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Zopiclone- how long until my tolerance goes away?

canadianpeduser

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I’ve been on it for years and I find if I skip like 5 days then take like 4-6 of them I get a good buzz from them. The 7.5 mg tablets of course. Just wondering how to get the most out of them. I’m at a point where I can take like 10 after 48 hours of not taking any and it does basically nothing. Just tired of wasting them. I don’t need them for sleep just like having them on hand for getting a buzz
 
Hey @canadianpeduser :)

The short answer is that your tolerance is likely never going to return to the level at which you started. It just doesn´t work like that. I would consider reading a bit about the ¨Kindling Effect¨. This is the phenomena that describes the non-linear nature of dependence and withdrawal. This phenomenon is written specifically in reference to sedative/hypnotic substances. Although it´s not relevant for you right now, this phenomenon applies to Opioids in almost the exact same way.

Sedative/hypnotic is an informal designation for several drugs that exert their effects generally through agonism of the GABA receptors. This means:

Ethyl Alcohol
Benzodiazepines
Barbiturates
Z-Drugs
GHB

Zolpidem (Ambien) is a z-drug. Z-drugs are closely related to Benzodiazepines. They are perhaps best-described as Benzodiazepines specialized for their potent hypnotic effects.

Tolerance/Dependence/Withdrawal is not a linear phenomenon like you might expect. It´s probably easiest to imagine your history with this drug as more of a rubber band/elastic. It seems at first to be able to stretch in and out infinitely. However, after a certain point, the elastic stretches too far and starts to degrade. Maybe you take a tolerance break. You look at the rubber band and it looks just like it did before your dependence. Then you try stretching it out and you quickly realize those tears are still present, just hidden.

I know a lot of people will tell you to take a tolerance break and everything will be able to return to the good old days. I have just never understood it to work that way for anyone. When I hear someone say they´ve taken a drug to the extent that it no longer effects them and they are needing to even ask the question, they´re already over the proverbial event horizon in which they are either going to stop using the drug or continue taking higher doses with increasingly diminished returns.

If you did something more drastic, like maybe taking them once a week, maybe twice at the very, very most, it´ś possible that you could reclaim some of that positive benefit that you´re after. You´re unlikely to every be able to use Zolpidem on an even semi-regular basis without experiencing this same frustration... and it typically just gets worse the more you keep fighting it.

My honest recommendation would be to find something else to take its place. Cannabis would be my go-to. Everyone is different. If you´re looking for something to relax you, there are options that work upon different mechanisms. Let me know if this makes sense and/or you want advice on other potential options to take the place of your Zolpidem.
 
I take it,lowest dose and I fall asleep within an hour,on going for a few years,is it the same as ambien?
 
I appreciate the responses. I’m also prescribed 40 mg of diazepam per day. I try to switch back and forth between the two but yeah it’s like at least a week I have to wait without any zopi before I really feel that euphoria im seeking. Don’t get me wrong the diazepam is great. I am thinking of stocking up on my 6 months of repeats then asking the dr to switch me to nitrazepam. He just googles stuff on the spot and google says it’s equivalent mg to mg so I’m hoping he will add one more 10 mg dose and switch me to the nitrazepam instead. I know from personal experience they are much stronger but shorter acting. Hence asking for the extra dose. It sucks I finally found a dr to give me everything I want but now the pills seem to barely work
 
I take it,lowest dose and I fall asleep within an hour,on going for a few years,is it the same as ambien?
Close, ambien is the US version which is technically zolpidem . I’ve tried them as well but I preferred the zopiclone
 
Ambien (Zolpidem) 10mg helps me sleep for 2-3hrs. I switched to Lunesta (Eszopiclone) 3mg. Both are Non-Benzodiazepine Z-drugs. Lunesta 3mg equals Valium 10mg. Since your on 40mg of Valium, this could be the issue of achieving the goals for Ambien.

Lunesta has a longer half-life, it is stronger, the onset maybe 5 minutes longer than Ambien, and Lunesta will work longer than Ativan in long-term treatment of insomnia.

Z-drugs typically say meant to take for a short period of time or rotate. Benzos say the same thing. In some cases that is true.

