Stimulants how do stims affect driving?

[N0ph0n0]

Yo so like i was wondering how do different stims affect driving. Anybody got some personal experience (as passengers or what ever the site rules say abt self-incrimination) of how stuff like cocaine, amphetamines, cathinones or pyrrolidines affect driving? I never drove a car but i imagine if did while on meth i would probably try following the exact speed limit and generally drive very safely while cocaine would probably get me to crash into a wall at full speed within an hour.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

they don’t affect it as long as you aren’t in psychosis or severely tweaked out.

good luck playing it off if you get pulled over. very easy to tell you’re high for the cops with stims.

 

[N0ph0n0]

good luck playing it off if you get pulled over. very easy to tell you’re high for the cops with stims.

Yeah i bet

 

[chippermonk]

It seemed sort of ok to me, but I think it would have been a lot better sober. But better than opioids at night and losing your night vision, or on PCP. And I don't even want to think about the time I drove tripping balls to the walls on acid. Luckily I lived and learned.

 

[Robi]

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

It seemed sort of ok to me, but I think it would have been a lot better sober. But better than opioids at night and losing your night vision, or on PCP. And I don't even want to think about the time I drove tripping balls to the walls on acid. Luckily I lived and learned.

i drove on pcp once and i drove fine, granted it was after the peak ….but the part of lowering all my windows cranking up the music and happily screaming at other drivers could have gotten me into serious trouble


opioids is super dangerous because you are fine motor skills wise but you just nod out and rear end someone or plow into a tree.

as long as you don’t nod at all it’s fine

 

[N0ph0n0]

opioids is super dangerous because you are fine motor skills wise but you just nod out and rear end someone or plow into a tree.

as long as you don’t nod at all it’s fine

Man... my dad was allways nodding out while driving, took me years to figure out why he was falling asleep in the of the day while driving.

 

[chippermonk]

Man... my dad was allways nodding out while driving, took me years to figure out why he was falling asleep in the of the day while driving.

My dad scared the fuck out of me driving on the fentanyl patch. Nodding. Always crossing lines, driving half on the shoulder kicking up gravel without even noticing. I never drove terribly high on opis myself but the thing I really noticed is that even a small dose kills my night vision which is really dangerous. Pinned pupils.
PCP I really scared myself once.
But less face it, driving drunk is up there with any of them.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Yo so like i was wondering how do different stims affect driving. Anybody got some personal experience (as passengers or what ever the site rules say abt self-incrimination) of how stuff like cocaine, amphetamines, cathinones or pyrrolidines affect driving? I never drove a car but i imagine if did while on meth i would probably try following the exact speed limit and generally drive very safely while cocaine would probably get me to crash into a wall at full speed within an hour.

I used to love driving on amphetamines. But you have to be careful not to overdo it. Over hightened reflexes can be as problematic as slow reflexes.

 

[danosaurous22]

Cocaine is very difficult for me to drive on. It's always fine but I get so fucking confused and loopy at times that I get very close to making a mistake that could get me pulled over very easily. I end up getting very distracted trying to do basic multitasking like radio and smoking and finding stuff in my pockets, eyes are wide as plates and I'm having to just focus really really hard on the act of driving. Normal turns and intersections become a maze of stimulus that has me doubting what to do, and at the worst paranoia gets me very concerned about what could happen if I were to hallucinate or freak out in the middle of driving. Once I drove a long drive after a huge cocaine binge, and drank a shit ton to "sober up" so I wouldn't raise suspicions at a gathering (genius idea I know. But truly I feel like drinking does sort of make you come down into a state of light drunkness rather than full blown tweaking and feeling totally sketchy and miserable). That drive was so fucking scary. I was having to really force myself to be laser focused on driving and when I came down I pulled into a gas station and did more coke like an idiot. That was a huge dose and by the end of the drive I was nearly freaking out, very grateful to be almost home. It was a very intense experience and rather interesting for that reason, was really thinking deeply about the music I was listening to and it was nearly too much to handle listening to with how hard I was thinking about every bit of it. Like others said if I had been pulled over they would have definitely seen something was up. I've had to conceal a strong coke high/sometimes coke and alcohol high in so many different situations, I only really pull it off by white knuckling every interaction and just accepting that I will act like I've been holed up in a cave for years, not knowing how to flow with the conversation. Not talking too much, but just not knowing when to interject or when somebody stops talking so I can speak and not really being able to banter at all. Basically just become super super awkward and as though I'm fighting through profound mental fog to even just make small talk. Eventually after an hour or so I end up getting very social again but in a weirdly callous way, acting very bold and confident and matter-of-fact with conversations in a way that is actually sometimes beneficial. If I can hold it together and I'm not so fucked up that my eyes are wide as fuck and I'm acting really weird physically (jaw stuff, deep breaths, not knowing how to look normal doing every day things and kind of flowing around in a weird way) I actually find it can make me a bit better at talking in a professional way, getting straight to the point and not mincing words or wondering what to say. But it is such a fine line trying to hide that high, it is such a miserable experience to have to pretend you're a regular person who wants to talk to people rather than just run back home to do more coke alone.

