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Miscellaneous Official Hall Of Shame Thread - Less Fiction More Facts

red22

red22

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I've noticed that people post ridiculous comments on the Internet and some of them are especially ridiculous. I think we should copy these types of comments into a hall of shame. Some examples:

"LSD is a chemical found in nature actually (ergot)."


"I never said LSD was ergot. It is found in ergot, and ergot is part of nature - so its a chemical found in nature the same way DMT is a chemical found in nature."

MapachoCura, 2024-07-12, h‍ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Ayahuasca/comments/1e0yjuq/comment/lcu8t9j/ & h‍ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Ayahuasca/comments/1e0yjuq/comment/lcuowqq/


"synthesis of a compound doesn't mean it's synthetic lol. Albert hoffman was the first to synthesize LSD and psilocybin, among many others, and both those substances are naturally occurring. Synthesis is most often finding ways to extract or procure a naturally occurring compounds, and while novel manmade psychedelics exist, the vast majority is found in whatever amount in nature."


"well hoffman synthesized lsd, but that doesn't mean it's a synthetic compound"

kgatlt, 2026-03-11 & 2026-03-13, h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/theflowerpharm/p/DVrulrzDT_x/


"There are many... probably hundreds to thousands of ergaloids and lysergimides, and most of the effects of these seeds comes from different molecules than actual LSA, as when experimented with pure labratory produced LSA from another skeleton that is workable, did not produce the effects of the seeds of these kind." Human_notsomuch, 2024-11-15, h‍ttps://www.reddit.com/r/LSA/comments/1grpycg/is_smoking_lsa_actually_possible_or_not/lx83hqh/
 
Esperighanto said:
I sure do wonder how much of this overlaps with how people will call any paper that makes them trip "acid". I've had people try to sell me "long acid" (unknown DOx), "bitter acid" (unknown 25X-NBXX), "happy acid" (low dosed LSD), etc.
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Let's not forget the good acid and bad acid.
Or how some associate a specific blotter art or pill press with a set of effects.
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
It's been a tradition since the 1960's, abiet not a good tradition :cool:

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I can't begin to imagine how many people went into paranoia after hearing those announcements.

How about: "The effects of the blue blotters circulating today take a long time to come on. Do not take more based on your initial impression that they are weak., they are not weak. Just wait and you will feel the effects.
Do not be impatient."
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
It's been a tradition since the 1960's, abiet not a good tradition :cool:

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Usually when they say "Bad-Acid" it's just High Grade LSD the person can't handle. On the other hand "if it's bitter it a spitter." because it's sign that it's a Psychedelic PEA or something else that isn't Acid.
 
Phobos said:
I can't begin to imagine how many people went into paranoia after hearing those announcements.

How about: "The effects of the blue blotters circulating today take a long time to come on. Do not take more based on your initial impression that they are weak., they are not weak. Just wait and you will feel the effects.
Do not be impatient."
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Indeed !
MedicinalUser247 said:
Usually when they say "Bad-Acid" it's just High Grade LSD the person can't handle. On the other hand "if it's bitter it a spitter." because it's sign that it's a Psychedelic PEA or something else that isn't Acid.
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I've been acquainted with LSD since 1964/65, even had the pleasure of tasting Owsley's fine offering. That's half a decade before Woodstock...
Thanks for for the enlightenment :cool:
BTW, who are "they" :LOL:
 
Yes, in 2026 we need a hall of shame! For sure. I get tired of what people accept as truth. I really do. And honestly I don't even know the extent of it until you all post. Long acid......eeesh. Call it what it really is.

We also need an answer to what the brown acid was. Was it just acid that was too strong or speed or something? At least back then there were 5 classes of drugs to chose from. Makes me wonder how many classes we have added since then.
 
JackARoe said:
We also need an answer to what the brown acid was. Was it just acid that was too strong or speed or something?
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The two main theories are that it was unusually strong blotter (in the 300+mcg range) or DOM. A lot of people said they enjoyed it and suggested that people take half a blotter instead. So I lean towards the first theory. The DOM/DOB theory hedges on the fact that people might have gotten in trouble from the blotter taking a long time to come on and ended up taking more because they assumed it was a weak batch. But we don't hear about anyone tripping hard for 24+ hours. Instead, we hear about people seeking medical care within 1-2 hours of dropping the blotter because they were overwhelmed. If it was DOM I'm sure we would have heard horror stories of people tripping for over a day and the various other issues that are associated with DOM.

