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Most Euphoric Stimulant?

riffcityequalsmethcity said:
Vyvanse 100 percent. Could have been place and time and time of my life. Who knows. All I know is I was up for 2 days off one dose. These days I'll smoke meth and then eat and take a nap. Lol
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I took 120mg of Vyanse. Made me focused, gave energy etc

Nothing euphoric.
Bit disappointed. Do I need more?
 
I find Adderall to be very euphoric when taking orally if you have no tolerance it has a magic to it like no other. Next in line is methamphetamine. I feel like d-amp is a very subtle buzz and it lacks a lot of the euphoric qualities
 
the easy answer is MDMA. I like BK-MDMA more but that is less stimulant (IME) -- Mephedrone perhaps would be a more stimulant like mdma?

That or meth I suppose -- Some ppl like MDPV but I found it shite compared to amphetamines
 
I've had batches of 3-FPM that were incredibly euphoric, but never found the same quality again. I don't think I ever felt that euphoric by just vaping something like that. Even Meth.

Some batches of euro speed paste are much more euphoric than Adderall ...

NEH . I don't know if it's only me but I don't see anything more euphoric than that, it's my easy answer
 
Euphoria is not really what i go for with stimulants. I guess there is always a hint of panic and anxiety along with any hint of true joy. I mostly use stimulants when i need to stay up drinking for a party, and occasionally in a lower dose just to enhance my social aptitude a bit and sort of optimize the occasion. I have some ADHD like tendencies and sometimes a stimulant can feel rather medicinal.

I find the idea of looking to stimulants for euphoria to be a dead end. The euphoria from a long amphetamine fuelled night that half depletes my system is smaller than the euphoria from THC even if i use the latter daily. Or the euphoria from a small bump of ket. Or even the euphoria from light to moderate doses of kratom. These kinds of euphoria feel calm and grounded while stimulant hype feels like waiting for the inevitable crash. And i don't even crash out that hard after stimulants these days. It's more of a psychological itch that makes it feel treacherous.

Then again i am a person who doesn't seem very good at reaping the benefits from intense social situations. Maybe it's easier for a more outgoing person to connect stimulants with euphoria.

Ketamine has DRI activity but the dissociative properties make it far superior in terms of euphoria. Same with many other ACH dissos.

But whatever improvements straight-up stimulants can give, i'm not too picky and haven't found major differences between amphetamine, cocaine and methylphenidate. I usually go for methylphenidate since it has the perfect duration and seems a bit less taxing. Haven't tried meth but i gather it's just a tiny bit empathogenic and longer lasting. I think i would appreciate it, but i wouldn't bother looking for it.

To take his a step further, i think looking for euphoria in stimulants is a sign of wanting to feel good while staying in a mental space of grandiose denial, rather than working things out and sort of resting in acceptance of oneself. It's a bit like alcohol in this regard. I understand that some people would say this about most drugs in general.
 
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Btw about meth, i have this concept that the tiny bit of empathogenic activity may in practice serve to keep a check on empathy and enable even greater denial and robotic psychopathy during hardcore abuse - while also facilitating stronger and more creative delusions to fuel the madness.

Does this resonate with any meth users?

I have this same idea about some of the RC stimulants which i haven't tried either, like 3-CMC for instance.
 
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notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
the easy answer is MDMA. I like BK-MDMA more but that is less stimulant (IME) -- Mephedrone perhaps would be a more stimulant like mdma?

That or meth I suppose -- Some ppl like MDPV but I found it shite compared to amphetamines
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I found methylone to be more stimulant than MDMA, and a quick google seems to confirm this. It has about the same potency as a DRI but lower at SERT. If you take enough to roll (200-300mg as opposed to about 100-150 for MDMA) you'll have more stimulant activity going on.

If you're comparing with pills, that makes sense because they often contain some amphetamine along with the MDMA to make it more stimulant and more suitable for party and dance. It's a tried-and-true combo, not just a filler substance.

@KetWise Sorry i accidentally quoted your post at first.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
the easy answer is MDMA. I like BK-MDMA more but that is less stimulant (IME) -- Mephedrone perhaps would be a more stimulant like mdma?

That or meth I suppose -- Some ppl like MDPV but I found it shite compared to amphetamines
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Clean entantiopure D-MDA is more stim and trippier while also lasting longer than quality MDMA. ~10% of MDMA turns into MDA in the body as well during metabolism. I’ve always liked a combo of ~60-80mg MDMA + ~40mg MDA alongside 350ug LSD and maybe like 3g of pure GHB to sip on slowly (Xyrem).
 
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Mjäll said:
I found methylone to be more stimulant than MDMA, and a quick google seems to confirm this. It has about the same potency as a DRI but lower at SERT. If you take enough to roll (200-300mg as opposed to about 100-150 for MDMA) you'll have more stimulant activity going on.

If you're comparing with pills, that makes sense because they often contain some amphetamine along with the MDMA to make it more stimulant and more suitable for party and dance. It's a tried-and-true combo, not just a filler substance.

