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I sure do wonder how much of this overlaps with how people will call any paper that makes them trip "acid". I've had people try to sell me "long acid" (unknown DOx), "bitter acid" (unknown 25X-NBXX), "happy acid" (low dosed LSD), etc.
Reminds me of one of my first times buying LSD from a dealer as opposed to ordering online. The dealer had two different sets of gel tabs, one green and one brown.

The brown ones were apparently lower dosed (though he didn't actually know the dose of either) and tried to sell me on it as "Molly acid".

I was already rather familiar with LSD at the time so I asked what he meant, and he explained they're just weaker tabs and thus a bit more body high than headspace.

I'm still not completely sure if that's just what he called low dose LSD or if calling it that was a marketing thing. I got to know the guy a bit and he seems to know very little about these drugs, so it could be either. I've become the guy he calls when he needs advice or an explanation about psychs.

The guy didn't even know about reagent testing until I got him a set and showed him how to use it.
 
Reminds me of one of my first times buying LSD from a dealer as opposed to ordering online. The dealer had two different sets of gel tabs, one green and one brown.

The brown ones were apparently lower dosed (though he didn't actually know the dose of either) and tried to sell me on it as "Molly acid".

I was already rather familiar with LSD at the time so I asked what he meant, and he explained they're just weaker tabs and thus a bit more body high than headspace.

I'm still not completely sure if that's just what he called low dose LSD or if calling it that was a marketing thing. I got to know the guy a bit and he seems to know very little about these drugs, so it could be either. I've become the guy he calls when he needs advice or an explanation about psychs.

The guy didn't even know about reagent testing until I got him a set and showed him how to use it.
Lmao reminds me the time a plug showed me his bag of pills and asked me if i knew what they were cuz this moron had no clue. After i checked with google lens it ends up it was some generic brand 1mg xanax. I was even more baffled when he asked me what price he should sell them for.
 
LSD is a single, isolated compound designed to interact with specific brain receptors.

Plant medicines, however, contain dozens or even hundreds of active compounds.


h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/gayakalicenter/p/DWUK6jNFnIZ/ 2026-03-25

When people see chemical constituents stated for an herb they're interested in, they automatically assume that all of those chemicals contribute to the desirable effect:

"Other alkaloids found in lesser concentrations include harmol, harmalol, and harmane, all of which exhibit their unique pharmacological effects." What are Harmala Alkaloids? Origin Health. https://web.archive.org/web/2025012...gin.com/blogs/news/what-are-harmala-alkaloids

Harmol and harmalol are metabolites of harmine and harmaline, so there's reason to believe that harmol & harmalol and harmine & harmaline are one-and-the-same, effectually. There could be a difference, like with how carisoprodol has an effect and then metabolizes to meprobamate, which has a slightly different effect, but just seeing a group of chemicals and assuming that they all contribute in a unique wayβ€”let alone being present in substantial amountsβ€”is unscientific.

The Big & Dandy Syrian Rue & Harmala MAOI Alkaloids Thread
 
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Let's not forget the good acid and bad acid.
Or how some associate a specific blotter art or pill press with a set of effects.
I have seen the "good" and "bad" label with many different drugs and half the time they are getting the same level of purity but forgetting to account for their own long term changes in receptor density and sensitivity from use.

These comments are common in the phenibut and kratom communities. They will often say that older products are superior despite plenty of new users reporting no issues.
 
insanlık olarak maymunla akraba olma bilimselliği... bir insanı utandırmak büyük günahlardan sayılırmış!
 
I've noticed that people post ridiculous comments on the Internet and some of them are especially ridiculous. I think we should copy these types of comments into a hall of shame. Some examples:

"LSD is a chemical found in nature actually (ergot)."


"I never said LSD was ergot. It is found in ergot, and ergot is part of nature - so its a chemical found in nature the same way DMT is a chemical found in nature."

MapachoCura, 2024-07-12, h‍ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Ayahuasca/comments/1e0yjuq/comment/lcu8t9j/ & h‍ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Ayahuasca/comments/1e0yjuq/comment/lcuowqq/


"synthesis of a compound doesn't mean it's synthetic lol. Albert hoffman was the first to synthesize LSD and psilocybin, among many others, and both those substances are naturally occurring. Synthesis is most often finding ways to extract or procure a naturally occurring compounds, and while novel manmade psychedelics exist, the vast majority is found in whatever amount in nature."


"well hoffman synthesized lsd, but that doesn't mean it's a synthetic compound"

kgatlt, 2026-03-11 & 2026-03-13, h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/theflowerpharm/p/DVrulrzDT_x/


"There are many... probably hundreds to thousands of ergaloids and lysergimides, and most of the effects of these seeds comes from different molecules than actual LSA, as when experimented with pure labratory produced LSA from another skeleton that is workable, did not produce the effects of the seeds of these kind." Human_notsomuch, 2024-11-15, h‍ttps://www.reddit.com/r/LSA/comments/1grpycg/is_smoking_lsa_actually_possible_or_not/lx83hqh/
Did Ismene say all this?
 
