🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 How High Are You? V. The Height of Sophistication

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Are you referring to the speed? Cuz with that one I did break my resolution yeah.

Yes, I meant the stim-break

With the IC-26 I so far have stuck to my ‘once every other day’ resolution and yesterday I kept it at the small bump at uni for my bone pain. I feel the same fear about the IC-26 though. Won’t lie about knowing damn well I like the stuff too much .—.

It's good if you stick to your resolution, though depending on how long you keep going with the IC-26, even every third day will get you hooked - I guarantee. It happened to me with Tramadol 2-3x a week and the half-life is nowhere close...

i’d be terrified although i never done it. due to the extreme burning it tastes and burns the nose with

Thanks for the reply, I didn't wait for long enough though
Mixed 15 mg with 30 - 40 ml water and started with 5 ml, another 5 ml got my bowels moving, reminding me of the Tapentadol cramps, though milder... Still then just added the rest at once and went to bed.. Noticed a not so bad come up, beginning CEV - and fell asleep
This must be the third time I sleep away the good part with 2c-b

 

[TheLightBringer]

Today's mix so far:

• 40mg of memantine.
• A sum total of 2.2mg of MGM-15 over the last 20 hours or so.
• An unknown though large amount of THC/HHC/THC-B vaporized in a box mod.
• ~50mg of intranasal ice.
• 30mg of noopept earlier, mostly gone by now though.
• About 600mg of caffeine so far, and by the gods do I want another 200mg tablet.

Considering adding (one or two of these, not all):

• 1-2.5mg of Etizolam, or 200-600ug of Phenazolam.
• Maybe another 40 (even up to 80)mg of memantine.
• My serotonergic tolerance is through the goddamn roof, ruling those out. I also need no more ice, had more than enough already.
• Gabapentin or mirogabalin intranasally.
• Noopept intranasally or phenylpiracetam orally.
• Bromonordiazepam.
• Promethazine.
• Vaporized MDMB-5F-PINACA (aka 5F-ADB).

We will see how tonight goes. If I was tolerance free, I'd have built today around an LSD/DOB mix I've been scheming on doing, but I'll be tolerance free just in time for Beltane. Perhaps that would be a fitting day for the combination, who knows. Might do LSD + DOB, then as the acid wears off take 80mg of memantine to ride out the DOB.

Sheesh 600mg caffeine on top of meth would make me anxious due to all the overstimulation, did you take it spread out or all at once?

 

[Esperighanto]

Sheesh 600mg caffeine on top of meth would make me anxious due to all the overstimulation, did you take it spread out or all at once?

The caffeine was over about 4 hours, the ice was over maybe 6 hours. I am super caffeine dependent, and to be honest I don't know if I've ever experienced anxiety even when I've been fired upon by people and all that. My suspicions are that the brain damage I sustained as a young teenager renders my anxiety response to be goofed up in some way or another, idrk.

 

[TheLightBringer]

The caffeine was over about 4 hours, the ice was over maybe 6 hours. I am super caffeine dependent, and to be honest I don't know if I've ever experienced anxiety even when I've been fired upon by people and all that. My suspicions are that the brain damage I sustained as a young teenager renders my anxiety response to be goofed up in some way or another, idrk.

Oh wow, Im somewhat jealous if thats the only consequence you suffered I guess haha.

Would you say its made you resistant to all types of stress, anxiety and worry too or do you still experience those in other forms?

 

[Esperighanto]

Oh wow, Im somewhat jealous if thats the only consequence you suffered I guess haha.

Would you say its made you resistant to all types of stress, anxiety and worry too or do you still experience those in other forms?

Nah I can still experience stress, but the way that people describe anxiety as their brain stressing them over hypotheticals seems like some psychotic shit to me personally, I simply choose not to do that, though that also feels like telling a depressed person "I simply choose to be happy". I have no capacity for visualization nor a voice of thought, the way people describe hearing their own voice and the sort also sounds like some crazy shit to me personally. I definitely worry significantly less than most.

 

[Sp4rky]

Nah I can still experience stress, but the way that people describe anxiety as their brain stressing them over hypotheticals seems like some psychotic shit to me personally, I have no capacity for visualization nor a voice of thought, the way people describe hearing their own voice and the sort also sounds like some crazy shit to me personally.

