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What is wrong with the MDMA available today? - v2

That was not made up the 3% is a real thing having a difference of 75% gap up in impurities

I will be honest I did not click the link -- could you explain it succinctly in words. (Qoute the video if thats easiest lol)

I only meant to say I made my #'s up with one is 95 the other is 100 -- you changed it to 3% and I simply did not notice. My error.

Not a chemist/witch which is why I am bowing out gracefully.. I do see they point about acetone and MDMA though, i have dissolved things before lol

*Edit - I used the wrong which and than got a laugh out of chemist/witch - sorry
 
Thanks for letting me know about this Vash nonsense, this entire thread I honestly need to devote maybe 15-20 hours to cleaning up, it's been something I've been putting off until I feel I have the energy to perform a Herculean feat like that, but I fear that I may never feel like it's the right time so I'm just going to start, and see how far I get.

@vash445 I don't know why you let strangers on the internet trigger you so intensely but please, for fuck's sake just be calm. If you have something to prove chemically, the burden of proof is on the positive statement and should be backed up by material evidence. If you have material evidence to sustain your arguments, feel free to post about it, otherwise I'm growing very sick of your countless attempts to incite or fund criminal behavior on this forum.
I just said it's out there. What people do is there own choosing

There's better ways to Rome anyways without safrole, nor was I offering anyone safrole.

I'm was saying even IF I did I know they would fuck up.

Also you can't compete against the super labs anyways

But I guess that's neither here nor there.
 
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I will be honest I did not click the link -- could you explain it succinctly in words. (Qoute the video if thats easiest lol)

I only meant to say I made my #'s up with one is 95 the other is 100 -- you changed it to 3% and I simply did not notice. My error.

Not a chemist/witch which is why I am bowing out gracefully.. I do see they point about acetone and MDMA though, i have dissolved things before lol

*Edit - I used the wrong which and than got a laugh out of chemist/witch - sorry
Link is the embedded video from breaking bad.
 
@Allylbenzene – I disagree with so many points that's it's almost overwhelming. Almost. Strap in.

TL;DR – more likely that Gary Null is spittin' conspiracy theories to help him sell dietary supplements than nearly a million doctors and a couple hundred med schools are all in on a conspiracy to rip off the public while endangering public health, no whistleblowers in many decades…

doctors are just following guidelines and any iatrogenic harm isn't their fault.
Great word! Reductionist take though.

one of those American citizens who can't point to Europe on a map
What is this "Europe" you speak of? 😉 Just kidding, of course I know where the capital of Australia is…

enamoured with … western medicine
Is that why someone assassinated the United Healthcare CEO in broad daylight? ¿Enámorosos? Because otherwise I think you're just parroting Gary Null's attempts to insult and belittle educated medical professionals… a club he could never fully crack into because he got his PhD from a Cracker Jack box.

I know you demand peer-reviewed backing, whether it's halal or kosher I don't mind. Do Christians have their own equivalent I wonder.
I wouldn't know; religion is silly to me. Re: peer-review, no, I don't demand this; I'm just persuaded by it, like most rational people. And that's because it's based on concrete evidence and the scientific method. And sure, science isn't everything (math is), but it kind of is when it comes to reaching a consensus in a world of superstitions, religions, scammy radio-show hosts, and human susceptibility to herd mentality.

Dietary restrictions smack of slavish adherence to arbitrary traditions, to me, but I'm not into dogma & organized religion, nor taking the word of shyster quacks pitching supplements with poor quality control.

Negligent implies inattention to one's duty or business. Doctors are in the business of helping patients. If they don't know better this is indicative of inadequate training or incompetence. Rather than blame doctors personally I'd highlight the educational inadequacies.
Negligence is selling a physically toxic substance to the public, denying the HIV/AIDs epidemic, denouncing vaccines, and making false statements about public health intended to mislead the public.

Doctors are very well-trained to dispense drugs
That would be pharmacists. Doctors prescribe drugs and pharmacists dispense them, most of the time. Why are you/Gary attacking physicians? Ohhhh, right, you're jealous. Or he is and you're his proxy, is that it? Are you Gary's co-author?

but are often surprisingly unaware of the underlying biochemistry involved in said drugs.
Often, huh? So you've pulled the data on this and have the figures to back up this "often" claim, or are you kinda just guessing on how it works? Something tells me that guesswork is a little biased. You really don't see how Gary Null is a grifter profiting from the bullshit he spins?