I have been on Lunesta 3mg going on 5 years and it still works well. I also add Clonidine, Valium, Vistaril PAM, and Cyclobenzaprine to for Insomnia treatment and chronic severe Dystonia
 
Hey @canadianpeduser :)

The short answer is that your tolerance is likely never going to return to the level at which you started. It just doesn´t work like that. I would consider reading a bit about the ¨Kindling Effect¨. This is the phenomena that describes the non-linear nature of dependence and withdrawal. This phenomenon is written specifically in reference to sedative/hypnotic substances. Although it´s not relevant for you right now, this phenomenon applies to Opioids in almost the exact same way.

Sedative/hypnotic is an informal designation for several drugs that exert their effects generally through agonism of the GABA receptors. This means:

Ethyl Alcohol
Benzodiazepines
Barbiturates
Z-Drugs
GHB

Zolpidem (Ambien) is a z-drug. Z-drugs are closely related to Benzodiazepines. They are perhaps best-described as Benzodiazepines specialized for their potent hypnotic effects.

Tolerance/Dependence/Withdrawal is not a linear phenomenon like you might expect. It´s probably easiest to imagine your history with this drug as more of a rubber band/elastic. It seems at first to be able to stretch in and out infinitely. However, after a certain point, the elastic stretches too far and starts to degrade. Maybe you take a tolerance break. You look at the rubber band and it looks just like it did before your dependence. Then you try stretching it out and you quickly realize those tears are still present, just hidden.

I know a lot of people will tell you to take a tolerance break and everything will be able to return to the good old days. I have just never understood it to work that way for anyone. When I hear someone say they´ve taken a drug to the extent that it no longer effects them and they are needing to even ask the question, they´re already over the proverbial event horizon in which they are either going to stop using the drug or continue taking higher doses with increasingly diminished returns.

If you did something more drastic, like maybe taking them once a week, maybe twice at the very, very most, it´ś possible that you could reclaim some of that positive benefit that you´re after. You´re unlikely to every be able to use Zolpidem on an even semi-regular basis without experiencing this same frustration... and it typically just gets worse the more you keep fighting it.

My honest recommendation would be to find something else to take its place. Cannabis would be my go-to. Everyone is different. If you´re looking for something to relax you, there are options that work upon different mechanisms. Let me know if this makes sense and/or you want advice on other potential options to take the place of your Zolpidem.
It is actually zopiclone (very close chemically of course) , I wonder if I got zolpidem from my source if it would be more potent
 
Oh hey @canadianpeduser my bad regarding the name confusion. The Z-Drugs are all remarkably similar and cross-tolerant with one another. It would be extremely unlikely that just switching to another Z-Drug at an equipotent dose would cause a significant change in your situation. It´s not something that I feel is really worth pursuing, The answer is not in higher dosages or different analogs man. If you need relief/sedation, I would recommend exploring outside the realm of Z-Drugs as it appears you´ve already spent yourself on those. You could try using something like Clonidine (Catapres), maybe a Gabapentinoid, Cannabis... the list goes on. If you are in need of relief and are unable to stop the trajectory of upward movement with the Z-Drugs, then I would highly recommend trying something different. If you want/need more suggestions, I´m here for ya.
 
Oh hey @canadianpeduser my bad regarding the name confusion. The Z-Drugs are all remarkably similar and cross-tolerant with one another. It would be extremely unlikely that just switching to another Z-Drug at an equipotent dose would cause a significant change in your situation. It´s not something that I feel is really worth pursuing, The answer is not in higher dosages or different analogs man. If you need relief/sedation, I would recommend exploring outside the realm of Z-Drugs as it appears you´ve already spent yourself on those. You could try using something like Clonidine (Catapres), maybe a Gabapentinoid, Cannabis... the list goes on. If you are in need of relief and are unable to stop the trajectory of upward movement with the Z-Drugs, then I would highly recommend trying something different. If you want/need more suggestions, I´m here for ya.
I appreciate you brother. Well I’m prescribed 2 x 7.5 mg tablets of zopiclone daily which they tell me is the max dose.( but I have a source to order them 300 at a time pharmacy grade for about a buck a piece domestically over e transfer. So I do that once in a while as well. I love the buzz I used to get before bed after a joint. It’s like a nice Valium high.(an im not talking about the shitty generics) lol. I actually am also prescribed 40 mg daily of diazepam. But was going to ask my dr to switch my diazepam for mogadon instead. Since it’s shorter half life and out of the system sooner I was going to ask him to up the dose as well. To be honest I’m looking for a way to juggle between the diazepam, mogadon, and zopiclone, some klonopin and some Xanax ir 1mg. The diazepam, Xanax and klonopin I have access to an international source who ships to Canada with legit pharmacy meds. Been good to go so far with a couple of orders. They ship from Portugal and only accept btc but you can’t beat the list and the prices with this source. Hoping my next order next week goes smoothly. So the extra (120) diazepam, the (30) rivotril, and the (120) Xanax IRs I’m getting I’m hoping to be able to juggle between them to be able to maintain a tolerance. Take days in between with taking nothing of course. Sorry for the rant but , hey! Let me know what ya think.
 
