Miscellaneous just got my shipment of 80x salvia divinorum, what should i do to prepare for the experience

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Once at a festival I gave a friend, or friend of a friend rather, a large hit of 50x while we were chilling in the campsite. He went silent for about a minute, then abruptly screamed, threw the pipe across the field, shouted "that shit is fucking evil" and retreated into his tent. He re-emerged 20 minutes later shrugging off the incident. Neither of us really knew what it was back then. To this day I wonder what he saw or experienced. No doubt in my my mind he was utterly terrified though.

When I was referring to the "train" it was because of an incident my friends and I had the first time we messed with this stuff.

My best friend took a large hit of extract. He said that he was pressed up against a wall in a tunnel. A large subway train came screaming by inches from his face and he was sure he was going to die. When he came back down he was muttering "train train train" and refused to ever try the stuff again after that.

I've done it one time and I honestly do not remember what happened. Just know I wasn't interested in testing the waters again. We had another person that night that flipped his shit and it took 3 of us to restrain him. I'm sure everyone has seen the video of someone smoking this stuff who managed to climb up a wall and fall out of a window. For that reason I never suggest taking it while alone.

 

[Didgital]

Once at a festival I gave a friend, or friend of a friend rather, a large hit of 50x while we were chilling in the campsite. He went silent for about a minute, then abruptly screamed, threw the pipe across the field, shouted "that shit is fucking evil" and retreated into his tent. He re-emerged 20 minutes later shrugging off the incident. Neither of us really knew what it was back then. To this day I wonder what he saw or experienced. No doubt in my my mind he was utterly terrified though.

Ok funny festival story. I'm pretty young like 18 and I notice in the garbage is a perfectly good hitter box. I opened it, it had the hitter and it was filled with weed. I already had weed so I didn't look too close and stuck it in my backpack. The next evening, I had eaten a decent dose of mushrooms (+2 grams) and was laying down on the grass watching a string cheese concert. I had run out of the weed I'd brought but remembered the hitter box in my backpack. It was night mind you so I couldn't see what I was doing very well. I thought about loading my glass bowl, but for ease, I just used the hitter.

I take one puff and instantly realize why someone threw it in the trash. It is strong salvia extract. I feel like I am melting/becoming one with the ground. Fortunately I am familiar with the effects and so I didn't freak out. In fact, it was actually one of my more relaxing salvia trips. I continued to lay on the ground, basically merged into it, telling myself not to move and that it will be over shortly which it was. The "texture" of music/sound was extremely rich with strong visuals but I never forgot that I had taken the salvia, which happens to me frequently.

I think being on mushrooms actually made the bizarre physical sensations I get from salvia a lot more comfortable/tolerable/grounding.
Still, I'm very grateful I didn't load the pipe and take a huge rip.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

I think being on mushrooms actually made the bizarre physical sensations I get from salvia a lot more comfortable/tolerable/grounding.

Probably so. Shrooms and MDMA are the few drugs outside of opioids that take my chronic pain away 100% for the duration. For whatever reason both are very relaxing on the body to the point where all pain is gone and I feel like my body is in better shape than it was when I was a young child. Mushrooms will actually continue having this effect for many days afterwards. MDMA for the next day or two have a similar effect for me.

Nothing like doing LSD. I feel like all my joints are on fire when I take it now and everything is locked up. Tons of tension all over the body. Which is why I never take it anymore on its own. I either have to candy flip or have a supply of strong opioids around for the comedown.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

Probably so. Shrooms and MDMA are the few drugs outside of opioids that take my chronic pain away 100% for the duration. For whatever reason both are very relaxing on the body to the point where all pain is gone and I feel like my body is in better shape than it was when I was a young child. Mushrooms will actually continue having this effect for many days afterwards. MDMA for the next day or two have a similar effect for me.

Nothing like doing LSD. I feel like all my joints are on fire when I take it now and everything is locked up. Tons of tension all over the body. Which is why I never take it anymore on its own. I either have to candy flip or have a supply of strong opioids around for the comedown.

i’ve had the issue with lsd blowing up my chronic pain into hell. lasting weeks after the trip.

don’t k ke why but it was my last lsd trip 10 years ago.

mdma makes sense amphetamines and stims usually are analgesic to some extent

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

damn I almost feel lucky now that I went way too far (was tricked frankly) -- as if I could have stood up, god knows.

I was unaware that was common and thought it pretty much put you on your ass every time --- than again my experience with it is pretty limited and one of those times someone went for a window.

Terrified was part of it for me or very confused at least.

 

[Esperighanto]

Heroin will pretend to be euphoric or comforting but in its absence you feel the true effect of the drug.

Man, I've only tried heroin twice but both times it induced a violent blackout where I couldn't recognize anybody around me, my homies had to grapple my dumb ass and tie me to a chair until I sobered up.

As far as preparing for a salvia trip, have a tripsitter on hand, get a single jet lighter, and spend some time wasting a little material learning how to get it to vaporize right as it's an exceptionally sensitive thing as far as pyrolysis goes. Salvia is an all-time favorite drug of mine, cultivating it is a beautiful thing to do for anyone and everyone (assuming it's legal where you are, of course). Good luck and have fun with your salvia journeys!

 

[danosaurous22]

What is it like if you work your way up slowly with less strong extract? I'm curious what the experiences are like where you are doing enough to feel strange and psychedelic/weird/whatever it does and hallucinate but not get totally freaked out. I imagine there's a range of experiences possible but then again, with LSD and mushrooms I always felt there was a very clear line between tripping for real and not tripping (just feeling weird and restless), and it wasn't worth doing unless you crossed that line.

