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Dissociatives How do the visual, mental and physical effects of DXM compare to other dissociative drugs like Ketamine, PCP and 3-MeO-PCP?

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I really want to see your guys' take on how DXM compares to other Dissociatives and which one is better and more euphoric overall. I was never really a big fan of DXM as to me it's a pretty emotionally flattening and sometimes underwhelming experience and it was something I did more out of necessity than out of willingly seeking it out. Still a million times better than DPH (Benadryl 🤢). Please be as descriptive and accurate as possible with your answers about your personal experiences. Thank you.
 
Hm. It has been decades since I touched DXM, but since then I've taken many other dissos over the years, mainly ketamine, ketamine analogues, or PCP analogues, N2O if you count it and DXM stood apart. It was the "dirtiest" feeling of them all and really messed with my vision for multiple days. I did have a very few strong DXM trips where I did have out of body sensations (I felt like I was backflipping through space) and most of my arylcyclohexylamine experiences have generally not been that disassociating physically. There have been a few times I did dissos with psychedelics or N2O and left my body but typically I am in my body even if it feels very very different. I thought 3-meo-pcp felt extremely clean and in my body. DXM and ketamine/DCK probably affected my coordination the most out of them. Visually... I dunno, they are all kind of unique but I remember DXM visuals being pretty dark and not well defined. 2-OXO and MXE/IPr visuals were very warm if not bright. I called 2 Oxo as visual as LSD though in a different way.

If I had to choose which of the dissos I've used that are most like DXM it would be ketamine but they not good comparisons. I'm not dissing on DXM but I haven't tried it since I had access to cleaner things. I also felt DXM had a day or 2 hangover where as none of the arylcyclohexylamines do that to me (unless I drink alcohol with them).

Taken O-PCE, 3-MEO-PCP, 3-OH-PCP, K, 2FDCK, DCK, MXE and MXIPr.
 
Hm. It has been decades since I touched DXM, but since then I've taken many other dissos over the years, mainly ketamine, ketamine analogues, or PCP analogues, N2O if you count it and DXM stood apart. It was the "dirtiest" feeling of them all and really messed with my vision for multiple days. I did have a very few strong DXM trips where I did have out of body sensations (I felt like I was backflipping through space) and most of my arylcyclohexylamine experiences have generally not been that disassociating physically. There have been a few times I did dissos with psychedelics or N2O and left my body but typically I am in my body even if it feels very very different. I thought 3-meo-pcp felt extremely clean and in my body. DXM and ketamine/DCK probably affected my coordination the most out of them. Visually... I dunno, they are all kind of unique but I remember DXM visuals being pretty dark and not well defined. 2-OXO and MXE/IPr visuals were very warm if not bright. I called 2 Oxo as visual as LSD though in a different way.

If I had to choose which of the dissos I've used that are most like DXM it would be ketamine but they not good comparisons. I'm not dissing on DXM but I haven't tried it since I had access to cleaner things. I also felt DXM had a day or 2 hangover where as none of the arylcyclohexylamines do that to me (unless I drink alcohol with them).

Taken O-PCE, 3-MEO-PCP, 3-OH-PCP, K, 2FDCK, DCK, MXE and MXIPr.
Thank you for your detailed response brother. Good to know that info.
 
Compared to ketamine it just sucks. Ive taken regular ket and s ket and both are miles better then dxm. Not even in the same catagory
 
Hm. It has been decades since I touched DXM, but since then I've taken many other dissos over the years, mainly ketamine, ketamine analogues, or PCP analogues, N2O if you count it and DXM stood apart. It was the "dirtiest" feeling of them all and really messed with my vision for multiple days. I did have a very few strong DXM trips where I did have out of body sensations (I felt like I was backflipping through space) and most of my arylcyclohexylamine experiences have generally not been that disassociating physically. There have been a few times I did dissos with psychedelics or N2O and left my body but typically I am in my body even if it feels very very different. I thought 3-meo-pcp felt extremely clean and in my body. DXM and ketamine/DCK probably affected my coordination the most out of them. Visually... I dunno, they are all kind of unique but I remember DXM visuals being pretty dark and not well defined. 2-OXO and MXE/IPr visuals were very warm if not bright. I called 2 Oxo as visual as LSD though in a different way.

If I had to choose which of the dissos I've used that are most like DXM it would be ketamine but they not good comparisons. I'm not dissing on DXM but I haven't tried it since I had access to cleaner things. I also felt DXM had a day or 2 hangover where as none of the arylcyclohexylamines do that to me (unless I drink alcohol with them).

Taken O-PCE, 3-MEO-PCP, 3-OH-PCP, K, 2FDCK, DCK, MXE and MXIPr.
Thank you for your detailed response brother. Good to k
Hm. It has been decades since I touched DXM, but since then I've taken many other dissos over the years, mainly ketamine, ketamine analogues, or PCP analogues, N2O if you count it and DXM stood apart. It was the "dirtiest" feeling of them all and really messed with my vision for multiple days. I did have a very few strong DXM trips where I did have out of body sensations (I felt like I was backflipping through space) and most of my arylcyclohexylamine experiences have generally not been that disassociating physically. There have been a few times I did dissos with psychedelics or N2O and left my body but typically I am in my body even if it feels very very different. I thought 3-meo-pcp felt extremely clean and in my body. DXM and ketamine/DCK probably affected my coordination the most out of them. Visually... I dunno, they are all kind of unique but I remember DXM visuals being pretty dark and not well defined. 2-OXO and MXE/IPr visuals were very warm if not bright. I called 2 Oxo as visual as LSD though in a different way.