Hey again @canadianpeduser :)

If you´re askin my opinion, I would absolutely refrain from ordering Benzodiazepines over the internet. In fact, I would do my best to forget that such a thing is even a possibility. If you respect my opinion at all, I have to tell you, ordering Benzodiazepines in bulk over the internet is a known stop on this bus route. You´re not the first and won´t be the last. They´re cheap, the risk is relatively nil and then you can use as much as you want without worry. That is the belief most people have when they reach this point.

Getting 300 Benzodiazepine pills is the quickest, surest way to end up in a very, very bad situation. You have to understand, if you can order these pills once, if you are willing to do it once in the service of chasing a high, what do you think your move will be when you run out? Will you say, ¨well, I guess it´s time to stop now¨? No, you´re likely gonna order more and continue with your tolerance.

Given that you´re already experiencing the angst that comes with lack of satisfaction due to tolerance, I feel I can predict how this would play out. You´re gonna get the pills, binge heavily on them until they run out; I´d give it 2-3 weeks maximum. It´s so common that it´s practically a trope: a person suddenly has access to their DOC in bulk. In this case, it´s Benzodiazepines. They decide they´re gonna cut loose and see how fucked up they can get. They then black out. This then commences 2-3 weeks of being relatively blacked out the entire time until you run out of pills, which will likely happen all of the sudden as you´re not keeping track of your stock.

You´re then going to have a massive Benzodiazepine tolerance in which you will likely not be able to experience any effects at all aside from an uncomfortable feeling of mental and physical numbness. You then begin a cycle of taking incredibly high doses trying to get one more really good high in before you quit. You black out again and repeat the process. It´s not as if ¨experience¨ with Benzodiazepines makes on immune to the common pitfalls of the drug. People who use Benzodiazepines all the time, including the guy who did two years in the state pen for robbing a lady´s house while blackd out on Xanax, tell themselves ¨well, that was fucked, need to really make sure I don´t black out again¨ only to lose control and black out again. You become dependent upon doses of Benzodiazepines in which you are not satisfied unless you get to the point when you´re blacking out.

Then you eventually run out of steam for whatever reason. You forget to order; script runs out... you´re hit. Your life becomes a cycle of numbness punctuated by moments of sheer terror: witdrawal. Just like an Opioid addict, your relief from the misery of withdrawal substitutes for the high you once desired. It is too painful to really tell yourself ¨I don´t get high anymore. I´ll never get high again¨ so you keep putting your DOC on a pedestal despite it destroying you.

I know people are going to say I´m fear mongering. I´m telling you man, I´ve been doing this a long time, both in my real life and on Bluelight. This decision will not lead to anything positive for you or your life. If you really want to fix the problem, you need to fucking dig deep, BELIEVE that the only way out is through tapering and begin to do the hard work. The hard work I´m talking about doesn´t go away. It just gets harder. You have the opportunity to get out of this relatively unscathed. Take it.

40mg Diazepam (Valium) along with your dose of Zopiclone puts you at about a 4 on a scale of 10. If we´re only talking about prescribed dosages, this puts you at about a 7. For those only aware with Alprazolam (Xanax), Clonazepam (Klonopin), this dose is equal to roughly 2mg of either of these two.

Z-Drugs, so named because they all start with a ¨Z¨ are highly cross-tolerant with Benzodiazepines. They are essentially Benzodiazepines that have been chosen for their potent hypnotic effects and short duration of action. It is not a perfect system, but there are conversion ratios that exist for these two classes.

5mg Diazepam = 7.5mg Zopiclone (Imovane) = 10mg Zolpidem (Ambien) = 3.75mg Eszopiclone (Lunesta)

Everyone is different. I, of course am not a doctor. I will say, for the average person without any strange genetic anomalies affecting drug metabolism, this quantity of sedative/hypnotic drugs should be enough for a person to get by on. Anyone who would tell me they´re taking this, that the effects have waned and that they´re now seeking out more Benzodiazepines would cause me to say the same exact thing.