Reminds me one time i was Montreal talking with a crack whore while waiting for her dealer to show up and shes talking to me about this "black death molly" and how when she showed it to her roomate her roomate told her "THAT'S BLACK DEATH MOLLY HOLY SHIT YOU GOT THE BEST SHIT IN TOWN YOU GOTTA SELL THAT CUZ THAT'S SOME CRAZY RARE EXPENSIVE MOLLY" like as if the molly being black made it any different like i bet that at one point there was a good batch of molly that was colored black but over here the color really just means which supplier it comes from, it's a way to make sure street dealers dont buy from rival suppliers and this bitch genuinly thought that it was like a different drug because of the color.
Lol "black death molly" sounds like something you'd see on one of the fictional cop drama series.

You have to remember allot of the people who use drugs don't even know what a molecule is; and think that a drug is just a bunch of chemicals mixed together in a container like a milk shake or fruit smoothie.
 
Research chemical facilities suddenly selling "ketamine" is a trope that's gone by in Flemish news.

It's a despicable journalism routine here, undermining the sovereignty of consciousness.

It's a tiny slippery slope, but it's there, and I feel it when I read it.
 
Someone on IG posted this:

"Furthermore, traditionally used plant medicines containing 5-MeO-DMT, such as yopo and vilca, already exist"

And I corrected him that yopo doesn't contain 5-MeO-DMT. I posted three quotes to support my argument (see below). This was his response:

"Referencing documented sources without relevant context adds little to the discussion. On the point regarding Yopo, you are correct that findings on its 5-MeO-DMT content have been inconsistent across studies. But there are numerous other plant species and even fungi that contain the compound. So, what is your point?!
More importantly, even if one were to entertain, purely for the sake of argument, the notion that some ancestral lineage to toad use existed, which there isn't any evidence. It would still provide absolutely no justification for driving a species to the brink of extinction. That stands as an independent ethical issue regardless of any cultural claims made around it. And if the best contribution to this conversation is copying and pasting text that does not even address the core issue at hand, then there is really nothing further to discuss" larsiksadventure, 2026-04-04, h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/imcfund/p/DWhaW4nEjlp


"Although others have reported that the seeds (or beans) contain DMT and 5-MeO-DMT in addition to bufotenine (1-6), in fact only bufotenine was found in the seeds in this case."

Identification of Bufotenine in Yopo Seeds via GC/IRD. Blackledge, R., Phelan, C. 2006. Microgram Journal, vol. 4 Results and Discussion, page 5
https://erowid.org/library/periodicals/microgram/

"Analysis of the concentrated chloroform extract by GC/MS gave one peak with a fragmentation pattern consistent with psilocin or bufotenine. Analysis by GC versus laboratory standards confirmed bufotenine (not
quantitated)."

DEA Microgram Bulletin vol. XXXVII, no. 4, Apr 2004 YOPO SEEDS IN CRETE TOWNSHIP, ILLINOIS, page 69
https://catbull.com/alamut/Bibliothek/Microgram_(DEA_News)/Mar2004.pdf

"A second report carries, at least for me, much more impact. A study of the use of the seeds of a South American legume, 𝘈𝘯𝘒π˜₯𝘦𝘯𝘒𝘯𝘡𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘒 𝘀𝘰𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘳π˜ͺ𝘯𝘒 var. Cebil by the Argentine Shamans in Chaco Central, shows them to be dramatically psychedelic. And yet, extremely sophisticated spectroscopic analysis has shown them to contain bufotenine and only bufotenine as their alkaloid component."

Alexander Shulgin. TiHKAL. 1997. Part 2: #19 5-HO-DMT. EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY, second-to-last paragraph
 
"synthesis of a compound doesn't mean it's synthetic lol. Albert hoffman was the first to synthesize LSD and psilocybin, among many others, and both those substances are naturally occurring. Synthesis is most often finding ways to extract or procure a naturally occurring compounds, and while novel manmade psychedelics exist, the vast majority is found in whatever amount in nature."


"well hoffman synthesized lsd, but that doesn't mean it's a synthetic compound"

kgatlt, 2026-03-11 & 2026-03-13, h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/theflowerpharm/p/DVrulrzDT_x/

"nature's LSD" LSD is nature's LSD lol. kgatlt. 2026-04-08. h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/onjaemalyszka/p/DWt1ouHkQcu/ The quote refers to MG seeds.
 