If I had to choose which of the dissos I've used that are most like DXM it would be ketamine but they not good comparisons. I'm not dissing on DXM but I haven't tried it since I had access to cleaner things. I also felt DXM had a day or 2 hangover where as none of the arylcyclohexylamines do that to me (unless I drink alcohol with them).

Taken O-PCE, 3-MEO-PCP, 3-OH-PCP, K, 2FDCK, DCK, MXE and MXIPr.
Personally just took 480mg of DXM and it's pretty trash. Very underwhelming. I don't really feel much and I've waited like an hour. The other times I've done DXM have been somewhat decent experiences but not anything too memorable even when compared to marijuana. I did have one experience with robitussin cough syrup that was mildly empathogenic and euphoric like MDMA and the colors also looked warmer in a way. I have tried replicating that experience (which was the best I had on DXM) to no avail. Overall DXM is one of those drugs that you only do out of desperation. Anyone who has good money and a plug to get their stuff from will probably settle for Ketamine or PCP because it is simply superior in every way. DXM is not even a real drug in my eyes, it's more of an abused medication like benadryl (which ironically is even less of a real drug than DXM). My point is, if you have money and a plug, do real drugs, don't settle for this shit. You can get a whole lot more bang for your buck. Just test your stuff always and make sure it is pure and safe to consume. Happy tripping!
 
I'm going to try to summarize my relationship to the three substances you mentioned, DXM, ketamine and 3-MeO-PCP. I've used a tremendous amount of all three, and keep in mind that I am virtually immune to drug induced nausea for some peculiar reason, so if one is more nauseating than the other, I'll likely not have noticed.

3-MeO-PCP is probably my all time favorite dissociative. It lasts 3-4 hours, can be eaten, insufflated or smoked, and it has unironically saved my life through its positive impacts on my mental health. I almost always coadministered it with psychedelics like miprocin, DOM, LSD, 2C-B or other dissociatives like 2F-DCK and nitrous. The specific variety of mania induced by 3-MeO-PCP is one of the most intensely effective destroyers of depression I've ever come across, my first encounter with it had my fiance and I videocalling everybody we knew at some time like 3AM or 4AM just because we were so manic, we forgot that most of these folks were asleep and we just wanted to check in. It's an exceptionally empathogenic compound in a way that I rarely hear discussed. It's also pretty easy to hole out on this, I personally call holes induced by PCP (and PCP analogs) "the urethra", since saying "P-hole" (as a variant of K-hole) sounds foolish. Besides, it's kind of funny to say "Oh ignore him, he's stuck in the urethra" instead of "Oh he's stuck in a k-hole". The street lingo for it is just "stuck", I just find the aforementioned verbiage to be sort of comical. I wish there was a less alphabet-soup name for 3-MeO-PCP too, but the most obvious ones like "metamethoxyphencyclidine" are still an absolute mouthful. Breaking through and getting stuck on 3-MeO-PCP can be exceptionally intense, intense in a way that salvia and DMT do not even come close to. In lower doses, this drug is absolutely beyond useful, it's capable of replacing 5 separate antidepressants in people who have lost access to their meds back when covid fuckd up the supply chain, and I'd have them substitute with 3-MeO-PCP, and it worked every time. 2C-B also worked though, strangely enough. I prefer eating PCP the most, then insufflating it second, and smoking it third.

Ketamine is kind of the prototypical arylcyclohexylamine to most folks, and while it may be one of the only other dissociatives I can credit with genuinely saving my life through a cloud of seemingly insurmountable mental health issues, I prefer most other dissociatives over this one. Ketamine has a colder, less empathogenic, more drunken sort of vibe to it. It excels in lower doses, and the tolerance seems to form much faster than it does with other dissociatives. I could use a PCP analog daily for a few weeks before noticing even a tiny amount of tolerance, I can build a severe ketamine tolerance in a single night though. Ketamine also requires pretty monstrous doses, fitting enough ketamine in your nose to get to where you're trying to be can be quite challenging sometimes. Ketamine is a much more lowkey, calm sort of drug that I'd say is better for recreational applications when compared to PCP analogs. Ketamine also seemed more prone to inducing delusions that I actually acted upon, whereas PCP analogs more consistently rooted me back to objective reality in a way that kept me from doing things like waking my fiance up and telling him (while on 1.5 tenstrips of LSD and ~2/3 of a gram of ketamine) that a vision of my celtic ancestors told me that if somebody were to flick a ball bearing at the Queen of England's head (on the temple, specifically) with juuuuuust enough accuracy, she would essentially turn into a cloud of vapor, a fat W for Celts worldwide. By time I had said this, she had passed away months ago. That's the strange kind of delirium that ketamine can induce, whereas PCP analogs will just have me playing upright bass in a somewhat sloppy manner and trying to write code that when I look back at it sober, appears to have been written by a fucking gray alien or something. I have only ever used ketamine via intranasal administration.

