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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 12

chima said:
I miss feeling happy when riding a bicycle, please does it ever come back?
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Recovery seems to happen at a different pace for everyone. For me, emotions have been slowly coming back. A few days ago I was even able to cry to a sad song — it felt like a small breakthrough.

I really hope that feeling comes back for you too 🤍

I also miss sports and my hobbies, so I understand that feeling
 
Psychedelics are known to promote neuroplasticity, so maybe microdosing ketamine could help. That’s what I’ve been doing. Although I prefer higher doses, I’ve found that even smaller doses seem to have benefits, especially for people recovering from injections. It feels like a boost that lasts for a week or two. I take Abilify in the morning, and it works well for me. Honestly, ketamine is the only thing that keeps me going right now, because the side effects from receptor blockade are hard to live with. It relieves many of the symptoms caused by the injections. I take about 1 g every month, and I feel much better afterward. I think it’s worth looking into the therapeutic effects of ketamine for people recovering from Xeplion on Grok and not chatgpt since it condemns every drug and defends all meds.
 
Treedoctor said:
I think body adjusted to this fucking invega, new low dopamine level is the default.

After around 16 months I still don't really feel happy.

I was someone who laughs alot and be happy with small things.

But now I have become someone who can't really enjoy anything and even with really good thing I feel dull emotion.

I just want to scream all day because there is no hope for recovery.

I checked the hormone level for prolactin and testosterone today, the result will be there tormorrow.

Fuck my life.

I really had been so positive about how it would turn out but as time passes I lose all the hope that I will ever feel the same happiness again in my life.

I need to forget all this disappointing things by reading books or watching netflix or writing a novel myself etc.

Only when I forget all this depressing things with those activities I feel like I am alive.

I have become too vulnerable to the worries and thinking.

I sigh all the time but without any intention to sigh. I just can't understand why I am not going back to the normal.

I got new beautiful girlfriend but it is so weird my smile doesn't really come out naturally.

I think my lack of sexual ability that invega destroyed is one of the reason why I feel so depressed these days.

This depression is not really coming from real situaltion, my life is getting back to good line and there is not much reason to be depressed but my brain is so fucked up that even with this positive life, I have to find a reason to be depressed when the reason is just my brain was fried by invega.

Just pills would have been ok. but injection was such a devil. I really want to curse these nurses and doctors who were involved in destroying my life like this.

Take money and anything but destroying brain and mind like this is not something you can recover.

It is too cruel. I can't believe that this isn't a dream. I have to suffer like this all my life until I die.
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Invega Sustenna (and similar drugs) should not exist. So many lives have been damaged by them. And how much time it takes to come back to yourself, to feel like everything is back on track again…

I lost someone I fell in love with at first sight because I could no longer form my thoughts or keep a conversation going😞
 
Treedoctor said:
I think body adjusted to this fucking invega, new low dopamine level is the default.

After around 16 months I still don't really feel happy.

I was someone who laughs alot and be happy with small things.

But now I have become someone who can't really enjoy anything and even with really good thing I feel dull emotion.

I just want to scream all day because there is no hope for recovery.

I checked the hormone level for prolactin and testosterone today, the result will be there tormorrow.

Fuck my life.

I really had been so positive about how it would turn out but as time passes I lose all the hope that I will ever feel the same happiness again in my life.

I need to forget all this disappointing things by reading books or watching netflix or writing a novel myself etc.

Only when I forget all this depressing things with those activities I feel like I am alive.

I have become too vulnerable to the worries and thinking.

I sigh all the time but without any intention to sigh. I just can't understand why I am not going back to the normal.

I got new beautiful girlfriend but it is so weird my smile doesn't really come out naturally.

I think my lack of sexual ability that invega destroyed is one of the reason why I feel so depressed these days.

This depression is not really coming from real situaltion, my life is getting back to good line and there is not much reason to be depressed but my brain is so fucked up that even with this positive life, I have to find a reason to be depressed when the reason is just my brain was fried by invega.

Just pills would have been ok. but injection was such a devil. I really want to curse these nurses and doctors who were involved in destroying my life like this.

Take money and anything but destroying brain and mind like this is not something you can recover.

It is too cruel. I can't believe that this isn't a dream. I have to suffer like this all my life until I die.
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Pills can cause serious long term dance, but they have shorter half-life so your receptors have some “break” between one pill and the other one.

With the injections our receptors never had a real break, they were under siege h24 for months or even a year, this is a completely different level of damage.