The answer is in moderation dude. I know it´s hard. You´ve gotta resist the temptation that´s calling out to you right now. Nothing good will come from ordering these large quantities of Benzodiazepines. I can guarantee that.

What we need to do is come up with a reasonable schedule to help you reduce your intake. We can do it very slowly, so slow that you hardly even notice it. Once we are able to get your dose lowered by say, 25%, then we can start reducing the frequency of usage. If you want these drugs to be at your disposal for the long-term, you need to immediately develop discipline in yourself. You should ideally only be using these substances twice per week. Any more than that puts you on a long-term trajectory to tolerance and insolvency.

We can talk about using Volumetric dosing to cut your doses by minute amounts, slowly, over time. We can also talk about alternatives to sedative/hypnotics for dealing with your anxiety and insomnia. @Allylbenzene posted a really awesome resource in another thread all about supplements and such that can help a person relax and recover naturally. I might suggest using a heavy dose of Cannabis oil on nights when you´re not using the sedatives.

Clonidine (Catapres) - This is something you really need to at least try. This is great for helping initiate and maintain sleep. It is non-addictive, as it produces no significant psychological effects. It lowers blood pressure and to a lesser extent, heart rate. This lessening of tension leads to a somatic loop that convinces a person they are relaxed. This in turn relieves psychological tension in a secondary fashion.

Gabapentinoids - These include Gabapentin (Neurontin), Pregabalin (Lyrica) and Phenibut (OTC Supplement) among others. They are somewhat cross-tolerant with sedative hypnotics, yet different enough that they can be utilized as a comfort medication. I would advise keeping the doses as low as possible and absolutely not using them for longer than two weeks. These are another medication that will help you sleep and mitigate anxiety, hopefully allowing you to use less sedative/hypnotics.

Ramelteon (Rozerem) - This is an analog of Melatonin that is more potent and more effective. It could be a useful cherry on top of the pharmaceutical Sundae we are crafting.

This is just a preliminary post to give you an idea of what we are working with here. Take it all in and make a decision for how you will move forward. I and everyone else here will help you the whole way. Decide to do something good for yourself man. This shit is only going to take everything you love if you continue down this path.
 
@Allylbenzene posted a really awesome resource in another thread all about supplements and such that can help a person relax and recover naturally.

The updated post is here. To clarify, it's designed to reset drug tolerances, repair any accumulated damage and actively protect from a drugs harmful effects. It uses purely OTC items which are inexpensive ... and zero experimental or weird drugs/peptides.

I don’t need them for sleep just like having them on hand for getting a buzz

Most of the GABAergic, opioidergic, dopaminergic, glutaminergic and general sedatives I mentioned in the recovery "guide" should give a buzz without causing unnecessary harm. Imo they more sustainable options than a Z drug.
 
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I appreciate the time and energy placed into the discussion so thanks for that; in regards to @Keif' Richards’ well detailed presumption about what may happen I can fully say I’ve been down that road in the past, usually on top of street drugs back then. I’ve been off fent an other street drugs (mainly IV cocaine and crack) for a while now and I have deeply and heavily weighed the consequences of becoming physically dependent to a substance again. Even with my diazepam script I may take them 3 days per week at most currently. You’re probably hitting the nail on the head in most of your post, so I’m not gonna display some delusion that I have complete control over it especially with my history as a heavy addict. The thing is; I kinda am just able to do it currently. I am also in the middle of a court case where in the end I may be getting time or house arrest. So I am allowed to have benzos/weed in my system. When I did order in the past I used a solid pharm grade source. There were a night or two of black outs for sure back then. I’m currently leagues ahead in my life now than I was using the hard stuff. And I don’t want to fuck it up especially since everything in my life is slowly falling into place. I’ve placed a couple of orders like these in the past and I wanna say it was usually about like 80-85% good, meaning no cash or consequences. Also the source is pretty fuckin solid so I know what I’m getting always which is more than many can say. I do want to mention that I appreciate the input and I will probably check in down the road after it comes and see how things go.
 
Hey @canadianpeduser I´m glad it meant a little something to you. We´re all your friends man. I think you know where I stand on all of this. Hopefully, your court case ends up relatively in your favor. I can only imagine the strain that would put on me. Just keep pushing yourself man. Every moment where you have the pill in your hand and you instead put it back in the bottle or cut it in half, that´s progress.
 