DXM is one of the most fascinating drugs I've touched in my entire life, of any class at all. I consider it a dissociative first, a psychedelic second, and an empathogen third, and exceptionally few drugs can cover all three of those bases in a noticeable fashion. Most people get pretty nauseous off of DXM, only slightly off of ketamine, and not at all off of PCP analogs. DXM with nitrous is also one hell of a combo, but the asphyxiation risk is something to be seriously worried about given the possibility of choking on vomit while unconscious from the whippets. LSD or psychedelics alongside DXM are fascinating, though serotonin releasers (MDMA, MDA, 25X-NBXX, etc.) can easily be fatal alongside DXM, so be careful with those specific drugs in combination. MAOIs (harmaline, 5-MeO-DiPT, AMT, etc.) can also be dangerous given that DXM on its own is a serotonin releaser. Combining DXM with bupropion leads to a difference in metabolism which can make for quite an interesting experience, though I prefer DXM without bupropion, the combination is currently an antidepressant sold by big pharma under the name Auvelity. DXM can induce a mystical quality that no other dissociative outside of 3-HO-PCE or 3-MeO-PCP can in my opinion, and it's absolutely worth getting to know at least plateaus 1-3, the 4th can be a bit much for most and can lead to some truly outlandish and damaging behavior while blacked out, though if you have a safe environment and a tripsitter, 4th plateau DXM doses have the potential to be quite therapeutic in my opinion. I've only ever eaten DXM, though I am curious about whether or not extracted crystal DXM could be vaporized or insufflated.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! My apologies if the descriptions here are a little bit scattered, I just took some stimulants so my mind's racing around like crazy, and most of my experiences with 3-MeO-PCP and DXM were 3-5 years ago.
 
I'm going to try to summarize my relationship to the three substances you mentioned, DXM, ketamine and 3-MeO-PCP. I've used a tremendous amount of all three, and keep in mind that I am virtually immune to drug induced nausea for some peculiar reason, so if one is more nauseating than the other, I'll likely not have noticed.

3-MeO-PCP is probably my all time favorite dissociative. It lasts 3-4 hours, can be eaten, insufflated or smoked, and it has unironically saved my life through its positive impacts on my mental health. I almost always coadministered it with psychedelics like miprocin, DOM, LSD, 2C-B or other dissociatives like 2F-DCK and nitrous. The specific variety of mania induced by 3-MeO-PCP is one of the most intensely effective destroyers of depression I've ever come across, my first encounter with it had my fiance and I videocalling everybody we knew at some time like 3AM or 4AM just because we were so manic, we forgot that most of these folks were asleep and we just wanted to check in. It's an exceptionally empathogenic compound in a way that I rarely hear discussed. It's also pretty easy to hole out on this, I personally call holes induced by PCP (and PCP analogs) "the urethra", since saying "P-hole" (as a variant of K-hole) sounds foolish. Besides, it's kind of funny to say "Oh ignore him, he's stuck in the urethra" instead of "Oh he's stuck in a k-hole". The street lingo for it is just "stuck", I just find the aforementioned verbiage to be sort of comical. I wish there was a less alphabet-soup name for 3-MeO-PCP too, but the most obvious ones like "metamethoxyphencyclidine" are still an absolute mouthful. Breaking through and getting stuck on 3-MeO-PCP can be exceptionally intense, intense in a way that salvia and DMT do not even come close to. In lower doses, this drug is absolutely beyond useful, it's capable of replacing 5 separate antidepressants in people who have lost access to their meds back when covid fuckd up the supply chain, and I'd have them substitute with 3-MeO-PCP, and it worked every time. 2C-B also worked though, strangely enough. I prefer eating PCP the most, then insufflating it second, and smoking it third.

Ketamine is kind of the prototypical arylcyclohexylamine to most folks, and while it may be one of the only other dissociatives I can credit with genuinely saving my life through a cloud of seemingly insurmountable mental health issues, I prefer most other dissociatives over this one. Ketamine has a colder, less empathogenic, more drunken sort of vibe to it. It excels in lower doses, and the tolerance seems to form much faster than it does with other dissociatives. I could use a PCP analog daily for a few weeks before noticing even a tiny amount of tolerance, I can build a severe ketamine tolerance in a single night though. Ketamine also requires pretty monstrous doses, fitting enough ketamine in your nose to get to where you're trying to be can be quite challenging sometimes. Ketamine is a much more lowkey, calm sort of drug that I'd say is better for recreational applications when compared to PCP analogs. Ketamine also seemed more prone to inducing delusions that I actually acted upon, whereas PCP analogs more consistently rooted me back to objective reality in a way that kept me from doing things like waking my fiance up and telling him (while on 1.5 tenstrips of LSD and ~2/3 of a gram of ketamine) that a vision of my celtic ancestors told me that if somebody were to flick a ball bearing at the Queen of England's head (on the temple, specifically) with juuuuuust enough accuracy, she would essentially turn into a cloud of vapor, a fat W for Celts worldwide. By time I had said this, she had passed away months ago. That's the strange kind of delirium that ketamine can induce, whereas PCP analogs will just have me playing upright bass in a somewhat sloppy manner and trying to write code that when I look back at it sober, appears to have been written by a fucking gray alien or something. I have only ever used ketamine via intranasal administration.

