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RCs Do any good legal highs still exist ??

fuckabout89 said:
I hate bad the scamming has gotten you dont know if your getting the chemical you paid for you almost have to test everything to make sure.
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Yeah I mean, it's worth testing things for sure, but it also encourages purchases of bulk amounts of things. My mother and I spent the current equivalent of like, 6 tanks of gas in my sedan rn on half a pound of HHC from a lab where I have corresponded with some of the chemists for a very long time. Analyzed it once it got here, it all checked out, and I try to do similar with other things.

A kilo of kratom was 1-2 tanks of gas, the same thing as a hundred gas station MGM-15 pressies was 6.25x cheaper by just acquiring it as pure crystal. I'm using the weird units of measure here that can't be traced back to an actual discrete value as a way to give a highly ambiguous representation of how the pricing is right now since price talk isn't cool here on BL, but if you compare that with people who buy individual cans of kratom tea (which is kind of a big thing here in Florida for some reason), or gas station MGM-15 pressies, or even buying LSD by the tab instead of by the sheet, you'll find a huge difference in how prices scale, and often quality too.
 
Esperighanto said:
Yeah I mean, it's worth testing things for sure, but it also encourages purchases of bulk amounts of things. My mother and I spent the current equivalent of like, 6 tanks of gas in my sedan rn on half a pound of HHC from a lab where I have corresponded with some of the chemists for a very long time. Analyzed it once it got here, it all checked out, and I try to do similar with other things.

A kilo of kratom was 1-2 tanks of gas, the same thing as a hundred gas station MGM-15 pressies was 6.25x cheaper by just acquiring it as pure crystal. I'm using the weird units of measure here that can't be traced back to an actual discrete value as a way to give a highly ambiguous representation of how the pricing is right now since price talk isn't cool here on BL, but if you compare that with people who buy individual cans of kratom tea (which is kind of a big thing here in Florida for some reason), or gas station MGM-15 pressies, or even buying LSD by the tab instead of by the sheet, you'll find a huge difference in how prices scale, and often quality too.
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A question, since you live in Florida and are knowledgeable, do you know what is in those various brands of smoke shop mushroom products? I was recently in Florida and saw various brands, was curious so looked at the labels. All I saw listed were 4 types of mushrooms, none particularly psychoactive ( lions mane, cordyceps, I forget the others ). The store worker claimed they'd get me high but had no idea what they had in them. Obviously there had to be undeclared substances. I didn't buy them because that's not how I do things but I am curious.
I'm sure they sell similar products here, maybe even the same brands but I can't imagine there is much consistency between different brands, or even between different batches. Why even fuck around with it? ( that's a question, not a judgement)
 
chippermonk said:
A question, since you live in Florida and are knowledgeable, do you know what is in those various brands of smoke shop mushroom products? I was recently in Florida and saw various brands, was curious so looked at the labels. All I saw listed were 4 types of mushrooms, none particularly psychoactive ( lions mane, cordyceps, I forget the others ). The store worker claimed they'd get me high but had no idea what they had in them. Obviously there had to be undeclared substances. I didn't buy them because that's not how I do things but I am curious.
I'm sure they sell similar products here, maybe even the same brands but I can't imagine there is much consistency between different brands, or even between different batches. Why even fuck around with it? ( that's a question, not a judgement)
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If you eat it gets you high with the mushroom or RC psch thats in it, and regarding HHC you should only eat it gives off toxic byproducts that are cancerous.
 
fuckabout89 said:
If you eat it gets you high with the mushroom or RC psch thats in it, and regarding HHC you should only eat it gives off toxic byproducts that are cancerous.
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What toxic byproducts are generated by vaporizing HHC?
chippermonk said:
A question, since you live in Florida and are knowledgeable, do you know what is in those various brands of smoke shop mushroom products? I was recently in Florida and saw various brands, was curious so looked at the labels. All I saw listed were 4 types of mushrooms, none particularly psychoactive ( lions mane, cordyceps, I forget the others ). The store worker claimed they'd get me high but had no idea what they had in them. Obviously there had to be undeclared substances. I didn't buy them because that's not how I do things but I am curious.
I'm sure they sell similar products here, maybe even the same brands but I can't imagine there is much consistency between different brands, or even between different batches. Why even fuck around with it? ( that's a question, not a judgement)
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Most of them contain ethocin or metocin, some contain psilacetin or mushroom extracts, some contain cannabinoids like ∆8 or HHC, a rare few contain amanitas, some are just totally inert. Batch variance and quality control indicates to me that these are probably unwise, growing mushrooms is trivially simple if mushrooms are what you're after, imo.
 