Lots of people around quora and reddit claim that recovery it happen between YEARS if you have taken the pills but there is no recovery for the injections.

When I quit quetiapine (seroquel) 400mg XR cold turkey i had insomnia for 2 weeks, panic attacks for 8 months, but the everything healed and came back to normal.

Now i’am 21 months after the last injection and not only i have not healed a shit but instead I developed a new serious sympthom (tinnitus) after 13 months.

life is ruined, this “ wait 2 years it gets better” it’s a bullshit to prevent people from harming themselves, i’am approaching to this time frame but nothing is changing.
 
Treedoctor said:
I was former buddhist in the past before invega but even though I quit being a buddhist myself because invega made me such a "realistic" person who can't think of other things than science.

I quit meditation for long time but from few weeks ago I started meditating a bit just to test something.

It seems like I was getting better and could finally naturally smile.

There is no solution for this f invega with science and I should rely on this alternative solution called meditation and excercise.

I am trying to be really positive here not listening to other peoples negative opinion.

In reality, someone who was injected will never be able to go back to who they were.

But I feel like my life is back for a moment when I meditate. So I got a bit of hope doing that.

I should really work on this seriously even though I don't believe such spiritual things anymore but this is the only hope that I can recover fully and beyond.

We live only one life time and the fact that I ruined this life just causes such a suffocating panic attack everyday.

I need to convince myself that there is cure somewhere but no doctors say such hopeful things so I am the only one who can save me from this hell.

I hope you guys don't lose hope either.

It is very hard to keep the hope I know but there is only one thing we can do. Believing that we can heal eventually.

Because if we lose hope, that is all. Nothing will heal when our mind give up.

I am trying to make this hell experience into something that can make me grow mentally.

I will deny all the assumptions that I will be like this forever.

You know my writing is different after few minutes of meditation.

And my life isn't just my life. I don't want to cause any trouble for my new girl and my family.

I will recover. I will recover. I will recover.

hope you guys find peace in your mind too.

I pray for you.
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As a muslim, I truly value spiritual practices — they really help keep me from falling completely into despair
 
Well I never went to kneel in front of god when i was healthy and normal, i won’t do it now that i’am in agony because this is not how things works, and i’am not a coward.

I don’t belive there is a god, because the bullshit of “we have free will” and “we will be judged”
Don’t make any sense, it’s just a sadistic narcisistig game for the so called god to throw us into this life and then be judged? The audacity and the arrogance.
 
Flynnal said:
How does one get TRT? How does one get truly tested for low T? I thought there were two different tests for checking T levels, and one test is bunk as it doesn't test for free T, only bound T, which doesn't mean much.

I've got a problem where I cannot function, and it could be due to low T.
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Just get tested for testosterone and go from there. Invega and abilify tanked mine
 
asr0101 said:
Hello I feel better at day 25 of my 150mg injection. I can listen to music without actually caring about how much time passes. I enjoyed the whole day and had somewhat of my imagination back . I used to be a heavy maladaptive daydreamer and it has partially returned . I was able to return into the novel in my head and have the characters make some decisions that released dopamine for me .
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so proud of you baby!!!
 
InnerReturn said:
Invega Sustenna (and similar drugs) should not exist. So many lives have been damaged by them. And how much time it takes to come back to yourself, to feel like everything is back on track again…

I lost someone I fell in love with at first sight because I could no longer form my thoughts or keep a conversation going😞
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That god damn Abilify Maintena is what got me holy fuck did that give me awful akathisia worse than any of the others besides Haldol that was awful. Legit thought it was gonna kill me and probably would if stayed in that state too long probably caused me to go into shock. Wonder how many people who had heart attacks on antipsychotics actually had it do to stress from akathisia. Same thing as pain it can kill you from shock by causing your heart rate to skyrocket.
 
Treedoctor said:
It is so fucking depressing when you wake up it is another depressing day without reason.

This is only one life given and I already fucked up hard.

I have to give up thinking about having good time like before.

No romance, No happiness.

Meditation helps but not for really long time.

Doctor told me he is not sure if testosterone injection would do any help.

I need to make sure my prolactine level decreased and dopamine level to normal.

I don't think there is real solution for this in this era.

We all are fucked up so much wasting our lives or we have to try and rely on meditating

I don't want to be depressed and be ranting about this like this.

If you look at my old writings you would know how positive I was thinking about my outcome.

Life is changed to the worst.

Internally I cry all day finding out that there is no solution for this.

Too cruel. How humans can do this cruel things to another human being.

Even losing a leg or arm would have been better than losing your brain like this.

