriant again. Im not 12 anymore if i want a tryptamine ill go get a tryptamine. Or if i wanna go real crazy ill get salvia. Atleast you arent likely to go insane from it. Some people dont come back from datura
 
I also have some extreme stories with datura.
You need be very careful with the dose, if you want to have any sort of useful experience.

It's quite irony that datura is used exactly by the people who should absolutely not use it at all.
Anyway, only users should be really good prepared people with lot of information and very specific goals.
 
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