DXM is one of the most fascinating drugs I've touched in my entire life, of any class at all. I consider it a dissociative first, a psychedelic second, and an empathogen third, and exceptionally few drugs can cover all three of those bases in a noticeable fashion. Most people get pretty nauseous off of DXM, only slightly off of ketamine, and not at all off of PCP analogs. DXM with nitrous is also one hell of a combo, but the asphyxiation risk is something to be seriously worried about given the possibility of choking on vomit while unconscious from the whippets. LSD or psychedelics alongside DXM are fascinating, though serotonin releasers (MDMA, MDA, 25X-NBXX, etc.) can easily be fatal alongside DXM, so be careful with those specific drugs in combination. MAOIs (harmaline, 5-MeO-DiPT, AMT, etc.) can also be dangerous given that DXM on its own is a serotonin releaser. Combining DXM with bupropion leads to a difference in metabolism which can make for quite an interesting experience, though I prefer DXM without bupropion, the combination is currently an antidepressant sold by big pharma under the name Auvelity. DXM can induce a mystical quality that no other dissociative outside of 3-HO-PCE or 3-MeO-PCP can in my opinion, and it's absolutely worth getting to know at least plateaus 1-3, the 4th can be a bit much for most and can lead to some truly outlandish and damaging behavior while blacked out, though if you have a safe environment and a tripsitter, 4th plateau DXM doses have the potential to be quite therapeutic in my opinion. I've only ever eaten DXM, though I am curious about whether or not extracted crystal DXM could be vaporized or insufflated.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! My apologies if the descriptions here are a little bit scattered, I just took some stimulants so my mind's racing around like crazy, and most of my experiences with 3-MeO-PCP and DXM were 3-5 years ago.
Thank you so much for your detailed response Esperighanto! I think your input here (and on this entire website) is easily some of the most educational and valuable information you can find in any drug forum. I think this kind of detailed information could easily be valuable in studies that seek to understand these substances at a much deeper level, their effects on the mind and body and their absolutely incredible therapeutic potential. I'm am also deeply sorry for your loss and wish you the best and kind regards!
 
I'm going to try to summarize my relationship to the three substances you mentioned, DXM, ketamine and 3-MeO-PCP. I've used a tremendous amount of all three, and keep in mind that I am virtually immune to drug induced nausea for some peculiar reason, so if one is more nauseating than the other, I'll likely not have noticed.

3-MeO-PCP is probably my all time favorite dissociative. It lasts 3-4 hours, can be eaten, insufflated or smoked, and it has unironically saved my life through its positive impacts on my mental health. I almost always coadministered it with psychedelics like miprocin, DOM, LSD, 2C-B or other dissociatives like 2F-DCK and nitrous. The specific variety of mania induced by 3-MeO-PCP is one of the most intensely effective destroyers of depression I've ever come across, my first encounter with it had my fiance and I videocalling everybody we knew at some time like 3AM or 4AM just because we were so manic, we forgot that most of these folks were asleep and we just wanted to check in. It's an exceptionally empathogenic compound in a way that I rarely hear discussed. It's also pretty easy to hole out on this, I personally call holes induced by PCP (and PCP analogs) "the urethra", since saying "P-hole" (as a variant of K-hole) sounds foolish. Besides, it's kind of funny to say "Oh ignore him, he's stuck in the urethra" instead of "Oh he's stuck in a k-hole". The street lingo for it is just "stuck", I just find the aforementioned verbiage to be sort of comical. I wish there was a less alphabet-soup name for 3-MeO-PCP too, but the most obvious ones like "metamethoxyphencyclidine" are still an absolute mouthful. Breaking through and getting stuck on 3-MeO-PCP can be exceptionally intense, intense in a way that salvia and DMT do not even come close to. In lower doses, this drug is absolutely beyond useful, it's capable of replacing 5 separate antidepressants in people who have lost access to their meds back when covid fuckd up the supply chain, and I'd have them substitute with 3-MeO-PCP, and it worked every time. 2C-B also worked though, strangely enough. I prefer eating PCP the most, then insufflating it second, and smoking it third.

Ketamine is kind of the prototypical arylcyclohexylamine to most folks, and while it may be one of the only other dissociatives I can credit with genuinely saving my life through a cloud of seemingly insurmountable mental health issues, I prefer most other dissociatives over this one. Ketamine has a colder, less empathogenic, more drunken sort of vibe to it. It excels in lower doses, and the tolerance seems to form much faster than it does with other dissociatives. I could use a PCP analog daily for a few weeks before noticing even a tiny amount of tolerance, I can build a severe ketamine tolerance in a single night though. Ketamine also requires pretty monstrous doses, fitting enough ketamine in your nose to get to where you're trying to be can be quite challenging sometimes. Ketamine is a much more lowkey, calm sort of drug that I'd say is better for recreational applications when compared to PCP analogs. Ketamine also seemed more prone to inducing delusions that I actually acted upon, whereas PCP analogs more consistently rooted me back to objective reality in a way that kept me from doing things like waking my fiance up and telling him (while on 1.5 tenstrips of LSD and ~2/3 of a gram of ketamine) that a vision of my celtic ancestors told me that if somebody were to flick a ball bearing at the Queen of England's head (on the temple, specifically) with juuuuuust enough accuracy, she would essentially turn into a cloud of vapor, a fat W for Celts worldwide. By time I had said this, she had passed away months ago. That's the strange kind of delirium that ketamine can induce, whereas PCP analogs will just have me playing upright bass in a somewhat sloppy manner and trying to write code that when I look back at it sober, appears to have been written by a fucking gray alien or something. I have only ever used ketamine via intranasal administration.