Damnn it’s honestly fascinating hearing that some people are the complete opposite of my brain.

I do lowkey agree that it can sound psychotic trying to describe anxious or honestly just thoughts in general.

For me it’s the combination of ADHD producing lots of thoughts and moodswings where each thought is kinda like a different stream of thoughts. Not as in literal different voices, they’re all my own thoughts, but all kinda overlap and form one giant noisy radio, especially when in-between moodswings or triggered in some way .—.

Panic attacks specifically for me are mostly unstoppable, but it depends on the scale of the situation and to a certain degree I can ‘control’ my thoughts, as in choosing to not listen. Sometimes my entire body will just go into a panic attack however.

Do you experience the physical symptoms of emotions like stress at all or not? No need to answer if that’s too personal, I’m just curious, cuz for me emotions often feel very intense, not just mentally, but physically too. I get sharp pains in my chest when I feel sad or with anxiety specifically, it’s hyperventilating that usually sets a panic attack in motion.

Whole ass ramble whoops, OT: debating going out, but tbh I feel like staying in and having a little trip by myself, so will be trying the DMXE I got quite a while ago and lowkey forgot I had.

- 40mg DMXE orally

Will see what that does, have heard these tablets are likely under-dosed, so might dose more later, but first I’ll just trial with this amount.

 

[Esperighanto]

Do you experience the physical symptoms of emotions like stress at all or not? No need to answer if that’s too personal, I’m just curious, cuz for me emotions often feel very intense, not just mentally, but physically too. I get sharp pains in my chest when I feel sad or with anxiety specifically, it’s hyperventilating that usually sets a panic attack in motion.

Yeah I don't get anything like what you mentioned here (chest pains & hyperventilation) but I can push renal spikes intentionally, though they also happen involuntarily when I've been shot at, been in very serious violent conflicts, one time where I fell down the face of a foothill-sized mountain and slid about 80' towards a river I would have died in (ripcurrents), thankfully digging my hands and feet into the small amount of loamy substrate on that hillside stopped me maybe 3' or so from drowning in the Kennebec river, back in Maine. Near car accidents have done this too. It's that thing where time gets slow but you're not moving any slower, it's like your brain buys you some extra time (speed through time maybe?) to handle a situation. Some people can only involuntarily experience it, but my family taught me how to induce those intentionally at a young age as sometimes that can be a make-or-break deal for a serious situation. None of us experience anxiety, and we all have meditated pretty much our entire lives and I suspect that the way we were taught to control our cognition from childhood up may be related to all of this, as well as why I haven't ever had a bad trip or anything like that, because nobody is in control of my cognition other than me.

The things you go through internally seem super difficult dude, I hope you find some respite from it some day.

 

[Sp4rky]

- 40mg DMXE orally

Will see what that does, have heard these tablets are likely under-dosed, so might dose more later, but first I’ll just trial with this amount.

EDIT:

- small line of K

Well that was uhh a trip. I still feel as tho I am melting and I’m going to bed rn, but message for me tomorrow or I guess today already??

Pls make a trip report or at least journal like… first thing in the morning because what did I just experience??? Uhhh yes, goodnight y’all, I am ketamined into oblivion I fear ahaha (in a good way tho, it was a good trip)

 

[latenighter]

Stayed up last night trying Molly for the first time. Wasn't super impressed. Probably bunk the dose next time

Want some good sleep tonight.
1mg Xanax
60mg 7oh.
Threw in .1 of IV ket cause it was there.
1/2 bottle of tequila.

Feeling pretty chill but the buzz is wearing off.

 

[Sp4rky]

Some people can only involuntarily experience it, but my family taught me how to induce those intentionally at a young age as sometimes that can be a make-or-break deal for a serious situation. None of us experience anxiety, and we all have meditated pretty much our entire lives and I suspect that the way we were taught to control our cognition from childhood up may be related to all of this, as well as why I haven't ever had a bad trip or anything like that, because nobody is in control of my cognition other than me.

Ohh hmm that’s very interesting to hear actually. I’d definitely say that the way our parents raise us when it comes to dealing with emotions and also probably genetics to a certain degree, can definitely be an explanation for those differences yeah.