 

[Halif2]

That drive was so fucking scary. I was having to really force myself to be laser focused on driving and when I came down I pulled into a gas station and did more coke like an idiot.

That made me laugh. That's the most coke thing I've ever heard.

Every possible scenario or situation, regardless of how good or how bad it's going, the answer is always 'more coke'.

it is such a miserable experience to have to pretend you're a regular person who wants to talk to people rather than just run back home to do more coke alone.

oh my god, I'm sorry I shouldn't be laughing but this is so relatable and just funny. Coke can be such a ridiculously pointless drug. It all just comes down to 'more coke now' whether you're even enjoying it or not.

Hopefully the days of coked up driving are behind you now, Dano.

 

[Dextro .45]

Oh fuck, I’ll take Ritalin 50mg IR ……blast some Yayo…..3 drinks …..and FLY in my BMW 325i taking corners like Mario Andretti, bucking that in-line 6 like it owes me money lol, Dunlop Hi performance summer tires 1/4 tank……light weight, engine warm with 140km of cool air rushing into the hoods kidney grills cooling the radiator down as I turn N burn like a F-16 Fighting Falcon ….just pure performance. Air superiority surrounded by inferior pilots……retareded liabilities huddled together waiting for an accident ……my crystal sharp mind 5 steps ahead of making moves

The thrill & excitement of encountering another driver at me level, we fly together…..both understanding “proper driving etiquette” I’ll back off a bit to let him zip by if his lain is ending etc …..like two fighter jets on a SORTEE …..enroute to Bangdad to drop our laser guided ordnance then head back to home base .

I can feel the energy of the other cars by their body language……I know this dude is going to change into the left lane before it even happens ……..like a fuckn fighter pilot…….with a slamming track pounding on the speakers

It’s EXHILARATING like shooting a Speedball

Fck if I had money, that new 500k Porsche with Spoiler on rear, a sick Lamborghini or Ferrari ….Mazeratti a BMW M3 Sport Coupe …..I should’ve been a fighter pilot Fck

 

[sadmachine]

Dosage & Subjectivity.

I've only ever done it once myself due to an emergency but I was very cooked on crystal and sleep deprived. It was less than a 3 min drive on a quiet, slow back road. Still drove directly over a small roundabout. Not sure if it was by choice or not. Not my proudest moment at all.

Light-moderate dex/adderall that you take regularly? Probably be fine for most but I still wouldn't personally.

Day 5 of high quality crystal, shadow people in the corner, coffee mug making weird noises at you? Get out and walk son. Probably get there faster too lol.

Strangely enough I find cannabis makes me a very conscious and safe driver, though i've only ever done it on short trips back when I lived in a small town.
Even weirder for me is oxy. The one time I decided to drive, I made it 2 mins down the road and decided the risk wasn't worth it and turned back. Wasn't anywhere close to a nod and tolerance was getting up there (probably on 40-50mg?) but I was shocked at how dicey it felt. I think being night made it worse too. It really shocked me because I would be high at work, at home, in public, no one had a clue (my pupils are hard to see when pinned). But as soon as I got in that car and made it out the car park I had to admit to myself felt much dodgier than I was expecting. Vehicle potentiation lol.

Just gently swinging back to HR here: Cars imo need to be treated with as much respect as some drugs. Cars are the easiest way to accidentally kill someone with the least effort. People recover from addiction every day and go on to lead normal lives. Killing someone while under the influence driving your car? Ain't no coming back from that one. That's stigma for life, an article in your local news rag and everyone who might have been able to one day support you now hates you for life.

Over here we have trams, escooters and bikes you can rent. I used to see the hard types that deal to the homeless flying down the city on escooters with their bum bags at all hours of the morning lol. At least if you stack into someone on one of those they'll probably live. Probably a bit easier to shake off the police too i'd imagine.

For me, 0 remorse if you routinely drive influenced or sleep deprived for no urgent reason. (dope flu not an urgent reason I'm afraid) Do all the drugs you want, but don't harm others. Them's the rules. There is a bit of a judgement call in there of course, like obviously urgent Hospital trips, getting someone out of a dangerous spot etc. What I used to notice (early 2010's) was 1 of 2 things usually. 1. Delusions of their level of impairment. We're all guilty of this, par for the course. Often reinforced because they've done it for a while without any issues so must be fine fight? and 2. The ones that get off on the risk. Boils my blood just thinking about it...

 

[Esperighanto]

(4F)-MPH makes me drive like a calm, cool and calculated agent out of a spy movie.
Amphetamines in general makes me drive like a fucking maniac who treats his car like a skateboard.
Coca tea acts a lot like meth.
NEP distracts me from eyeballing randos with horny thoughts.
Empathogens don't seem to meaningfully impact it.
Bupropion and xanthines (caffeine, methylliberine, etc.) keep me from falling asleep behind the wheel.

 

[Skorpio]

I’m a fan of stimulants at therapeutic doses while driving. A 10 mg adderall xr can have me driving very focused for hours and hours.