A junior doctor from the US told me that his training module on biochemistry was inexplicably brief which he found deplorable.
Yeah right. Even if that's true, the opinion of one "junior doctor" (whatever you think that is) on his own education means next-to-nothing and isn't a large enough sample for any meaningful stats. Not exactly a real deep dive…

A realistic understanding of the biochemistry of statins is sure to assist a doctors decision-making. This understanding is not necessary for a doctor to prescribe statins.
You know: there's more to the medical field than just statins and protein pump inhibitors, right? Very specific metric you're using.

It's probably a peculiarity of certain english dialects from England.
It's not. I was just nitpicking. They say don't modify words like "unique", "dead", "immortal", "pregnant" because they're supposed to be binary, all-or-nothing. A woman either is or is not pregnant, for example. A hospital will not pronounce a person "kinda dead". There is no "very unique" as a thing either is one-of-a-kind or it is not. My point is: I pay close attention to details, and if you read the details around Gary Null, you'll see that his claims are made up and sharing them will reflect poorly on you.

No I just didn't bother to spend time collating book titles …
… or reading the books … or making sure they exist… or drawing from non-fiction.

The relevant books are all on Amazon. His & the coauthors opinion is a bit more complex than your take.
Lemme guess, all by Gary Null and a couple of his cronies. Let's be real: this guy is a conman flipping janky "dietary supplements" with bogus, unchecked claims he pumps through his show/podcast. From Wikipedia:

"Gary Michael Null is an American talk radio host and author who advocates pseudoscientific alternative medicine and produces a line of questionable dietary supplements.

Null is hostile to evidence-based medicine and has accused the medical community of being in a cabal with the pharmaceutical industry to suppress novel treatments for economic gains. He has promoted a range of pseudo-scientific and ineffective alternative treatments, including ones for cancer.

He is an HIV/AIDS denialist who believes nutritional deficiencies are the causative agents of all illnesses, and has accordingly promoted fringe, diet-based treatment regimes for curing AIDS and other illnesses. Null holds strong anti-vaccination views and rejects the scientific consensus on topics such as water fluoridation, genetically modified organisms, and electromagnetic fields.

Reactions in the scholarly community to Null's claims have been generally negative, and Null along with his publications have been frequently criticized for disseminating misleading information that can negatively affect the public's understanding of health issues."

Not a good look. I'm surprised he's not in Donald J. Duck's motley cabinet of dimwits, charlatans, and sycophants. His career was shit-stained already anyways…

It's rhetorical because it's not there to be answered.
No, the answer is supposed to be so obvious that the point is clear. But the answer isn't clear as it's answering in a literal way the metaphor supplied by the "foundations of sand" device you used. But you have no point. You're just helping a conman sell garbage through deception, and no rhetorical device can redeem you, even if you were to start using them correctly. See, here's a question of rhetoric ☞ which seems more likely?

1. One supplement-selling radio show personality w/no med. credentials and a dodgy history has it right while hundreds of thousands of practicing physicians taught at 195 accredited medical schools are wrong and in on a long-running Big Pharma conspiracy w/zero whistleblowers?

… or, that …

2. Gary Null is a quack conman who ruined his professional reputation years ago, and now exploits the lack of oversight on dietary supplement claims for profit?

See? The answer is obvious (unless you're highly proficient at mental gymnastics and self-deception). Hell, Nullburglar himself has been made sick before by his own supplement products. Here's another rhetorical question: none of this ever embarrasses you?

I suppose I've left you with no graceful way out of this. Sorry about that. I expect you'll blast me back with indirect insults and/or claims that I'm naive, in on the conspiracy or insane/stupid/whatever. I get it. It's never easy to admit error, but sometimes it's best to take the L.
 
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@Allylbenzene – I disagree with so many points that's it's almost overwhelming. Almost. Strap in.

TL;DR – more likely that Gary Null is spittin' conspiracy theories to help him sell dietary supplements than nearly a million doctors and a couple hundred med schools are all in on a conspiracy to rip off the public while endangering public health, no whistleblowers in many decades…


Great word! Reductionist take though.


What is this "Europe" you speak of? 😉 Just kidding, of course I know where the capital of Australia is…


Is that why someone assassinated the United Healthcare CEO in broad daylight? ¿Enámorosos? Because otherwise I think you're just parroting Gary Null's attempts to insult and belittle educated medical professionals… a club he could never fully crack into because he got his PhD from a Cracker Jack box.