DXM is one of the most fascinating drugs I've touched in my entire life, of any class at all. I consider it a dissociative first, a psychedelic second, and an empathogen third, and exceptionally few drugs can cover all three of those bases in a noticeable fashion. Most people get pretty nauseous off of DXM, only slightly off of ketamine, and not at all off of PCP analogs. DXM with nitrous is also one hell of a combo, but the asphyxiation risk is something to be seriously worried about given the possibility of choking on vomit while unconscious from the whippets. LSD or psychedelics alongside DXM are fascinating, though serotonin releasers (MDMA, MDA, 25X-NBXX, etc.) can easily be fatal alongside DXM, so be careful with those specific drugs in combination. MAOIs (harmaline, 5-MeO-DiPT, AMT, etc.) can also be dangerous given that DXM on its own is a serotonin releaser. Combining DXM with bupropion leads to a difference in metabolism which can make for quite an interesting experience, though I prefer DXM without bupropion, the combination is currently an antidepressant sold by big pharma under the name Auvelity. DXM can induce a mystical quality that no other dissociative outside of 3-HO-PCE or 3-MeO-PCP can in my opinion, and it's absolutely worth getting to know at least plateaus 1-3, the 4th can be a bit much for most and can lead to some truly outlandish and damaging behavior while blacked out, though if you have a safe environment and a tripsitter, 4th plateau DXM doses have the potential to be quite therapeutic in my opinion. I've only ever eaten DXM, though I am curious about whether or not extracted crystal DXM could be vaporized or insufflated.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! My apologies if the descriptions here are a little bit scattered, I just took some stimulants so my mind's racing around like crazy, and most of my experiences with 3-MeO-PCP and DXM were 3-5 years ago.
3-MeO-PCP is an very interesting drug. I have been reading up on it in many different drug forums and wikis and I think it is truly one of those substances that should be significantly more popular but is not due to its novelty. From everything I have heard it is basically a much better and cleaner version of regular PCP. It also seems to be a lot less insanity inducing and more grounded than regular PCP from what I've read. The high is also cleaner. So when you said that 3-MeO-PCP induced P-holes (or as you call them, the urethra) can be more intense and groundbreaking than DMT or Salvia breakthroughs, I was genuinely shocked and in disbelief almost. PCP itself is a very powerful substance so maybe I shouldn't be that surprised but most of the trip reports I've read about 3-MeO-PCP have not really described what it's like to break through on the drug. They typically describe it as a mellow high that is more euphoric and grounded than Ketamine or regular PCP. I think what you said about the drug is actually very interesting and I'm 100% looking forward to trying it when I get my hands on it. I'm a pretty curious person myself and I am always seeking new knowledge on my own, and when it comes to drugs, it's one of the things I'm most curious and interested about so I thank you for your educational input. I think 3-Meo-PCP should definitely be much more looked at and much more popular as a drug. The fact that it can be stronger than DMT is genuinely pretty fascinating and peaks my curiosity. Thank you.
 
I'm going to try to summarize my relationship to the three substances you mentioned, DXM, ketamine and 3-MeO-PCP. I've used a tremendous amount of all three, and keep in mind that I am virtually immune to drug induced nausea for some peculiar reason, so if one is more nauseating than the other, I'll likely not have noticed.

3-MeO-PCP is probably my all time favorite dissociative. It lasts 3-4 hours, can be eaten, insufflated or smoked, and it has unironically saved my life through its positive impacts on my mental health. I almost always coadministered it with psychedelics like miprocin, DOM, LSD, 2C-B or other dissociatives like 2F-DCK and nitrous. The specific variety of mania induced by 3-MeO-PCP is one of the most intensely effective destroyers of depression I've ever come across, my first encounter with it had my fiance and I videocalling everybody we knew at some time like 3AM or 4AM just because we were so manic, we forgot that most of these folks were asleep and we just wanted to check in. It's an exceptionally empathogenic compound in a way that I rarely hear discussed. It's also pretty easy to hole out on this, I personally call holes induced by PCP (and PCP analogs) "the urethra", since saying "P-hole" (as a variant of K-hole) sounds foolish. Besides, it's kind of funny to say "Oh ignore him, he's stuck in the urethra" instead of "Oh he's stuck in a k-hole". The street lingo for it is just "stuck", I just find the aforementioned verbiage to be sort of comical. I wish there was a less alphabet-soup name for 3-MeO-PCP too, but the most obvious ones like "metamethoxyphencyclidine" are still an absolute mouthful. Breaking through and getting stuck on 3-MeO-PCP can be exceptionally intense, intense in a way that salvia and DMT do not even come close to. In lower doses, this drug is absolutely beyond useful, it's capable of replacing 5 separate antidepressants in people who have lost access to their meds back when covid fuckd up the supply chain, and I'd have them substitute with 3-MeO-PCP, and it worked every time. 2C-B also worked though, strangely enough. I prefer eating PCP the most, then insufflating it second, and smoking it third.