Hopeful thing is your writing ability and imagination came back to normal.

Only bit of hiperventilation and a bit of panic attack, no sexual ability, no libido, no will.

Life is too good blessing to waste like this.

I think about killing myself everyday but I just can't do it, life is just too good.

I still want to love and be loved, achieve things, be stable and travel, watch movies...

It is like you want to die but don't want to die because of hope.

I heard if you start taking testos injection, your sperm reduces to zero over time.

So you have to take a pill to induce your brain to make more testos naturally, while decreasing prolactine level.

This is the only hope that my brain will recover.

But doctor told me getting a treatment for prolactine is hard because it is rare and the test is very conservative and he said they will say I am in normal range.

Fucking modern medicine isn't modern at all and it is so stupid.

Today there will be test result for this two hormones and I hope this is all just mental thing that way I can be sure I will recover.
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Problem is most of the time you gotta tell doctors how to doctor thats how bad medical care has gotten.
 
Treedoctor said:
It is so fucking depressing when you wake up it is another depressing day without reason.

This is only one life given and I already fucked up hard.

I have to give up thinking about having good time like before.

No romance, No happiness.

Meditation helps but not for really long time.

Doctor told me he is not sure if testosterone injection would do any help.

I need to make sure my prolactine level decreased and dopamine level to normal.

I don't think there is real solution for this in this era.

We all are fucked up so much wasting our lives or we have to try and rely on meditating

I don't want to be depressed and be ranting about this like this.

If you look at my old writings you would know how positive I was thinking about my outcome.

Life is changed to the worst.

Internally I cry all day finding out that there is no solution for this.

Too cruel. How humans can do this cruel things to another human being.

Even losing a leg or arm would have been better than losing your brain like this.

Hopeful thing is your writing ability and imagination came back to normal.

Only bit of hiperventilation and a bit of panic attack, no sexual ability, no libido, no will.

Life is too good blessing to waste like this.

I think about killing myself everyday but I just can't do it, life is just too good.

I still want to love and be loved, achieve things, be stable and travel, watch movies...

It is like you want to die but don't want to die because of hope.

I heard if you start taking testos injection, your sperm reduces to zero over time.

So you have to take a pill to induce your brain to make more testos naturally, while decreasing prolactine level.

This is the only hope that my brain will recover.

But doctor told me getting a treatment for prolactine is hard because it is rare and the test is very conservative and he said they will say I am in normal range.

Fucking modern medicine isn't modern at all and it is so stupid.

Today there will be test result for this two hormones and I hope this is all just mental thing that way I can be sure I will recover.
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Sperm production will indeed drop from TRT. However this can be reversed by going off TRT and taking HCG
 
Treedoctor said:
Does TRT really make your libido back to normal like you said before?

No more depression? and does the erection stays?

and have you tried prolactine treatment?
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My libido is now higher then pre invega. It probably hasent been this high since i was 18 and im 44 now. I didnt have depression before TRT but you get alot more energy and i feel great. And ya no problem getting it up

No i have not tried prolactine treatment actually i confess to not knowing really much about it
 
Treedoctor said:
So are you doing TRT all your life?
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Before doing TRT do you research. The sports and image enancing drugs forum on here is pretty good. Like any drug test can have its side effects. Im lucky that i havent gotten any though i would bet that im probably shooting blanks by now. But im not looking to have kids so no big deal
 
Treedoctor said:
Does TRT really make your libido back to normal like you said before?

No more depression? and does the erection stays?

and have you tried prolactine treatment?
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Biochemically speaking, Cabergoline, a drug designed to lower prolactin levels, is a dopamine D2/D3 receptor agonist. It doesn't increase dopamine levels, but mimics its action by binding to and activating the same receptors. Invega Sustenna works in the opposite direction: it occupies those same D2 receptors for a prolonged period of time
 
Hello, im new to the forum. Im currently 1.5 months off xeplion 3 shots. Like others i don’t feel anything not even anxiety but my sleep is good, how long do you think it will take for things to return to normal (I have bipolar affective disorder) i recovered once around a year ago from my first episode of psychosis in about 9 months but I was only on quitiapine then and it came back whilst on quitiapine but then I stopped taking it and almost exactly a year later I had another psychosis from weed withdrawal. Im losing so much weight but I don’t feel suicidal infact i don’t feel anything at all im just completely aimless i dont pace really unlike last time and no anxiety or adrenaline, im just looking for some hope that it’s not going to be forever, thanks in advance. Tom
 
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