Skorpio said:
Nitrous, kratom, salvia (good is debatable here but it's quite the trip), dxm.

Others can speak to the current rc scene better, but there is certainly no brazen plant food type selling. (also here in the us I am completely out of the RC loop. One friend tried to get some various things from Canada and got a love letter so Ive never really dug deep due to the fear).
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Kratom is good but doesn't get you high. Source: did kratom
 
Esperighanto said:
What toxic byproducts are generated by vaporizing HHC?

Most of them contain ethocin or metocin, some contain psilacetin or mushroom extracts, some contain cannabinoids like ∆8 or HHC, a rare few contain amanitas, some are just totally inert. Batch variance and quality control indicates to me that these are probably unwise, growing mushrooms is trivially simple if mushrooms are what you're after, imo.
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I dont know I seen someone on Reddit mention it a while ago.
 
Tusi is supposed to be some mixture of MDMA, Ketamine, and 2C-B. It is usually a hot pink color. Of course the color is just part of the gimmick.
 
Has anybody seen any strangely branded packets being sold at gas stations or smoke shops behind the counter in the U.S. lately...have such funky names as "hookah cleaner" or "White Lightning" or "Sextasy" or what have you ??
 
The RCs days are long gone and I dont see them ever coming back. Poorer society gets the less free and more restrictive laws come. You might get some people who will produce some stuff here and there but the ordering shit online days are going away there gonna make real hard to ship anything online with and AI and shit.
 
fuckabout89 said:
The RCs days are long gone and I dont see them ever coming back. Poorer society gets the less free and more restrictive laws come. You might get some people who will produce some stuff here and there but the ordering shit online days are going away there gonna make real hard to ship anything online with and AI and shit.
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Nah it's just moved off the clearnet, the barrier of entry to darknet usage has dropped so much that even when I was in high school a decade ago, kids were using it then. There's no way people aren't still using it widely.
 
Esperighanto said:
Nah it's just moved off the clearnet, the barrier of entry to darknet usage has dropped so much that even when I was in high school a decade ago, kids were using it then. There's no way people aren't still using it widely.
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Well I know it moved off the clearnet and I use to use the darknet. I didn't really see any different RCs that were available like on telegram. If you're in the US you cant order from Europe anymore, your taking a massive gamble if you do. The only thing you could get were benzos, a few cathiones still, and think there was psychedelics but the quality has drastically went down and you taking huge gamble you even getting what you asked for which is a big problem. I just gave up at certain point and stuck regular with rrgular drugs like meth and psychs.
 
Esperighanto said:
Nah it's just moved off the clearnet, the barrier of entry to darknet usage has dropped so much that even when I was in high school a decade ago, kids were using it then. There's no way people aren't still using it widely.
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In my experience, people mostly use telegram or signal now. I wouldn't say clearnet RCs are gone, just not as easy to find or as prevalent as they used to be. Where I live you can still get tryptamines, phenethylamines and lysergamides online pretty easily.
 
cycloprop said:
In my experience, people mostly use telegram or signal now. I wouldn't say clearnet RCs are gone, just not as easy to find or as prevalent as they used to be. Where I live you can still get tryptamines, phenethylamines and lysergamides online pretty easily.
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You can still get the good stuff here and there but they dont constantly make it. You'll get a old time chemists who will cook a batch of something good but someone always ruins it and they end up sketching the vendor out. They'll get lazy and dont use encryption or theyll constantly bug the vendor when is my order coming when is my order coming without using encryption.
 
fuckabout89 said:
You can still get the good stuff here and there but they dont constantly make it. You'll get a old time chemists who will cook a batch of something good but someone always ruins it and they end up sketching the vendor out. They'll get lazy and dont use encryption or theyll constantly bug the vendor when is my order coming when is my order coming without using encryption.
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You've got a good point here, I never thought about how varying behaviors in consumer culture would cause clandestine chemists to likely become more standoffish. I also suspect that a part of this whole cultural equation is that RCs came up during a time where staples such as LSD and MDMA (at least a pure, high dosage form of them) were increasingly difficult to find. If you can't find LSD you believe might not be an NBOMe with a doping agent to pass a reagent test as LSD, you would feel safer buying ALD-52 from a trusted source and knowing that it becomes LSD in your body, you know? I bet this was part of it for at least some percentage of people who leaned towards RCs back a couple decades or so.