@KetWise Sorry i accidentally quoted your post at first.
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The more stimulating E-pills usually either had just meth in them, MDA, or a combo of MDA + MDMA. MDA is more stimulating, but it also causes better visuals while lasting ~9-10 hours vs 4-6 hours for MDMA. Methylone was okay but it peaks and drops off leaving you in a fiendish state for a couple hours and residing it doesn’t carry you much further after the first hit. 4-MMC was pretty euphoric too with a stimulating edge, but I’ve always personally just preferred pure MDA in conjunction with MDMA.
 
Syntherize said:
Clean entantiopure D-MDA is more stim and trippier while also lasting g longer than quality MDMA. ~10% of MDMA turns into MDA in the body as well during metabolism. I’ve always liked a combo of ~60-80mg MDMA + ~40mg MDA alongside 350ug LSD and maybe like 3g of pure GHB to sip on slowly (Xyrem).
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Oh man that sounds absolutely stellar
 
Syntherize said:
The more stimulating E-pills usually either had just meth in them, MDA, or a combo of MDA + MDMA. MDA is more stimulating, but it also causes better visuals while lasting ~9-10 hours vs 4-6 hours for MDMA. Methylone was okay but it peaks and drops off leaving you in a fiendish state for a couple hours and residing it doesn’t carry you much further after the first hit. 4-MMC was pretty euphoric too with a stimulating edge, but I’ve always personally just preferred pure MDA in conjunction with MDMA.
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Ugh its a shame I never tried MDA while I still used. I think I would have liked it far more than MDMA as I prefer a more stimulating and visual experience.

If youve ever had 6-apb how would you compare it to MDA in terms of psychedelica and stimulation?
 
TheLightBringer said:
Ugh its a shame I never tried MDA while I still used. I think I would have liked it far more than MDMA as I prefer a more stimulating and visual experience.

If youve ever had 6-apb how would you compare it to MDA in terms of psychedelica and stimulation?
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I’ve never tried any of the 5-6-APB’s or MAPB’s before, but I heard that if you combine the 5-APB with 6-APB in the correct ratio the experience is supposed to resemble something like the combo that I mentioned (MDA + MDMA). Also, if you’ve ever had any good E-pills during the 2000’s up until like 2012 then you may have actually tried MDA at some point. I even had some Louis V pressies back in 2017 that tested for pure MDA and they were strong asf—-that was during the pre-COVID era when they started making these super potent E-pills like the Trumps that had the deep score marking in the middle since they were intended to be split in half since those were ~350-400mg MDMA alone. Those were nuts, but I feel bad for anyone who took the whole thing on their first go, because that isn’t a good time with all the puking and stress that will come from that dosage being taken all at once. LoL

P.S. I remember just before the E-pills became so strong and pure again we all went through a phase of bootleg garbage pills containing stuff like PMA, just meth, methylone, 4-MMC, etc and that was mostly during the 2010-2019 time period at least on the east coast. That’s also why I began just buying the pure MDMA xtals by the gram instead of taking a shot in the dark with those sketchy E-pills.
 
fuckabout89 said:
Taking more vyvanse wont help you need dextro without the lysine molecule attached to it which gets rid of most its abuse potential.
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Take 300mg next time and fly for 12 hours. It all depends on your body weight though so don’t take my dosage recommendations to heart. Lysine can be cleaved enzymatically or chemically from the Vyvanse pretty easily if you know what you’re doing. I like Vyvanse since it is a consistent and clean dextroamphetamine high that has a long peak and a subtle comedown.
 
Syntherize said:
Take 300mg next time and fly for 12 hours. It all depends on your body weight though so don’t take my dosage recommendations to heart. Lysine can be cleaved enzymatically or chemically from the Vyvanse pretty easily if you know what you’re doing. I like Vyvanse since it is a consistent and clean dextroamphetamine high that has a long peak and a subtle comedown.
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300 wont do anything its just waste your liver can only process so much of it. Regarding consistency that's why I hate it because I have 2 crashes in the day, I honestly prefer Adderall it lasts longer and gives me more energy. Oh yeah it also takes like an hour and half to work, they need to add a instant release on the outershell.
 
My max dose of Stimulation was 150mg. Methylphenidate Orally. As far as the Crack I used to smoke the dosage was never measured. I just took little crumbs from the Rock And I just smoked the tiny pieces more and more untill ran out of it and I was out of Money. Rember.... If you smoke the whole Rock at once it's a complete waste of money.
 
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MedicinalUser247 said:
My max dose of stimulation was 150mg. Methylphenidate Orally. As far as the Crack I used to smoke the dosage was never measured. I just took little crumbs from the Rock And I just smoked more and more untill I was out of Money.
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Yeah thats one i still want to try
 
fuckabout89 said:
300 wont do anything its just waste your liver can only process so much of it. Regarding consistency that's why I hate it because I have 2 crashes in the day, I honestly prefer Adderall it lasts longer and gives me more energy. Oh yeah it also takes like an hour and half to work, they need to add a instant release on the outershell.
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If You really want the sensation that your "Flying" You smoke PCP, Weed or take Psychedelics. Speeds not going to make you feel like flying, But it will get you that mild glide sensation. So I suggest If you want to feel like you flying take a Psychedelic.
 
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