I wouldn't know; religion is silly to me. Re: peer-review, no, I don't demand this; I'm just persuaded by it, like most rational people. And that's because it's based on concrete evidence and the scientific method. And sure, science isn't everything (math is), but it kind of is when it comes to reaching a consensus in a world of superstitions, religions, scammy radio-show hosts, and human susceptibility to herd mentality.

Dietary restrictions smack of slavish adherence to arbitrary traditions, to me, but I'm not into dogma & organized religion, nor taking the word of shyster quacks pitching supplements with poor quality control.


Negligence is selling a physically toxic substance to the public, denying the HIV/AIDs epidemic, denouncing vaccines, and making false statements about public health intended to mislead the public.


That would be pharmacists. Doctors prescribe drugs and pharmacists dispense them, most of the time. Why are you/Gary attacking physicians? Ohhhh, right, you're jealous. Or he is and you're his proxy, is that it? Are you Gary's co-author?


Often, huh? So you've pulled the data on this and have the figures to back up this "often" claim, or are you kinda just guessing on how it works? Something tells me that guesswork is a little biased. You really don't see how Gary Null is a grifter profiting from the bullshit he spins?


Yeah right. Even if that's true, the opinion of one "junior doctor" (whatever you think that is) on his own education means next-to-nothing and isn't a large enough sample for any meaningful stats. Not exactly a real deep dive…


You know: there's more to the medical field than just statins and protein pump inhibitors, right? Very specific metric you're using.


It's not. I was just nitpicking. They say don't modify words like "unique", "dead", "immortal", "pregnant" because they're supposed to be binary, all-or-nothing. A woman either is or is not pregnant, for example. A hospital will not pronounce a person "kinda dead". There is no "very unique" as a thing either is one-of-a-kind or it is not. My point is: I pay close attention to details, and if you read the details around Gary Null, you'll see that his claims are made up and sharing them will reflect poorly on you.


… or reading the books … or making sure they exist… or drawing from non-fiction.


Lemme guess, all by Gary Null and a couple of his cronies. Let's be real: this guy is a conman flipping janky "dietary supplements" with bogus, unchecked claims he pumps through his show/podcast. From Wikipedia:



Not a good look. I'm surprised he's not in Donald J. Duck's motley cabinet of dimwits, charlatans, and sycophants. His career was shit-stained already anyways…


No, the answer is supposed to be so obvious that the point is clear. But the answer isn't clear as it's answering in a literal way the metaphor supplied by the "foundations of sand" device you used. But you have no point. You're just helping a conman sell garbage through deception, and no rhetorical device can redeem you, even if you were to start using them correctly. See, here's a question of rhetoric ☞ which seems more likely?

1. One supplement-selling radio show personality w/no med. credentials and a dodgy history has it right while hundreds of thousands of practicing physicians taught at 195 accredited medical schools are wrong and in on a long-running Big Pharma conspiracy w/zero whistleblowers?

… or, that …

2. Gary Null is a quack conman who ruined his professional reputation years ago, and now exploits the lack of oversight on dietary supplement claims for profit?

See? The answer is obvious (unless you're highly proficient at mental gymnastics and self-deception). Hell, Nullburglar himself has been made sick before by his own supplement products. Here's another rhetorical question: none of this ever embarrasses you?

I suppose I've left you with no graceful way out of this. Sorry about that. I expect you'll blast me back with indirect insults and/or claims that I'm naive, in on the conspiracy or insane/stupid/whatever. I get it. It's never easy to admit error, but sometimes it's best to take the L.
A hospital will not pronounce a person "kinda dead".

They do it's called brain dead

Because if they are "dead"

You can't harvest body parts like liver. Heart, lungs etc.

certain countries, patients classified as brain-dead may legally have their organs surgically removed for organ donation
 
I disagree with so many points that's it's almost overwhelming.

Thats quite normal!
Presumably, defending modern medicine has never been so easy.

I had a brief (written) discussion with some academic (scientist and PhD supervisor) about the biochemical basis for HPPD and how academia - with it's limited materialistic outlook - has overlooked key elements of this phenomenon and thus misinterprets HPPD due to insufficient context. Naturally, academia is fairly comfortable with it's rationale for HPPD and I doubt it has quantified the understanding which it lacks.

Anyway, the academic displayed a certain attitude which seemed very much aligned with the concept of "academic arrogance". I could theorise that it's a systemic issue but I won't paint everyone with the same brush.

Academic arrogance can be extraordinarily harmful–not only on a personal level, but to the scientific discipline as a whole. It discourages new lines of thinking or questioning established belief and it forces the subservience of those new to the discipline.
 