 

[helpingout]

What is it like if you work your way up slowly with less strong extract? I'm curious what the experiences are like where you are doing enough to feel strange and psychedelic/weird/whatever it does and hallucinate but not get totally freaked out. I imagine there's a range of experiences possible but then again, with LSD and mushrooms I always felt there was a very clear line between tripping for real and not tripping (just feeling weird and restless), and it wasn't worth doing unless you crossed that line.

Salvia is kind of cool like that. With just plain leaf you can take little baby hits and you can have like a whole really pleasant night with it and then all at once you’ll be in the salvia verse. Completely and totally gone. And then you’ll kind of come back all of a sudden. You really develop an idea of the drugs profound power. Salvia is by far one of my favorite compounds because it teaches respect to chemicals. It also teaches self respect. It’s a punishing molecule but approaching it wIt’s respect allows you to take a glimpse and to truly understand its great power you often have to take too much. I’ve been a strip of gum on a wall. I’ve felt profound gravity that pulled me into other universes. I’ve marched in endless aisles of myself and my desire to be unique had me ripped and torn apart. There are others that I don’t remember. I think one time I lived a complete other life and then came back to this life but I remember thinking that this was not exactly the same life I had left. They were very similar but somehow fundamentally different and I could not place what the difference was. Likely the difference was the perspective salvia had offered which shaped my understanding of the world I was in. Same world but with a new vantage point that salvia taught me lead me to feel I was in a completely different world and that the old one would never return. Drugs change you. Salvia changes everything. Tread carefully.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

What is it like if you work your way up slowly with less strong extract? I'm curious what the experiences are like where you are doing enough to feel strange and psychedelic/weird/whatever it does and hallucinate but not get totally freaked out. I imagine there's a range of experiences possible but then again, with LSD and mushrooms I always felt there was a very clear line between tripping for real and not tripping (just feeling weird and restless), and it wasn't worth doing unless you crossed that line.

Weaker extracts are certainly easier to manage in the sense that loading up a slightly larger pinch in the pipe than you'd meant to won't result in an accidental trip to Valhalla. Not to mention it's easier to smoke/vapourise the hit effectively without burning it up when there's more physical material to carry the heat. I used to buy 20x back when you could get it in stores. I found 50x harder to dose effectively. 80x just sounds daft to me frankly.

I've been sitting on a little pouch of 10x for the better part of a year waiting for it to call to me. I've got a week off starting today so who knows.

Can't remember the last time I smoked salvia. Over a decade ago. Entirely positive experiences in the past though so I am excited to see what it'll show me with a fresh set of eyes.

 

[NoiseNinja]

Probably too late given the date, but for the sake of future people looking up this thread with similar questions:

If you smoke a big dose.

Which of this strong an extract would be a very little head, lay down imidiately after you smoked it, close your eyes, and have a sitter.

And prepare yourself to be completely unprepared to be zipped up, and yes, while not exactly hurting, it will actually litereally feel this way, and folded into another dimensions, where what you normally concider you is merely a small part of a greater landscape, all made up of living interdimentional conscious entities, for about 5 minutes or so.

Afterwards however you will find your self in hightned post-meditative like state.

And it's not like a dream you wake up from, as strange as these trips will without any doubt of an inch seem for anyone who tried them, it feels more like you just entered a parallel reality or dimension, still going on without your knowledge, but at least now you had a peak into what is going on behind the curtain.

Personally I have never had a bad trip on Salvia, yes, I would certainly lie if I said I have not been deeply shocked every time I entered, but I haven't experienced anything that could be caracterized as bad as such, unless you find being used as building material for reality is inherently evil.

I have always come back with a strange sense of familarity, and a soothing, as said post-meditative like (if more intense and lucent), high (if that is even the right word to use).

If you are not up for an interdimentional bungie jump however, and that is what you should expcet it very much feeling like, which I though realize you will have no idea what feels like unless you tried it, concider watching this video first, however, and follow the advice given here:

 

[isotuden]

The goal is always to start slow with this stuff. I'm a huge proponent of the salvia experience I really think it's one of the most absurd things you can go through. Plus, I always thought of it as being quite net-positive as long as you're chill with dosing. There's sort of this antidepressant effect that lingers long after the trip, which in itself I often found to be grounding in a very peculiar way. The comment above me from NoiseNinja explains it very well. If you do enough to really enter salvia space you end up witnessing yourself within the greater whole of reality, which presents itself as a network of interconnected pieces within a greater structure that organizes them equally, like a grid, or a circle cut into slices, or a chain of items along a moving belt, or whatever. It almost feels like you're seeing alternate, close-by timelines all at once. I think a lot of the motifs of people's descriptions of salvia arise from this larger experience, where you suddenly realize you're a part of something. There's this sense of unity that I get, as well as belonging, and this very strange euphoria that pours out of me intensely through laughter and ecstatic yelping.

But at lower doses you'll first notice a distinct change in how your body feels, as well as this very acute shift in headspace towards this salvia-style thinking. It's meditative, grounded, and connecting in an almost empathogenic way. I once mixed a very small amount of 20x extract with weed in a bowl and after smoking it, it made me want to dance for about 25 minutes! And I'm not the type to dance, even on substances, so it says a lot about how profound and untapped the potential of this stuff is. I really wish more research went into salvia divinorum because it's a true easter egg of Earth, of consciousness and life itself. Its gotten a really bad rap since all those BS youtube videos from 15+ years ago of people basically knocking themselves into oblivion. The whole "spending 25 years as a grain of sand" thing has never happened to me or anyone I know because we've all been responsible about dosage

 

[Camomill]

by the way, anybody noticed this feeling in the mouth when on it? also connected to this deep laugh people put out when they enter, also the drooling lol. it has this dark green energy i'd say, like the natural world in some raw state. anybody know what i mean? i just like it really, not for every1 at any time i guess. and has been a decade ago since i've taken it now. maybe some day again hehe peace to everyone in this thread