Fascinating how you describe that ‘fight or flight’ response I suppose? I’m not even sure if panic ever included that for me. In the moments I’ve been in dire situations I just black out near completely and find out afterwards what I did to get out of it, so I’ve never really experienced that state consciously I think.

The things you go through internally seem super difficult dude, I hope you find some respite from it some day.

Hmm I hope so too, still figuring out what ‘respite’ would mean to me. To a certain degree I think it’s beautiful to experience so intensely, it has brought a lot of creativity and authenticity into my life, but it’s definitely a massive struggle in other ways.

For me tripping, especially on dissociatives like ketamine, has been really interesting in this aspect, as it disconnects me from my body and thoughts, so I can observe in a calmer, more controlled environment.

I don’t yet have enough experience tripping / with psychedelics to say I’ve never had a bad trips either, but I feel like so far I haven’t, but for different reasons than you seem to have.

For me a trip can be incredibly emotional, overwhelming and intense, but because I experience high intensity on a daily basis, I’ve already seen and experienced a lot of thoughts or concepts, etc… that come to me during trip.

Or sometimes I feel like there’s always a part of my brain that stays sober. No matter how much MDMA I’ve taken, there always seems to be that small part of my thoughts / brain that observes it all and knows exactly what thoughts, feelings and actions are fully created by the drug, are mine but amplified or are fully mine, if that makes sense?

Honestly I think it’s fascinating to hear how different people can have totally different internal landscapes. Makes me wonder about the neurological differences too. Like I have found I’m very sensitive to psychedelics when it comes to dosage. 6mg of 2C-B will have me tripping pretty hard when by myself for example, so seeing other on here dosing 200+ mg is very interesting haha

I appreciate your post and hearing your perspective I hope to one day maybe study phenomena like this, I love biology and chemistry.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

Stayed up last night trying Molly for the first time. Wasn't super impressed. l

something was certainly wrong because mdma is probably one of the most impressive drugs out there in terms of raw euphoria.

it’s really sensitive to a lot of medications, if you’re on various psych meds it’s won’t work.

also if the dose isn’t over a threshold you don’t really feel anything. it’s sort of an all or nothing drug

if you’ve done cocaine recently it won’t work (that well)

otherwise you probably just got shitty cathinones unless you tested it with various different tests to determine it was mdma

 

[Esperighanto]

otherwise you probably just got shitty cathinones unless you tested it with various different tests to determine it was mdma

Idk, I've used lab tested MDMA countless times before and been underwhelmed, it just doesn't land right for some people. Comparing the euphoria of MDMA to LSD, 25C-NBOMe or DOM for me is ridiculous, but I also suspect it just comes down to individual variances in neurochemistry.

 

[TheLightBringer]

Idk, I've used lab tested MDMA countless times before and been underwhelmed, it just doesn't land right for some people. Comparing the euphoria of MDMA to LSD, 25C-NBOMe or DOM for me is ridiculous, but I also suspect it just comes down to individual variances in neurochemistry.

True that, id say the majority will find MDMA amazing but I have a friend who never liked it at all despite trying some pure tested MDMA he said the drug felt super dirty to him and ruined the high.

I agree with you that 5HT2A agonists give the most powerful serotonergic euphoria IME.

 

[Sp4rky]

something was certainly wrong because mdma is probably one of the most impressive drugs out there in terms of raw euphoria.

it’s really sensitive to a lot of medications, if you’re on various psych meds it’s won’t work.

also if the dose isn’t over a threshold you don’t really feel anything. it’s sort of an all or nothing drug

if you’ve done cocaine recently it won’t work (that well)

otherwise you probably just got shitty cathinones unless you tested it with various different tests to determine it was mdma

For sure, agree with all of these. MDMA is in my opinion one of the most beautiful drugs experience wise, but it’s a drug you really need to carefully plan your usage with to get the most out of it and keep it fun.

Of course everyone’s brain chemistry is different, some drugs just don’t click for people, but I can give you some tips & harm reduction advice from my personal experiences:

- get your shit tested if you can!! with MDMA especially important in my opinion.