I tend to get sleepy in the middle of the day, so I keep caffiene pills and ephedrine in my car so I can pull over and pop half of each if I start to fade during a long drive.

I wouldn’t want to drive while overstimulated, but the right amount of stimulation really locks me in.

 

[Greed420]

Drove in different occasion under crack cocaine, coke, NEP (cathinone), HEXEN, a mix of 50%NEP and 50% HEXEN, 2FMA, 4F-MPH, methylphenidate, a-PiHP.

smoked 0.2g of crack cocaine and did 2 small lines of coke (not particularly good) and I was overconfident, never went fast casue I knew I was under influence of stims and drugs ion general. Drove a normal city car (peugeot 106) and an 800cc motorbike (yamaha FZ8). On crack and coke you def think too much (I have ADHD but still) for example I didn't find the ecig and knew that the car was thrash on the floor so I immediatly start searcing it and like 2 second later I was like WTF AM I DOING?! FOCUS ON THE ROAD YOU PRICK!" I was at 50km/h or 30-35mph.

On methylphenidate, if took therapeutically is perfect. My dose is 80mg XR oral, I drive also after a bender without sleep and snort 80-120mg before driving (mid-high tolerance) and that wakens me up, I were confident but not over confident. I were pushing the gas a little but never too much and I were super focused on all the possible threaths of the roas like pedestrians, red lights, crossroads, roundabouts, stop signal etc... I respect all the code except for speed which I were usually 20-30kmh over the limit if possible.

4F-MPH the PERFECT FOCUS STIM. No euphoria, no distraction, ALL FOCUS. 40mg with tolerance oral gave me a smooth drove through an house for holidays, I had pleasure driving and was confident butu also very careful and smooth through the corners. Car. Never FZ8.

a-PiHP was coming back home in my motorbike a summer night at 4am after smoking the pipe all evening to a friend. I came back very high so knewing this situation I keep the speed very slow even if the city were desert. No more than the speed limit which is 50kmh. I pushed a little in a long straight road to 80kmh-100kmh and the speed was pleasurable, of course at 4am in my city means 99% no police, no pedestrians, traffic lights off (yellow on-off) and streets lights ON. So the visibility were damn good. But I felt comfy to keep the speed limits and enjoy the ride. Very pleasurable, but only on thtat conditions.
Under NEP the overconfidence and lots of stimuli to care about during the day was almost OVERWHELMING. Keep the speed way lower on motorbike, I didn't give a flying fuck 2 guys on a black naked 800cc going 20kmh were scooters surpassed me, I wanna go comfortable and safe (I had TO drive, If I would choose I didn't but still...) so I preferred that a slightly paranoia possesed me and go super slow. This applies to smoked/snorted NEP and 50:50 NEP:HEXEN snorted and HEXEN alone.

2FMA the clearer eurospeed with longer legs. In the right amount can reset any tiredness like MPH and 4F-MPH without induce much euphoria so you stay focus to the road without distractions. 30mg oral for non tolerant or low tolerant people is a good amount and safe.

3FMA (BONUS) overconfident, was rainy on my FZ8 buy hot (summer night) I were go to a friend house to my house to take more 3FMA and came back so i wanna go fast, I pushed to the 100kmh on a straight road (WET) but also slow down to 40kmh after that and preferrred safe than sorry.

HONORABLE MENTION: WEED
WEED can be extremely dangerous if underrated, while can be paranoic inducing if overrated. You just go 30kmh thinking of going at the speed of light, you're all daze and confused and just wanna lie down without the hassle of driving. MOST DANGEROUS DRUG OF THE LISTED.

BONUS NUMBER 2:
A night at a rave more than 100km from my home, no sleep, took 0.5g MDMA 12h ago (so any effects and comedown over), took a little ketamine in the early orning (4-5h prior driving) with a joint. The joint I din't felt that much, as the ket cause it was for ease the comedown in little bumps touching the bag with the tip of my pinkie and snort it. Waited while hydrate myself on the grass with the sun shining. Take eyes closed to relax myself for the remaining time than 4h after I pushed my friends to start packing and go in the car (mine a C2 VTR 1.4 liter, another small citycar, with low suspension and good handling, the steer harden when the speed raises and was perfect on highway, shame for the 75CV 1400cc 8 valve 4 cylinders) they all said that it were ok for them to wait, the importance is be safe and I said so, so we packed and start the small trip back home.
I mantained on the highway with the limit of 130-110kmh a speed of 170-180kmh (top speed) a nasty headache start and I just wanna go home. I went insanely fast but I were totally lucid except the sleep debt. No hangover except headache which I hate. The sun, hot summer didn't help. I took 40-45min to back home. I goddamm fly on that highway, I slow down only if I see the NEED TO, but were laser focused on the road. Of courxse on normal road I stay woithin the limits: pedestrians, scooters,traffic lights... too much hassle. The two sleeping guys that didn't knew me were super impressed on how fucking fast we took to get home.

DON'T GET HIGH AND DRIVE LIKE A MORON