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Real talk -- learn about things yourself.

Do not trust the doctors or the pez dispensers to have your best interest as they #1 priority.

"Always look out for #1" -- That is you --- Not your doctor, your doctor is gunna look out for #1 too, himself -- Than the pharmacist, same.

These are still people who have been given a modicum of power -- (Petty ppl love to abuse power)

This is a less scientific and more sociological evaluation of this premise obviously.
(As mentioned a dr. aint gunna write on paper, "gave x to patient to save to ime" -- "Didnt give to patient cuz it kinda made me feel good for a bit" -- "chemically lobotomized another pain in the ass today" etc lol)
 
[…] the academic displayed a certain attitude which seemed very much aligned with the concept of "academic arrogance". I could theorise that it's a systemic issue but I won't paint everyone with the same brush.
Cool story. Paint, theorize, and claim "academic arrogance" all you want, still doesn't redeem Gary Null's pseudoscience.

Hey, how about that time Gary Null was poisoned by his own product? He's getting phone calls from his listeners cussing him out for poisoning them with his product while he's at home suffering from the very same poisoning, a Vitamin D overdose. Gary said he nearly died and he permanently damaged his kidneys. Sauce.

Cheese and quackers. Of course you're talking about "academic arrogance" because it's impossible to defend Gary Null and his 70+ books of insufferable nonsense he churned out over four decades. What's that, almost two per year? Quality science, I'm sure. But he had to pay his bills and, ironically, settle lawsuits from peddling his shit "dietary supplements" despite their manifest lack of safety oversight. And also, before you make too many assumptions, let me point out that I'm a college drop-out autodidact with no formal education to speak of, so if you were implying I'm giving academic arrogance, check yourself.

Putting this back in scope, this is why there will never be a consensus on this thread; people are too easily misled by superstition, folklore, confirmation bias, unblinding, and loquacious shysters like our buddy, Mr. Null (great name though). It's no wonder so many ppl do not understand that the premise of this thread does not reflect reality. It's a loaded question. Asking: "[w]hat is wrong with the MDMA available today?" implies (read: "loads the notion that") something is wrong with today's MDMA.

Loaded questions are fun* though, see?**:
*(read: misleading, immature, not constructive, and sometimes mean-spirited)
** (random examples given)

  • "Does your mother know you're gullible?"
  • "Are you aware that your reasoning sucks?"
  • "Do endlessly looping philosophical Möbius strips and circumspect 'discussions' that drive site traffic remain ethically defensible in light of the site's core mission regarding harm reduction?" (Probably, but it's worth considering maybe, all due respect to site admins, and again: totally random examples)

@vash445 Re: organ harvesting ☜okay yeah that's a good point, so maybe the in-gradable—or, absolute—term more fitting would be: "deceased." That's binary. Also, there's a good article in the latest WIRED about this very subject. Fascinating stuff, reminded me of the movie Flatliners.
 
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Cool story. Paint, theorize, and claim "academic arrogance" all you want, still doesn't redeem Gary Null's pseudoscience.
Don't worry, I just looked at his wikipedia entry and it says his work was formerly misinterpreted as pseudoscience. That's great isn't it.

Gary Null and his 70+ books
I didn't know he had other books besides the 1 I'm aware of. The others I read (on iatrogenic harm) were written by a multitude of different authors. I appreciate your utter enthrallment with modern medicine so it's questionable side is easier to dismiss.

From a parliamentary Canadian committee meeting:
I wrote a paper in November 2003, called “Death by Medicine“. This paper was recently published, in the spring of 2005, in the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine. I showed, through government databases and peer-reviewed journals, a number of deaths and the cost.

In hospital adverse drug reactions, or ADRs, there were 106,000 annual deaths. These are American figures, but the extrapolation would be 10% for Canadians. Deaths due to medical error were at 98,000. Bed sores, infections, malnutrition, outpatient ADRs, needless procedures, and surgery-related diseases added up to 783,936 annual premature deaths due to modern medicine.
 
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Don't worry, I just looked at his wikipedia entry and it says his work was formerly misinterpreted as pseudoscience. That's great isn't it.
Except it doesn't say that, and you and I both know it. Dishonesty isn't going to get you out of this; haven't you learned anything from watching your boy, Gary?

If you're trying to make some point about Wikipedia as a questionable source, Gary's reputation is well fucked on his own… See?:
I'm sorry, but I'm not letting you save face here after trying to defend that shitbag dickweasel conman. Don't defend that fake-ass joker or anyone misleading others for profit with their misinformation and not expect me to have a field day.