Ketamine is kind of the prototypical arylcyclohexylamine to most folks, and while it may be one of the only other dissociatives I can credit with genuinely saving my life through a cloud of seemingly insurmountable mental health issues, I prefer most other dissociatives over this one. Ketamine has a colder, less empathogenic, more drunken sort of vibe to it. It excels in lower doses, and the tolerance seems to form much faster than it does with other dissociatives. I could use a PCP analog daily for a few weeks before noticing even a tiny amount of tolerance, I can build a severe ketamine tolerance in a single night though. Ketamine also requires pretty monstrous doses, fitting enough ketamine in your nose to get to where you're trying to be can be quite challenging sometimes. Ketamine is a much more lowkey, calm sort of drug that I'd say is better for recreational applications when compared to PCP analogs. Ketamine also seemed more prone to inducing delusions that I actually acted upon, whereas PCP analogs more consistently rooted me back to objective reality in a way that kept me from doing things like waking my fiance up and telling him (while on 1.5 tenstrips of LSD and ~2/3 of a gram of ketamine) that a vision of my celtic ancestors told me that if somebody were to flick a ball bearing at the Queen of England's head (on the temple, specifically) with juuuuuust enough accuracy, she would essentially turn into a cloud of vapor, a fat W for Celts worldwide. By time I had said this, she had passed away months ago. That's the strange kind of delirium that ketamine can induce, whereas PCP analogs will just have me playing upright bass in a somewhat sloppy manner and trying to write code that when I look back at it sober, appears to have been written by a fucking gray alien or something. I have only ever used ketamine via intranasal administration.

DXM is one of the most fascinating drugs I've touched in my entire life, of any class at all. I consider it a dissociative first, a psychedelic second, and an empathogen third, and exceptionally few drugs can cover all three of those bases in a noticeable fashion. Most people get pretty nauseous off of DXM, only slightly off of ketamine, and not at all off of PCP analogs. DXM with nitrous is also one hell of a combo, but the asphyxiation risk is something to be seriously worried about given the possibility of choking on vomit while unconscious from the whippets. LSD or psychedelics alongside DXM are fascinating, though serotonin releasers (MDMA, MDA, 25X-NBXX, etc.) can easily be fatal alongside DXM, so be careful with those specific drugs in combination. MAOIs (harmaline, 5-MeO-DiPT, AMT, etc.) can also be dangerous given that DXM on its own is a serotonin releaser. Combining DXM with bupropion leads to a difference in metabolism which can make for quite an interesting experience, though I prefer DXM without bupropion, the combination is currently an antidepressant sold by big pharma under the name Auvelity. DXM can induce a mystical quality that no other dissociative outside of 3-HO-PCE or 3-MeO-PCP can in my opinion, and it's absolutely worth getting to know at least plateaus 1-3, the 4th can be a bit much for most and can lead to some truly outlandish and damaging behavior while blacked out, though if you have a safe environment and a tripsitter, 4th plateau DXM doses have the potential to be quite therapeutic in my opinion. I've only ever eaten DXM, though I am curious about whether or not extracted crystal DXM could be vaporized or insufflated.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! My apologies if the descriptions here are a little bit scattered, I just took some stimulants so my mind's racing around like crazy, and most of my experiences with 3-MeO-PCP and DXM were 3-5 years ago.
Also could you please explain what it's like to get stuck on 3-Meo-PCP? I would love to know.
 
I'm going to try to summarize my relationship to the three substances you mentioned, DXM, ketamine and 3-MeO-PCP. I've used a tremendous amount of all three, and keep in mind that I am virtually immune to drug induced nausea for some peculiar reason, so if one is more nauseating than the other, I'll likely not have noticed.

3-MeO-PCP is probably my all time favorite dissociative. It lasts 3-4 hours, can be eaten, insufflated or smoked, and it has unironically saved my life through its positive impacts on my mental health. I almost always coadministered it with psychedelics like miprocin, DOM, LSD, 2C-B or other dissociatives like 2F-DCK and nitrous. The specific variety of mania induced by 3-MeO-PCP is one of the most intensely effective destroyers of depression I've ever come across, my first encounter with it had my fiance and I videocalling everybody we knew at some time like 3AM or 4AM just because we were so manic, we forgot that most of these folks were asleep and we just wanted to check in. It's an exceptionally empathogenic compound in a way that I rarely hear discussed. It's also pretty easy to hole out on this, I personally call holes induced by PCP (and PCP analogs) "the urethra", since saying "P-hole" (as a variant of K-hole) sounds foolish. Besides, it's kind of funny to say "Oh ignore him, he's stuck in the urethra" instead of "Oh he's stuck in a k-hole". The street lingo for it is just "stuck", I just find the aforementioned verbiage to be sort of comical. I wish there was a less alphabet-soup name for 3-MeO-PCP too, but the most obvious ones like "metamethoxyphencyclidine" are still an absolute mouthful. Breaking through and getting stuck on 3-MeO-PCP can be exceptionally intense, intense in a way that salvia and DMT do not even come close to. In lower doses, this drug is absolutely beyond useful, it's capable of replacing 5 separate antidepressants in people who have lost access to their meds back when covid fuckd up the supply chain, and I'd have them substitute with 3-MeO-PCP, and it worked every time. 2C-B also worked though, strangely enough. I prefer eating PCP the most, then insufflating it second, and smoking it third.

