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In our first house we had a coal fire and obviously a coal celler which we never locked
Went away on holiday for 2 weeks and someone had thieved it
There was no gas on street so most houses still used coal for central heating
Phoned the police when we got back but the officer on the phone had never heard of such a theft and said it would be rather unproductive to lodge a formal complaint

I knew it was the guy across the street but left it at that
To this day I haven't come across anyone else who has had there coal rustled

But tbh it's just like someone siphoning diesel from a lorry
 
I shop lifted when very young, getting 4-6 strong beers at the time to go on parties with no money ... I don't like it.

I knew some people that were fucking good at it, getting expensive bottles out, ripping the tag in the shop, looking all serious with glasses, hat and a little suitcase. This one went out of an electronic store with a massive bluetooth speaker on the trail, he went to ask the guys working there if that speaker is good for a DJ like him, they said yeah it's the best one (it was back in the day those speakers costed a fortune), had a little technical chat and went through the main door, just like that.

Then he was a leader of a little group, they would target isolated Aldi, Lidl shops, break the back doors and steal as much stuff as possible, stuff it in cars... obviously they ended up being identified with the cameras and forbidden to go in many places. It became straight robbing. He eventually went to jail again for some violence.

I myself at the darkest days of my IV addiction, shoplifted a bit. Chocolate, meat, redbulls. All the money I had was going into my addiction I had no money for food, I never shoplifted stuff to pawn it. It was to eat, I remember clients seeing us and saying nothing, probably pity. Dark times
 
OP - small crimes repeated, you get caught.

Nick £20 million and either they get you or they don't.

As a kid we (as a family) watched a reconstruction of a murder and my father was quiet... until he pointed out HOW to get away with it.

Simple, owning a Land Rover meant he COULD drive to Scotland, drive to one of those huge managed forests (with tracks), bury body a couple of miles down and a couple of hundred yards off tha track.

HE MEANT IT!
 
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Wheelbarrow - I know he said a wheelbarrow would be important.

Typical stiffs - stiff.
 
There's got to be an easier way?

Driving 100s of miles and many hours up to scotland, hoping you can find an unlocked area of Forestry Commission land, that wont be disturbed for years, and then pushing literal dead weight in a wheelbarrow through soft ground full of debris, and inches deep in pine needles. I don't think it would be feasible tbh. Plus you'd leave tracks that would be visible for years.

If you live anywhere near the ocean, or some of the UKs deepest and biggest lakes or Lochs, you could go all Dexter, cut the body up into chunks, wrap and weight them, and chuck them off a boat into the water.

Loch Ness is immensely deep apparently. I doubt anyone would trawl the bottom of that!

Guess you don't have to cut up the body, and that is optional.

Apparently there's also a specific acidic chemical that will dissolve bodies as per Walter White's bright idea in Breaking Bad.

Unfortunately he forgot to tell his accomplice NOT to attempt this in a bathtub, as the acid dissolved straight through the bathtub, and the floor underneath, and the ceiling below that.

It created quite a scene!

Apparently a specific grade of plastic barrel should have been used as the vessel.
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
Aldi doesn't even bother with a sticker on its half bottles of vodka sometimes. Not that the stickers actually work.
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Oh yes they do. I've set the alarms off several times because they don't bother deactivating them at the till.

Also, some bottles even have the security tag under the bottle label so they're not immediately obvious. Must be applied at the bottling plant.

But you're right that some of them aren't tagged at all. I always look for those ones just to avoid the embarrassment.
 
@Bleaney - You work with what you have, not what you wish you had.

Landrover - check (twice)
Wheelbarrow - check (with horse manure)
Shovel - check (how do you think the manure gets into the wheelbarrow?)

But that and a simple OS map was ALL he needed. I recall it so clearly because he said it in such a matter-of-fact way. Not 'how horrible, someone got murdered' but 'No, no no, HERE is how you dispose of a body'.

It made me think, I can tell you.

But I know this - IF he murdered someone, he knows enough not to involve anyone else, rely on anyone else or try to be clever. A simple plan has fewer inponderables. The landies also had jerry cans of diesel (towing horse boxes does rather spoil fuel economy) so he COULD have driven from Manchester to the north of Scotland, buried the body, driven home and wouldn't end up on CCTV of a petrol station (for example).

Who looks at a wreck of an old diesel Land Rover in remote Scotland? About half of the vehicles on the road are Land Rovers. So he had even figured out that the vehicles we had offered us some unique advantages. It would look totally normal for a Land Rover to go down one of those remote tracks - it happens so often that even if seen, nobody would be able to say when if the body turned up years later...

Maybe he lived a double life? By day a suit-wearing QS at a large building company, by night a body disposal operative. Back then horses were typically bought and sold in cash so even IF the police noted unusual bank activity, he could just claimed to have sold a horse.

He clearly HAD throught it all through as we watched that TV show. Or, at least, I HOPE that was all it was.
 
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