Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

[F.U.B.A.R.]

u r talking to someone that moved to myanmore for china white.

i am cvnt

Sorry, but I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to @cnnka

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Heroin sounds like fun when you are older and have money and don't give a fuck anymore.

Late to reply but just a word about being older - it's not making things easier. The older you get the more prone you get to experience ALL kinds of side effects and getting sick with less resources to cope. I can tell from experience, when you're already worn out physically and possibly mentally it might seem appealing - especially if ending your life isn't scaring you. BUT: Not only will the WD put you flat without mercy should you ever want or have to stop, you can also simply get sick from the stuff itself and being nauseous and unable to eat for weeks is not fun... Not talking about the famous British grandmas on med grade H, I'm talking about the illegally scored stuff that's never totally clean and that causes all kinds of trouble on a different level when ivd as well...

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I am from Birmingham UK and the gear is never H anymore - every time I score I test and its nitazenes so I use other means to get actual H. Birmingham is flooded with the shit.

So am I & I have another experience than you have had.
You still active on here posting etc

 

[MikeEhrmantraut]

Finding pure H will be the biggest issue. EVERYTHING is cut with Fent. Especially in the USA.

 

[saadman]

From an ex IV H addict I strongly advise against.

There are a two main perspectives I can offer:

If you are like me and are just chasing the rush and not the high and are currently on a path of self destruction the maybe, it’s nice - but I’d be pinning up about 20-30mins later because like I said I only wanted the rush. This led to every major accessible vein in my body collapsing within 2-3 years. Not worth it. I go to the doctors or hospital now and I’m like a fuckijt exhibit and all the nurses father round to see who can draw blood from a stone… I don’t mind really - I did it to myself after all. Sometimes the doctor has to come to do it and I get a little kick when they can’t even get me, and I see their frustration haha!
I offer my foot every time first time because I know there’s a vein there but for some reason they are always against the idea…. Okay I digress….


Next perspective: it’s not mainly about the rush but the really nice relaxing opiate high that follows and lasts several hours. There are MUCH better opiates that can give you this than heroin. And they will be pharmaceutical grade. With heroin you never really know exactly what you’re getting. So I would advise maybe try around 250-400mg codeine. If you don’t have a tolerance that will literally feel exactly like heroin, so you get to experience what it’s like in a pharmaceutical grade capacity and risk of overdose is low (careful you’re not a hyper or super metaboliser, more common if you’re black… I envy you haha!)

There are other pharecutical grade opiates but the reason I recommend codein is two fold; not all opiates are equal… they all have a similar effect but at the same time can feel vastly different, I large dose of codeine WILL feel like heroin - the other benefit to codeine is that your body can only process so much at a time, therefore stopping you from developing a habit or if you develop a habit you will reach a ceiling dose beyond which will not give any further effects. So it’s much safer than heroin, where you can develop tolerance but just continue upping your dose.


If you REALLY want to try H, please start with option 2: codeine. In many countries you can buy codeine-paracetamol tablets without prescription, and it’s very easy to extract the codeine by dissolving the tablets in water and putting the solution through a filter. Codeine is highly water soluble and paracetamol is not. You’ll likely only manage to extract 50-60% of the codeine but it’s an easy way to acquire and try a high dose if this is really what you want.

So full circle, back to the start - Just don’t go down this path….. but if you do, I strongly suggest starting with codeine. It’s safer, will offer you a chance to get off the crazy train before you go too far, and the withdrawals aren’t half as bad.

 

[Misterx1976]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

I WAS A HEROIN ADDICT FOR 3 YEARS
IT RUINED MY LIFE
DO NOT TRY HEROIN

 

[SoCalShordie]

I noticed the picture of all the little stamps. I’ve never seen one of those in my life and I was a heroin addict in Southern California for nearly a decade. All the heroin down here comes as Mexican brown tar, wrapped in teeny tiny little balloons that you can swallow if you’re about to get busted

 

[doubledog]

Heroin is not some perfect substance as some people are making it to be. I would bet that lot of people will be surprised how real experience differs (negatively) from the mythical, popular picture of it.