"This is an idiotic move. I was present at the VA hospital when they were giving out Suboxone, and seeing those poor addicts scream and holler while standing in line was just disgraceful. The VA has gotten them so addicted to Suboxone that there is hardly anything left of them that resembles a human being, so now they want to get them addicted to something stronger. The medical community tried using LSD once before, and it was an utter failure. I guess we just can't learn from our past mistakes." Virgil2U 2026.04.18 Trump signs order to fast track psychedelic drug research to treat veterans with PTSD. Katherine Donlevy. 2026.04.18. New York Post

"It will not work like this. Watch millions will become addicted to it." Suneel Dhand, M.D. h‍ttps://x.com/DrSuneelDhand/status/2045573742353330604 2026.04.18

"So many people angry in the comments that I am against these drugs! I know junkies when I see them, normal people don’t get upset when you try to take their drugs away"
"Recreational drugs are always bad news, there will be massive abuse of this" Suneel Dhand, M.D. h‍ttps://x.com/i/status/2045584998846062821 2026.04.18
 
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A clip of Albert Hofmann was uploaded to Instagram and someone posted this in response because he mixed up the April 16 incident with the April 19 incident:

"Fake!!!!!! AI!! Or the doctor is a character looking for fame/fortune. If you read the real Albert Hoffman's book, LSD My Problem Child you'd know he was working with ergot, rye fungus and accidentally absord some. After his bicycle ride where he experienced horror and fear thinking he'd been poisoned, he realized it was the 25th derivitive that he absorbed. He called it his Problem Child after determining there was no predicatable dose or way to determine a person will not have extreme horror and anxiety. 1/4 milligrams is not a very little amount. Its 250 mics, a legit amount. If an LSD trip goes dark, theres no stopping the show" olympicspeedracer 2026.04.18 h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/psychedelicarchives/reel/DXR2zC1Do-t/
 
"It will not work like this. Watch millions will become addicted to it." Suneel Dhand, M.D. h‍ttps://x.com/DrSuneelDhand/status/2045573742353330604 2026.04.18

"So many people angry in the comments that I am against these drugs! I know junkies when I see them, normal people don’t get upset when you try to take their drugs away"
"Recreational drugs are always bad news, there will be massive abuse of this" Suneel Dhand, M.D. h‍ttps://x.com/i/status/2045584998846062821 2026.04.18

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I am 100% convinced that nearly all of the pro-psychedelic nonsense we are seeingβ€” is from people in the wellness space who use it recreationally.

It’s not from people with addiction issues.

And they think we are too stupid to see that.

Stay away from recreational drugs folks!
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Suneel Dhand, M.D. h‍ttps://x.com/DrSuneelDhand/status/2046213430986580243 2026.04.20
 
This is a response to one of my posts on Instagram:

"if you think quoting a fucking salon article proves these drugs don’t melt your brain you’re just proving us right. You all love drugs, just admit. Don’t spread the disinformation that this type of shit isn’t dangerous. It is, just like any other mild altering substance. People like you are the reason folks fall into addiction."  mountaindeku  2026.04.30  h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/thehallucinarrator/reel/DXsw22gBCXh/

My post:

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There's a few bits of 𝘩𝘒𝘳𝘴𝘩 info out there. Examples:

"Quaaludes and lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) were each associated with a significantly increased risk of [non-Hodgkin's lymphoma] in men with risk greater among those with more frequent use of these drugs."ㆍ10.1038/bjc.1997.590

"If you take LSD even once, your children may be born malformed or even retarded."ㆍThe Newly Discovered Dangers of LSD. The Saturday Evening Post. 1967.08.12

This info needs to be addressed in the most professional manner, otherwise antidruggers will always use it to try to tear down the movement.

I'm documenting the chromosome damage myth in this thread, https://www.bluelight.org/community/posts/16175604

This is a good quote:

"Based on extensive human experience, it is generally acknowledged that psychedelics do not elicit addiction or compulsive use and that there is little evidence for an association between psychedelic use and birth defects, chromosome damage, lasting mental illness, or toxic effects to the brain or other body organs,"ㆍTeri KrebsㆍEmmaSofia and the case for psychedelic legalization. Joanna Rothkopf. 2015.04.03. https://www.salon.com/2015/04/03/emmasofia_and_the_case_for_psychedelic_legalization/

@emmasofiaklinikkene
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We’ve known for years heavy marijuana use is linked to psychosis, hyperemesis syndrome, cognitive impairment, increased cardiovascular risk, etc especially in young men.

This isn’t new science.

It hasn’t led headlines because politics and profit drown out inconvenient data.
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Nicole Saphier, MD  @NBSaphierMD

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Wonderful to see the future Surgeon General recognizes the dangers of pot!

It’s terrible, and fries your brain.

Stay away from weed!

[ps. Drinking a mild amount of red wine or a Gin and Tonic is fineβ€” and may even be healthy for a lot of people who are baseline healthy and slim]
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h‍ttps://x.com/DrSuneelDhand/status/2050004016118092110 2026-04-30
 
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