At least back then there were 5 classes of drugs to chose from.
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Most of the "research chemicals" that were widely available on the internet from the late 90s-2010s were already in circulation back then.
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
The two main theories are that it was unusually strong blotter (in the 300+mcg range) or DOM. A lot of people said they enjoyed it and suggested that people take half a blotter instead. So I lean towards the first theory. The DOM/DOB theory hedges on the fact that people might have gotten in trouble from the blotter taking a long time to come on and ended up taking more because they assumed it was a weak batch. But we don't hear about anyone tripping hard for 24+ hours. Instead, we hear about people seeking medical care within 1-2 hours of dropping the blotter because they were overwhelmed. If it was DOM I'm sure we would have heard horror stories of people tripping for over a day and the various other issues that are associated with DOM.
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As far as I'm aware, the first known circulation of any DOx was during the 1967 SF Event where it was mass distributed, right? I didn't think it was around after that, and iirc that was in white lightning pressies.
 
Esperighanto said:
As far as I'm aware, the first known circulation of any DOx was during the 1967 SF Event where it was mass distributed, right? I didn't think it was around after that, and iirc that was in white lightning pressies.
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Well most people weren't keeping records back then. But there are a lot of stories of the usual suspects (same people flooding the streets with LSD through the mid-60s on) were dabbling with and handing out a bunch of other substances. One in particular that's rather famous said he used to walk around with pockets full of stuff like 2C-B and give it to anyone that wanted to try it.

LSD was so widely handed out because of its relative safety profile and the fact that making a small batch could supply an entire city for a long time. The substances that were listed in PiHKAL/TiHKAL were being used widely long before both books were published by the same people and their friends. For example ALD-52 was claimed to be what was distributed as orange sunshine back in 1967 and later as a way to skate the drug laws coming into effect to ban LSD-25.

A lot of stuff was being cooked up in various labs during the late 40s-50s and was already two decades old by the time the general public got to taste it in the mid-late 60s. We can't know who leaked out what when. But there are reports of a lot of different stuff being seen on the streets in the late 60s into the 70s. Then during the mid-late 80s through the mid-90s there was an explosion of different substances coming out long before people started seeking them out by name due to books like PiHKAL being published and later websites like erowid listing what was being sold by various early clearnet vendors. In many countries (e.g. Japan) a lot of things were being sold openly under various brand names in so-called smart shops years before most people knew they were widely available and cheap on the internet.

It easier to tell someone is was "acid" when it was being sold as blotter, geltabs or small pills instead of rattling off some chemical name they'd never heard of. Same way a lot of "ecstasy" circulated that was anything but MDMA through the 80s-90s.

I will always contend that the "brown acid" wasn't anything but LSD or ALD-52 dosed a bit higher than most people were used to. Since there were a lot of people that were there that claimed they liked it. I feel like if it were any of the other usual substances that would have fit on to blotter we'd have more to go on other than "people were freaking out man". I for one wouldn't want a head full of acid in those types of crowds in the first place. Too many people. Getting double dosed would have made it far far worse.
 
I read that the East coast and West coast acid heads differed in the way they took acid. The east coast were more academic while the west coast enjoyed acid socially festival style?
Sometimes east and west coast clashed in their ideology as to the best way to take acid.
 
Tim Scully confirmed they did not cook ALD-52 though, so I'm not sure if it ever was around and circulated (around that time) and of course it is hotly debated if it does make much of a difference to LSD.
 
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Phobos said:
I can't begin to imagine how many people went into paranoia after hearing those announcements.

How about: "The effects of the blue blotters circulating today take a long time to come on. Do not take more based on your initial impression that they are weak., they are not weak. Just wait and you will feel the effects.
Do not be impatient."
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forget all that 500,000 people and only 600 porta-potties,lol. but, ugh.( no pun intended,lol)

Only 2 deaths, one from either a tractor or a cow and the other from an OD or a heart condition, depending on the sources.
 
Reminds me one time i was Montreal talking with a crack whore while waiting for her dealer to show up and shes talking to me about this "black death molly" and how when she showed it to her roomate her roomate told her "THAT'S BLACK DEATH MOLLY HOLY SHIT YOU GOT THE BEST SHIT IN TOWN YOU GOTTA SELL THAT CUZ THAT'S SOME CRAZY RARE EXPENSIVE MOLLY" like as if the molly being black made it any different like i bet that at one point there was a good batch of molly that was colored black but over here the color really just means which supplier it comes from, it's a way to make sure street dealers dont buy from rival suppliers and this bitch genuinly thought that it was like a different drug because of the color.
 
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