I've also noticed that specific classes of drugs seem to elicit more annoying customers. I'll probably catch mad shit for saying it on a public forum, but people who use short-duration mu/delta opioid agonists like 7-OH-Mitragynine are possibly the most freakish about "My package didn't ship fast enough!" varieties of bitching. I recently ordered a gram of MGM-15 and it was at the post office in 46 fucking minutes. What kind of consumer culture led to the vendor moving THAT fast? I've had stimulants that make me move like the goddamn Flash take more time to get to the post office dude, but this obscure opioid made it there in less time than it takes me to eat a full pizza from Domin's? Are you fucking kidding me? It's insane, I've corresponded with the chemist behind that operation too that made the MGM-15 and bro's a super normal guy, I have no clue how he was moving at lightspeed like that but if I place any more orders from him and he moves that fast again I'm going to start suspecting he's got a pneumatic transport tube like you'd use at a bank drive-through, except connected to the post office haha.

fuckabout89 said:
Well I know it moved off the clearnet and I use to use the darknet. I didn't really see any different RCs that were available like on telegram. If you're in the US you cant order from Europe anymore, your taking a massive gamble if you do. The only thing you could get were benzos, a few cathiones still, and think there was psychedelics but the quality has drastically went down and you taking huge gamble you even getting what you asked for which is a big problem. I just gave up at certain point and stuck regular with rrgular drugs like meth and psychs.
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There's definitely been more of a pull back towards more "conventional" drugs, it seems. While the variety is nice to have around, I will give you that I do see variety popping up in the world of benzos and psychedelics at least, I hope it extends on to dissociatives and empathogens but only time will tell!
 
Esperighanto said:
You've got a good point here, I never thought about how varying behaviors in consumer culture would cause clandestine chemists to likely become more standoffish. I also suspect that a part of this whole cultural equation is that RCs came up during a time where staples such as LSD and MDMA (at least a pure, high dosage form of them) were increasingly difficult to find. If you can't find LSD you believe might not be an NBOMe with a doping agent to pass a reagent test as LSD, you would feel safer buying ALD-52 from a trusted source and knowing that it becomes LSD in your body, you know? I bet this was part of it for at least some percentage of people who leaned towards RCs back a couple decades or so.

I've also noticed that specific classes of drugs seem to elicit more annoying customers. I'll probably catch mad shit for saying it on a public forum, but people who use short-duration mu/delta opioid agonists like 7-OH-Mitragynine are possibly the most freakish about "My package didn't ship fast enough!" varieties of bitching. I recently ordered a gram of MGM-15 and it was at the post office in 46 fucking minutes. What kind of consumer culture led to the vendor moving THAT fast? I've had stimulants that make me move like the goddamn Flash take more time to get to the post office dude, but this obscure opioid made it there in less time than it takes me to eat a full pizza from Domin's? Are you fucking kidding me? It's insane, I've corresponded with the chemist behind that operation too that made the MGM-15 and bro's a super normal guy, I have no clue how he was moving at lightspeed like that but if I place any more orders from him and he moves that fast again I'm going to start suspecting he's got a pneumatic transport tube like you'd use at a bank drive-through, except connected to the post office haha.


There's definitely been more of a pull back towards more "conventional" drugs, it seems. While the variety is nice to have around, I will give you that I do see variety popping up in the world of benzos and psychedelics at least, I hope it extends on to dissociatives and empathogens but only time will tell!
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Pyro heads want thier drugs lol. I would get similar about my meth, just got so damn paranoid the vendor was gonna pull a fast one on you. Which they would do frequently too people after about a week of them not shipping I started getting pissed lol. Well he did pull a fast one on a bunch people after me I eventually I got it. He was gonna do it on me but threw a huge fuss because I knew what he was doing and got kicked out of a group.
 
fuckabout89 said:
Pyro heads want thier drugs lol. I would get similar about my meth, just got so damn paranoid the vendor was gonna pull a fast one on you. Which they would do frequently too people after about a week of them not shipping I started getting pissed lol. Well he did pull a fast one on a bunch people after me I eventually I got it. He was gonna do it on me but threw a huge fuss because I knew what he was doing and got kicked out of a group.
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Pyroheads can go freebase some rock and smoke the OLD school fiend stim hahaha. As far as vendors taking a while, I've had vendors take up to 8 goddamn months but have never had a single person not ship, it just takes forever sometimes.
 
Esperighanto said:
Pyroheads can go freebase some rock and smoke the OLD school fiend stim hahaha. As far as vendors taking a while, I've had vendors take up to 8 goddamn months but have never had a single person not ship, it just
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Yeah after the exit scamming they got awful and the Crack down on RCs back in 2022. Man also if you take 8 months to ship my shit gonna call you a scammer and thats exactly why we had a list of people that took long they ended up on the scammer list. If your gonna take that long just exit the scene theres no good reason for that.
 
I miss NEP, but after an hour and a half it starts sucking and the vaso-constriction is terrible and so is the after-stimulation.
 
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