I appreciate your utter enthrallment with modern medicine so it's questionable side is easier to dismiss.
Oh I'm sure, super guy. And I appreciate your utter lack of regard for the truth. Look, if you won't admit you're wrong here, at least do us a favor and drop this off-topic bullshit. I'm sure no one enjoys skimming through / scrolling past me eviscerating stupid ideas like this, but after repeating myself, ad infinitum, and when you make it this easy… What am I supposed to do? It's hard not to waste my time in overkill mode, reacting like a dick and ironically having the opposite effect from the one I intended, driving others deeper into their opposing view rather than persuading anyone to employ logic and deductive reasoning.

Sorry, I have a head cold and my patience is low. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and figure that you probably didn't realize how much of a shyster Gary Null is. Stop defending him, please. Back to being on topic: what is your opinion on why some people think something is wrong with today's MDMA?
 
^ More context? Kykeon sounds like something I should know about -- or is that a personn
They are/were a public testing facility in Spain. They had agreed to do a comprehensive analysis of the non-mdma content of a sample for me but I was a bit late sending the sample and when I got round to it, they had shut because they are moving to Canada
 
Kykeon is moving to Canada apparently, building a new facility. No timeline currently up so looks like that door has now closed unfortunately.
Any word on whether you will still get your results once they've moved? This is quite an upheaval, and why Canada?
 
Any word on whether you will still get your results once they've moved? This is quite an upheaval, and why Canada?
I needed to submit a new sample but they had closed by the time I got round to it. They aren't replying to emails anymore. No idea on why the move, seems odd and a bit unerving given that they aren't replying. Hopefully just busy
 
"THE DRUGS WERE BETTER WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND I KNOW BECAUSE I TRUST MY SHITTY DRUGGED UP MEMORIES AND MDMA SUCKS NOW BECAUSE IM THE QANON OF ILLICIT DRUG DISCUSSION HOLY FUCK THE XFILES IS BACK AND THERES SIX EPISODES ABOUT ME AND MY SOLID CRYSTALMOPHOGROPENISPUMPMOPHOGRAPHY MY COVER AS A RANTING NUTJOB IS BLOWN. FUCK! FLOW TUBE INFINITE ENERGY MY REDUX BITCH MY FUCKING REDUX ACID CRAPMOGROPHIER CAR IS POWERED BY H20 SIT THE F DOWN"
GREETINGS CHEMISTRY FAN CLUB SCHIZOPHRENICS


so is what are you saying that there's different crystal forms of MDMA and they feel different?

And that the ATMOSPheric contrails have busted up the 90s vibe crystal which can never come back because all the scientists are infected with MehDMA?

ALL YOUR CHEMISTRY CAN BE SORT OF RIGHT AND YOU STILL MAY BE WRONG THAT THERES A DIFFERENCE IN ACTUAL EFFECTS.

HEY vash445. YO Didgital MADE U LOOK LIKE A BEE EYE TEE CEE ACHE. NO COMING BACK HOMIE

NOBODY BELIEVE U THEY KNOW U CRACKD, U CANT EVEN SCIENCE WHY DIDNT U DRINK TH MDMA WATER LIKE HE SAID. WHAT RHYME WITH "COW" AND "FORWARD" ? VASH445 BECAUSE HE A COWARD

VASH445 wrote:
"THE DRUGS WERE BETTER WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND I KNOW BECAUSE I TRUST MY SHITTY DRUGGED UP MEMORIES AND MDMA SUCKS NOW BECAUSE IM THE QANON OF ILLICIT DRUG DISCUSSION HOLY FUCK THE XFILES IS BACK AND THERES SIX EPISODES ABOUT ME AND MY SOLID CRYSTALMOPHOGROPENISPUMPMOPHOGRAPHY MY COVER AS A RANTING NUTJOB IS BLOWN. FUCK! FLOW TUBE INFINITE ENERGY MY REDUX BITCH MY FUCKING REDUX ACID CRAPMOGROPHIER CAR IS POWERED BY H20 SIT THE F DOWN"
 
^ Hey I got no stake in Vash but why you coming here just to clown people?? And I will stand by didgital cuz he made some of the same stupid mistakes I have/would make lol

Cow and forward? my Homie your NOW CORNERED (was that spose to be hard)

I happen to agree with you that objectively "Loss of magic" is the main problem here --- but you feel better for downin people? Idk what you know but they "Seem" (I say that cuz I dont and cant verify) to know some chemistry --- again digdital has been a long time community member......WHY YOU DOING THIS
 