Clonidine (Catapres) - This is something you really need to at least try. This is great for helping initiate and maintain sleep. It is non-addictive, as it produces no significant psychological effects. It lowers blood pressure and to a lesser extent, heart rate. This lessening of tension leads to a somatic loop that convinces a person they are relaxed. This in turn relieves psychological tension in a secondary fashion.
Yes Indeed. Clonidine 0.9-1.2mg daily keeps me happy. ** Do not try at home, professionals only **
 
Yes Indeed. Clonidine 0.9-1.2mg daily keeps me happy. ** Do not try at home, professionals only **
Yes. I do have a script for clonidine and when I do have any discomfort they help a ton. Also the dr I have currently is pretty solid and hasn’t given me any issues when I ask for things- of course with some solid, reasonable symptoms I’m suffering while maintaining my recovery/being clean off street drugs. I mean imo/ime weed and benzos are soft drugs. I know physical dependence plus the insane w/d from benzos places it higher on the risk scale. I don’t let myself take my benzos everyday. I mean diazepam has a long ass half life so I may have a slight physical dependence but 3-4 days without I’m usually 90% fine. Maybe the odd day where my appetite isn’t there or I feel more anxiety than usual. It was extremely tough getting the right dr to even get diazepam prescribed. They always see my history and consider it to be drug seeking. Like I’d be asking for painkillers if that was the case. Which was my REAL DOC. I respect the man and we always have good talks when I see him once a month to do my sample and get my Subblocade. I’ve had 4 months of clean pee tests. I had a slip at new years with coke but most of last year I stayed off the shit so it’s been on a positive trajectory for a couple years now. I can’t say enough how much the sub shot changed the game for me. No withdrawals, no cravings, after years of being a fent addict I can and have walked by people smoking or shooting it or walk into a public bathroom and that burning fent smell any user can recognize used to set me off big time. Would lead to severe cravings and even going up to said user on the street and ask to buy some. Methadone and suboxone would work temporarily but i would always try to play the system and skip doses so I could get high a couple times a week. It’s now been over 2 years since I’ve touched an opiate (besides the bupe in the ORT ofc). And no joke I was a low bottom homeless street addict jumping from shelter to shelter using meth coke fent crack pills plus fucking the methadone and the kadian and the dilaudids and Ritalin script like, it was just a mess. I thought I never would have gotten out of that life but here I am. The legal stuff happened during the end of ‘24 during 2 bad IV coke slips. Straight instant psychosis these days I can’t use stims anymore. It’s not enjoyable in the slightest anymore. So my weed and my Valium , the odd xan or kpin, and the odd mushroom trip. This is all I need these days and the ones around me who matter all know and don’t disapprove. I have definitely changed for the better so they are supportive and luckily still in my corner. When I’m telling you they absolutely shouldn’t be after some of the shit I pulled over the years. Never had a dad around but I have an angel of a mother who understands addiction. I’m sure I’d be dead if I didn’t have her. My woman is also super supportive and non judgmental for somebody who’s never used a street drug so that’s been nice. I’m not where I thought I’d be at 34 years old, but I’m definitely grateful to have any sort of a life at all.

Anyways sorry for the rant. I just wanted to contribute a bit more info after some of the responses and the effort some members put in to help give suggestions. Just a bit of insight from my end.
 
Hey @canadianpeduser :)

The short answer is that your tolerance is likely never going to return to the level at which you started. It just doesn´t work like that. I would consider reading a bit about the ¨Kindling Effect¨. This is the phenomena that describes the non-linear nature of dependence and withdrawal. This phenomenon is written specifically in reference to sedative/hypnotic substances. Although it´s not relevant for you right now, this phenomenon applies to Opioids in almost the exact same way.

Sedative/hypnotic is an informal designation for several drugs that exert their effects generally through agonism of the GABA receptors. This means:

Ethyl Alcohol
Benzodiazepines
Barbiturates
Z-Drugs
GHB

Zolpidem (Ambien) is a z-drug. Z-drugs are closely related to Benzodiazepines. They are perhaps best-described as Benzodiazepines specialized for their potent hypnotic effects.

Tolerance/Dependence/Withdrawal is not a linear phenomenon like you might expect. It´s probably easiest to imagine your history with this drug as more of a rubber band/elastic. It seems at first to be able to stretch in and out infinitely. However, after a certain point, the elastic stretches too far and starts to degrade. Maybe you take a tolerance break. You look at the rubber band and it looks just like it did before your dependence. Then you try stretching it out and you quickly realize those tears are still present, just hidden.