I used it dozens of times, including IVing, but got bored with it and stopped it altogether.

There is very strong social component of heroin addiction imo, the myth about heroin being really great is one part of it.

I know that its strongly about availability, but opium over heroin any time for me - experience is richer, not so one sided, more interesting, smoother.

 

[N0ph0n0]

If it was'nt for my stash getting confiscated by the cops and my parents thus discovering my use of hard drugs then i would have lost everything, my dealer was supposed to sell me heroin 2 days later. I would have probably OD tbh, i was really stupid i had no clue how dosages worked, i did'nt have a scale or narcan. Man i was pissed to lose all my stash i had just refilled it for like 250 bucks the night before and now im so thankfull.

 

[sadmachine]

Heroin is not some perfect substance as some people are making it to be. I would bet that lot of people will be surprised how real experience differs (negatively) from the mythical, popular picture of it.

I used it dozens of times, including IVing, but got bored with it and stopped it altogether.

There is very strong social component of heroin addiction imo, the myth about heroin being really great is one part of it.

I know that its strongly about availability, but opium over heroin any time for me - experience is richer, not so one sided, more interesting, smoother.

This really irks me because I bought into this hook line and sinker.

A lot of public health/drug ed initiatives fail to leave out the best deterrent; they aren't a "press this button for bliss everytime" button. Sometimes they're very disappointing or even uncomfortable.

The amount of times opioids gave me dysphoric, anxiety inducing experiences, let alone the amount of times it was so unimpressive/I would have had more fun with a nice cannabis gummy.

 

[leyaloev]

My experience with heroin has been… interesting.

It has both simultaneously saved and destroyed my life over a year period.

 

[leyaloev]

The info in this thread can definitely be related to opiate abuse in general, especially the heavier ones. We focused on heroin specifically here because that has been the drug many people have been posting about, asking about advice via trying it for the first time, and it does tend to be the end step for many people who are messing with other opiates. A lot of users who start out with things like hydrocodone, oxy, etc, end up graduating to heroin use.

Yep. Dr had me on 120mg oxycodone over 12 years (each dose) and then when that was cut off for overuse - which was natural, I didn’t have a dose increase in YEARS, I tried H once and it was all over.

Trying to keep moving forward but I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t what I think about in the hard moments.

 

[cnnka]

Yep. Dr had me on 120mg oxycodone over 12 years (each dose) and then when that was cut off for overuse - which was natural, I didn’t have a dose increase in YEARS, I tried H once and it was all over.

Trying to keep moving forward but I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t what I think about in the hard moments.

You sure you using H ? Cause from what I’ve heard in US it tends to be all fent and analogues also in Europe it’s very hard to get Oxy prescription especially IR especially 120mg.
From what it saved you ?

 

[leyaloev]

I’m British but I live in Norway. I was on 80mg depot + 40mg instant release 5 times a day for chronic pain. I don’t want to go into too much detail but I’m a scientist by trade and I am 100% certain because firstly it was prescribed strictly through my doctor, like you said, oxy is hard to find for real so I didn’t touch it illegally, after that I was using strictly H. Also drug tested afterwards (18 hours later) and only had morphine in my system from the H.

That is a whole other question haha.

 

[Ddeeee]

Cannabis imo is best for "creativity" opiates are more to relax I dunno bout everyone else but when im high im gonna be laying down or sitting back i damn sure aint gonna be doing a blue peter painting, or anything that takes any energy

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Cannabis imo is best for "creativity" opiates are more to relax I dunno bout everyone else but when im high im gonna be laying down or sitting back i damn sure aint gonna be doing a blue peter painting, or anything that takes any energy

Opposite here, I go to sleep reliably with weed, while I take opioids including H in the past in order to get shit done or function in general