Ketamine is kind of the prototypical arylcyclohexylamine to most folks, and while it may be one of the only other dissociatives I can credit with genuinely saving my life through a cloud of seemingly insurmountable mental health issues, I prefer most other dissociatives over this one. Ketamine has a colder, less empathogenic, more drunken sort of vibe to it. It excels in lower doses, and the tolerance seems to form much faster than it does with other dissociatives. I could use a PCP analog daily for a few weeks before noticing even a tiny amount of tolerance, I can build a severe ketamine tolerance in a single night though. Ketamine also requires pretty monstrous doses, fitting enough ketamine in your nose to get to where you're trying to be can be quite challenging sometimes. Ketamine is a much more lowkey, calm sort of drug that I'd say is better for recreational applications when compared to PCP analogs. Ketamine also seemed more prone to inducing delusions that I actually acted upon, whereas PCP analogs more consistently rooted me back to objective reality in a way that kept me from doing things like waking my fiance up and telling him (while on 1.5 tenstrips of LSD and ~2/3 of a gram of ketamine) that a vision of my celtic ancestors told me that if somebody were to flick a ball bearing at the Queen of England's head (on the temple, specifically) with juuuuuust enough accuracy, she would essentially turn into a cloud of vapor, a fat W for Celts worldwide. By time I had said this, she had passed away months ago. That's the strange kind of delirium that ketamine can induce, whereas PCP analogs will just have me playing upright bass in a somewhat sloppy manner and trying to write code that when I look back at it sober, appears to have been written by a fucking gray alien or something. I have only ever used ketamine via intranasal administration.

DXM is one of the most fascinating drugs I've touched in my entire life, of any class at all. I consider it a dissociative first, a psychedelic second, and an empathogen third, and exceptionally few drugs can cover all three of those bases in a noticeable fashion. Most people get pretty nauseous off of DXM, only slightly off of ketamine, and not at all off of PCP analogs. DXM with nitrous is also one hell of a combo, but the asphyxiation risk is something to be seriously worried about given the possibility of choking on vomit while unconscious from the whippets. LSD or psychedelics alongside DXM are fascinating, though serotonin releasers (MDMA, MDA, 25X-NBXX, etc.) can easily be fatal alongside DXM, so be careful with those specific drugs in combination. MAOIs (harmaline, 5-MeO-DiPT, AMT, etc.) can also be dangerous given that DXM on its own is a serotonin releaser. Combining DXM with bupropion leads to a difference in metabolism which can make for quite an interesting experience, though I prefer DXM without bupropion, the combination is currently an antidepressant sold by big pharma under the name Auvelity. DXM can induce a mystical quality that no other dissociative outside of 3-HO-PCE or 3-MeO-PCP can in my opinion, and it's absolutely worth getting to know at least plateaus 1-3, the 4th can be a bit much for most and can lead to some truly outlandish and damaging behavior while blacked out, though if you have a safe environment and a tripsitter, 4th plateau DXM doses have the potential to be quite therapeutic in my opinion. I've only ever eaten DXM, though I am curious about whether or not extracted crystal DXM could be vaporized or insufflated.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! My apologies if the descriptions here are a little bit scattered, I just took some stimulants so my mind's racing around like crazy, and most of my experiences with 3-MeO-PCP and DXM were 3-5 years ago.
As someone who's taken tons of antidepressants throughout my life, I could also 100% agree that psychoactive drugs can help you in a way no other anti-depressant (or combination of anti-depressants) could. And I mean that. It's not even close. The real crime is that these drugs are not completely legal. The governments who prohibit this substances are the true criminals, not the people who sell them.
 
As someone who's taken tons of antidepressants throughout my life, I could also 100% agree that psychoactive drugs can help you in a way no other anti-depressant (or combination of anti-depressants) could. And I mean that. It's not even close. The real crime is that these drugs are not completely legal. The governments who prohibit this substances are the true criminals, not the people who sell them.
I can remember a time when I could easily buy LSD totally legally.
We have gone through some very dark times since then.
 
I can remember a time when I could easily buy LSD totally legally.
We have gone through some very dark times since then.
Holy shit wait how long ago was that??? Last I checked LSD was made illegal in 1970 thanks to that pinocchio nosed asshole Richard Nixon. Maybe you are referring to LSD analogues?
 
Holy shit wait how long ago was that??? Last I checked LSD was made illegal in 1970 thanks to that pinocchio nosed asshole Richard Nixon. Maybe you are referring to LSD analogues?
No I was using LSD as far back as 1965 ;) There are at least a few of us here at Bluelight that I am aware of
 
On topic, my experiences with PCP were no where like DXM . I've used PCP in a variety of ways but my favorite was Liquid PCP smoked. I haven't had any since 1995 and don't anticipate that I will.
 