I know a lot of people will tell you to take a tolerance break and everything will be able to return to the good old days. I have just never understood it to work that way for anyone. When I hear someone say they´ve taken a drug to the extent that it no longer effects them and they are needing to even ask the question, they´re already over the proverbial event horizon in which they are either going to stop using the drug or continue taking higher doses with increasingly diminished returns.

If you did something more drastic, like maybe taking them once a week, maybe twice at the very, very most, it´ś possible that you could reclaim some of that positive benefit that you´re after. You´re unlikely to every be able to use Zolpidem on an even semi-regular basis without experiencing this same frustration... and it typically just gets worse the more you keep fighting it.

My honest recommendation would be to find something else to take its place. Cannabis would be my go-to. Everyone is different. If you´re looking for something to relax you, there are options that work upon different mechanisms. Let me know if this makes sense and/or you want advice on other potential options to take the place of your Zolpidem.
I used it daily for years and it affected me loads at first. Then I found one in my pocket about 10 months after I'd quit. Took it and nothing! Thought I was degraded maybe but this could well explain it
 
@highabdl I'm not trying to get a "bigfoot"-esque conspiracy theory going here. I do have to report on interesting reactions that I have had personally with this drug Zolpidem (Ambien) and really, only with Zolpidem in the past. I will add that I have never used other Z-Drugs.

I never took Zolpidem for sleep. I was taking it to get fucked up. I had taken it a handful of times in my life and as a teenager, it was kind of fun so I thought I would repeat it. I hadn't taken Zolpidem for at least several weeks at this point. I decide I'm going to go for it and take 40mg Zolpidem and see what happens. The familiar dream state produced by waking use of Zolpidem was just barely present. I wasn't at all fucked up. I sat there waiting for the full effect. Nothing happened for hours.

Next thing I know, I'm waking up with a splitting headache and what is similar to a bad hangover from Alcohol. I immediately came to the conclusion that I had gotten bad pills. Being a hopeless junkie, I thought it couldn't hurt to repeat the experiment though. I ended up taking 20mg Zolpidem and it hit me hard,. just like normal and I went right to sleep. There was no hangover.

I would go on to use Zolpidem maybe half a dozen more times in my life. If memory serves, I would say at least 1/3 were repeats of that same weird reaction to the drug. To this day I have no idea what the explanation is. I just thought I would throw that out there.
 
I just wanted to reply to this as I have a stockpile of clonidine as well as sub tabs I’ve been saving up for a while, I am currently waiting for my 120 x purple footballs, 120 x ratio diazepam 10mg, 50 x Roche Valium 10 mg, and 30 x 2mg rivotril. I’m hoping I can alternate between these to be able to catch the buzz m after . lol it’s just to basically chill around the house , hang with the gf. I do smoke weed daily and usually infused high % stuff. These all seem to help. I miss that zopiclone buzz . I can get 3 x 100 mg bottles of 7.5 mg tabs for cheaper than the pharmacy charges from my source. I’ll probably stock up on that after my current parcel arrives. I like having everything on hand. But you hit the nail on the head to practice more self control. Try for minimum dose for desired effect and to purposely skip days . As you said even a half pill less I can put back in the bottle will add up over time. You seem very informed about these matters @Keif' Richards . Hopefully we can converse further about these matters in due time when I’ve received everything I ordered.
The best part of the zopiclone ordering is it’s off the clearnet who accepts e transfer and never takes more than 3 days. A buck a pill can’t really complain right
Oh hey @canadianpeduser my bad regarding the name confusion. The Z-Drugs are all remarkably similar and cross-tolerant with one another. It would be extremely unlikely that just switching to another Z-Drug at an equipotent dose would cause a significant change in your situation. It´s not something that I feel is really worth pursuing, The answer is not in higher dosages or different analogs man. If you need relief/sedation, I would recommend exploring outside the realm of Z-Drugs as it appears you´ve already spent yourself on those. You could try using something like Clonidine (Catapres), maybe a Gabapentinoid, Cannabis... the list goes on. If you are in need of relief and are unable to stop the trajectory of upward movement with the Z-Drugs, then I would highly recommend trying something different. If you want/need more suggestions, I´m here for ya.
 
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