Especially with pressed xtc pills, the dosage and chance of other drugs being in a pill can vary dramatically on where you live as well. Like here in the Netherlands most (>95% I believe?) of xtc pills contain just MDMA, but in the US I’ve heard a lot of stories of shit sold as MDMA containing meth, cathinones, etc…

Dosage wise as well. Xtc pills usually range anywhere from 65mg to 300mg, which is uhh.. yeah..I definitely got saved from doing way too much by getting my pills tested.

- Ideally staying sober for 12-24 hours before taking MDMA, as drugs like benzos and most uppers can significantly reduce MDMA effects. Though this does vary a lot per person, I do love combining a bit of 2-mmc or 3-mmc, but found that speed and meth would drastically reduce the empathogenic effects of MDMA while boosting it’s stimulant qualities.

- set and setting is also a very important one, with all drugs, but for MDMA it can make a huge difference, at least in my experience. I’d say experiment with what you gravitate towards when on molly.

Personally I love raves that have good chilling places or a terrain to explore. Inter switching dancing as if I AM the music and having deep conversations with friends, hugging, kissing, anything sensory is fun, sex too ofc.

- and the biggest advice is to leave at least
4-6 weeks in between uses. MDMA is incredibly taxing on your serotonin system and the effects will diminish for some forever with frequent use. There’s probably also cross-tolerance with other serotonin releasing drugs / amphetamines.

For me after months of multi daily stim use, I found MDMA’s effects very much weakened, so avoiding binging other uppers at least a week before using MDMA again should also help.

Hope your next time can be less disappointing! I myself have found MDMA one of the best drugs in the way it can be incredible for deepening friendships snd creativity, but everyone’s different when it comes to drug of choice ofc

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Ok, I was REALLY chasing the high today with Mitragynin:
475 mg within 5 hours plus
300 mg Pregabalin
25 mg dph
7,5 g Kratom
50 mg cbd
10 mg Diazepam -
Got a 20 minute nod until my kids demanded attention - and it's fucking gone!!! Can't chase the high with Mitragyninoids I guess. Didn't work with 7 oh nor does it with pure Mitragynin...
Jeez I wasted quite a bit of money for this today and it's pure disappointment ...
Should I say at least I was completely functional to go shopping with the bike
Man I hate this, could never happen with standard opioids - every redose is pure waste!!!
Guess I gotta get the lesson that my tol is spoiled completely for anything now it seems

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

took a bunch of methadone and diazepam whatever was in my bag not sure but not a ton.

gonna take more diazepam so i can achieve the ultimate peak of the high i chase.

sleep. nothingness. dreamless unconscious darkness and silence. i can’t wait to be dead if it’s anything like being unconscious.

 

[streaM Freak]

Grateful and proud at times to be sober from hard drugs for some years now (and gambling which I am proud of), but I am celebrating softly before I start a new job on Monday:

Hot coffee, 25mg ephedrine (Bronkaid), both 30 min ago. And picking up some bud (weed / "cannabis") right now, to smoke in about 2 hours. Haven't smoked in almost a year. Probably my longest dry period ever.

Maybe I'll read on some physics stuff. Or learn some Sanskrit grammar. But I'll probably end up listening to music and falling asleep

 

[Sp4rky]

Wednesday and half of yesterday were pretty good days spent smoking joints all day with my best friend and drinking apple cider & vodka.

Wanted to do a little ‘test’ regarding my body’s reaction to alchohol and I have only a fraction left of my previous really bad hangovers I’d get. Mostly just my stomach and digestive system that gets upset, other than that no hangover.

Honestly felt good just having the more ‘typical’ drug use if people my age and being around my best friend always leaves me feeling better mentally

Bit of IC-26 last evening, but will be trying to take a break from that this weekend.

Today so far:

- 1 line methamphetamine
- couple lines of speed
- little leftover joint

Productive day so far and working on a costume for a party tonight. Rave with friends tomorrow, exited about that as I haven’t seen my rave friends in a while.

Hope y’all having a good start of the weekend

 

[PtahTek]

not sure....
guess thats an answer, no...?
feelin alright alright alright

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

just popped 45 mg methadone and 40 mg diazepam with a 10 mg edible.

if it’s not enough i’ll take more.

it wasn’t enough so o had to take more of both.

can’t even feel euphoric or high for fucks sake