^ Hey I got no stake in Vash but why you coming here just to clown people?? And I will stand by didgital cuz he made some of the same stupid mistakes I have/would make lol

Cow and forward? my Homie your NOW CORNERED (was that spose to be hard)

I happen to agree with you that objectively "Loss of magic" is the main problem here --- but you feel better for downin people? Idk what you know but they "Seem" (I say that cuz I dont and cant verify) to know some chemistry --- again digdital has been a long time community member......WHY YOU DOING THIS

GREETINGS CHEMISTRY FAN CLUB SCHIZOPHRENICS


so is what are you saying that there's different crystal forms of MDMA and they feel different?

And that the ATMOSPheric contrails have busted up the 90s vibe crystal which can never come back because all the scientists are infected with MehDMA?

ALL YOUR CHEMISTRY CAN BE SORT OF RIGHT AND YOU STILL MAY BE WRONG THAT THERES A DIFFERENCE IN ACTUAL EFFECTS.

HEY vash445. YO Didgital MADE U LOOK LIKE A BEE EYE TEE CEE ACHE. NO COMING BACK HOMIE

NOBODY BELIEVE U THEY KNOW U CRACKD, U CANT EVEN SCIENCE WHY DIDNT U DRINK TH MDMA WATER LIKE HE SAID. WHAT RHYME WITH "COW" AND "FORWARD" ? VASH445 BECAUSE HE A COWARD

VASH445 wrote:
"THE DRUGS WERE BETTER WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND I KNOW BECAUSE I TRUST MY SHITTY DRUGGED UP MEMORIES AND MDMA SUCKS NOW BECAUSE IM THE QANON OF ILLICIT DRUG DISCUSSION HOLY FUCK THE XFILES IS BACK AND THERES SIX EPISODES ABOUT ME AND MY SOLID CRYSTALMOPHOGROPENISPUMPMOPHOGRAPHY MY COVER AS A RANTING NUTJOB IS BLOWN. FUCK! FLOW TUBE INFINITE ENERGY MY REDUX BITCH MY FUCKING REDUX ACID CRAPMOGROPHIER CAR IS POWERED BY H20 SIT THE F DOWN"
Why don't you work with MAPS like I did

Why don't you learn why maps uses a ball mill to reach polymorph #1

 
GREETINGS CHEMISTRY FAN CLUB SCHIZOPHRENICS


so is what are you saying that there's different crystal forms of MDMA and they feel different?

And that the ATMOSPheric contrails have busted up the 90s vibe crystal which can never come back because all the scientists are infected with MehDMA?

ALL YOUR CHEMISTRY CAN BE SORT OF RIGHT AND YOU STILL MAY BE WRONG THAT THERES A DIFFERENCE IN ACTUAL EFFECTS.

HEY vash445. YO Didgital MADE U LOOK LIKE A BEE EYE TEE CEE ACHE. NO COMING BACK HOMIE

NOBODY BELIEVE U THEY KNOW U CRACKD, U CANT EVEN SCIENCE WHY DIDNT U DRINK TH MDMA WATER LIKE HE SAID. WHAT RHYME WITH "COW" AND "FORWARD" ? VASH445 BECAUSE HE A COWARD

VASH445 wrote:
"THE DRUGS WERE BETTER WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND I KNOW BECAUSE I TRUST MY SHITTY DRUGGED UP MEMORIES AND MDMA SUCKS NOW BECAUSE IM THE QANON OF ILLICIT DRUG DISCUSSION HOLY FUCK THE XFILES IS BACK AND THERES SIX EPISODES ABOUT ME AND MY SOLID CRYSTALMOPHOGROPENISPUMPMOPHOGRAPHY MY COVER AS A RANTING NUTJOB IS BLOWN. FUCK! FLOW TUBE INFINITE ENERGY MY REDUX BITCH MY FUCKING REDUX ACID CRAPMOGROPHIER CAR IS POWERED BY H20 SIT THE F DOWN"
 
^ Hey I got no stake in Vash but why you coming here just to clown people?? And I will stand by didgital cuz he made some of the same stupid mistakes I have/would make lol

Cow and forward? my Homie your NOW CORNERED (was that spose to be hard)

I happen to agree with you that objectively "Loss of magic" is the main problem here --- but you feel better for downin people? Idk what you know but they "Seem" (I say that cuz I dont and cant verify) to know some chemistry --- again digdital has been a long time community member......WHY YOU DOING THIS
 
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