On topic, my experienced with PCP were no where like DXM . I've used PCP in a variety of ways but my favorite was Liquid PCP smoked. I haven't had any since 1995 and don't anticipate that I will.
Was there anything particularly bad about PCP that made you get off of it or did you just get bored of it? I've heard that strong enough PCP can make you completely lose yourself and enter a state of mania where you don't know what you are doing, but I'm not gonna write it off because I jave also heard a lot of good things about it. Honestly sounds like fun to me. I just don't want to walk into traffic while in a euphoric haze is all.
 
The stuff I had was in little bottles, perhaps 1/2 fluid oz. I would take a bud about the size of a pea, touch it to the liquid just a bit and it would wick up to into the bud. Then I would take one toke and before I would exhale I was in a total state of disassociation. It was never the same twice; sometimes it was colors, and sometime it was an alternate reality where everything around me changed. From the same bottle mind you.

I honestly would not advise it without a trip sitter. One that did not take any PCP.

Seriously.
 
The stuff I had was in little bottles, perhaps 1/2 fluid oz. I would take a bud about the size of a pea, touch it to the liquid just a bit and it would wick up to into the bud. Then I would take one toke and before I would exhale I was in a total state of disassociation. It was never the same twice; sometimes it was colors, and sometime it was an alternate reality where everything around me changed. From the same bottle mind you.

I honestly would not advise it without a trip sitter. One that did not take any PCP.

Seriously.
That sounds pretty damn interesting. I will take your advice to heart my friend. It sounds very potent, and that was probably just from like one drop of pure PCP. That's insane. Thanks for the info!
 
DXM is a super peculiar one for me, it has definitely changed in character throughout the years that I had used it, even though I never binged it aside from maybe one two-days-in-a-row shenanigan. At first, it felt incredibly spacey but in the void that is the jumbled up neural pathways of your mind. Random stuff pops into your head, it has a sort of "fried" vibe to it that was really fun when I was younger. Visuals were things like really low-resolution shapes, or sort of dreaming-while-awake and teleporting to mental recreations of locations. One time I found myself suddenly in my grandmother's house, but everything was this very dim orange, I looked around and then blinked and found myself back where I actually was in real life. Never got any mania or psychosis anything like that from it, it always put me on my ass and made for some great nights of listening to music, looking at my ceiling, and throwing myself into an imaginary black ocean that I could never drown in. Pretty great to be honest, though I liked it too much and kept doing it instead of saving myself a little for when I ended up finding K.

The headspace also started to shift, I noticed that I was really sort of fixated on darker stuff on DXM and would tend to look at more horror movies, stories, etc. or look at really uncanny uncomfortable images (nothing crazy, just imagine stuff you would not want to see pop up on your phone on mushrooms lol). It started to feel sort of silent-hill-ish in my head whenever I had it in my system and I just started to feel really off and spooked, the last time I tried it I did about 450mg and was looking at photos of grimy staircases going down into various dark abysses and started to get really freaked out and thought I might develop some delusion or phobia of staircases if I kept fucking with my head. After looking at some other videos I had saved to watch while on DXM because I thought they'd freak me out, I suddenly thought "what the fuck am I doing, I'm literally just Clockwork Orange-ing myself right now, this has got to be so bad for my head)

By the time I did end up moving on to K I had been experiencing way more physical side effects too from DXM, lots of uncomfortable serotonin dump sorts of feelings, insane bruxism, overheating and turning red, blacking out on high doses instead of being able to handle it and know what was going on, plus the trips began to last more like 12 hours instead of 6 or whatever they're supposed to be. Couldn't sleep either, it's honestly such a nasty drug on the body in basically every way. I also got less visuals over time, just that incredibly FUCKED headspace.

In regards to K, I felt like it was a bit more emotionally challenging sort of like a psychedelic at times (usually with heavy use) but in general so much lighter and cleaner feeling. It definitely feels like the baseline, or standard of dissociatives, and actually produced amazing visuals that made me rethink all of my DXM use lol. Though I do notice if I get a little bit too stoned and sleep deprived, I find myself feeling this sort of threshhold mania enter my brain and I start feeling motivated for really weird shit like being a traveling Gonzo journalist but it's chill because it's always completely manageable and more funny than anything. It's also incredibly moreish in comparison, the fact it's so much cleaner plus the nature of the ROA and the duration makes it pretty desirable to redose and I always found it hard to manage my use when I had it around tbh, or more specifically after I started on a given night.

In terms of visuals and headspace I found K to do a lot of fun things with the brain, it sometimes felt like going into your own psyche as if it were a museum exhibit, sometimes it felt like cheating and skipping 50 steps to reach some transendental level of meditation, sometimes it made me feel really insecure and cry for hours. I have no idea why, or if it's just some personal relationship with dissociation thats more challenging, as I used to get a sort of sadness and insecurity during DXM trips, though I think if you're doing fine in life and nothing is bothering you a lot you don't need to worry about having a "bad experience" or whatever
 
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