Jesus, I'm assuming you have a sky high tolerance? I feel like without a tolerance this would be the end of me haha.Dropped 200mg of Vyvanse 90 mins ago…should be high soon!!
Kinda, been doing this for years…I am wondering if it’s time for a break for a few months tbh…Jesus, I'm assuming you have a sky high tolerance? I feel like without a tolerance this would be the end of me haha.
Damn dude I would say so hahaha. There were points when I was a young college student where I'd body 30 addy 30s (or pressed addies) in a day to a day and a half, but vyvanse feels a lot more like high oral doses of meth bodied all at once, not in little bits like I was doing.Kinda, been doing this for years…I am wondering if it’s time for a break for a few months tbh…
Honestly always appreciate your messages, won’t lie and say that I’m not pretty shocked by my own impulsivity. It’s the contradiction of knowing it’s my own active choice to do a specific substance or to use at all, but somewhere I’ve always felt this inevitably when it comes to using anything that can get me feeling the way I want to.@Sp4rky you're worrying me going for meth again..
Ugh, mmh... I guess I just did myself a similar favor >.<Honestly always appreciate your messages, won’t lie and say that I’m not pretty shocked by my own impulsivity. It’s the contradiction of knowing it’s my own active choice to do a specific substance or to use at all, but somewhere I’ve always felt this inevitably when it comes to using anything that can get me feeling the way I want to.
It’s partially a fear, partially my biggest desire regarding opioids like heroin, morphine, oxy, etc… I know myself damn well if I got a source for those I’d be buying and using them instantly.
Won’t ramble too long as to not derail this thread, but the ‘rational’ part of me knows these addictive tendencies come from mental illness and years of trauma, mainly borderline symptoms I’ve dealt with since I can remember make up a big part of this constant ‘I don’t care, I love self destruction’ and ‘fuck wallowing in my own shit, I need to take care of myself’ fight constantly going on in my head .—.
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- couple hits of my weed vape
- 0.12g meth insufflated
Might snort a little more meth rn, shower & do chores then smoke a little and get working on uni stuff.
Feeling so calm and medicated when meth is hyped up to be this hypersexual, hyperactive tweaker drug is such a reminder I need to get on legal ADHD meds, fuck the mental health care system man
Have you compared it to MGM-15? For me 7-OH lasts about 3.5-4 hours orally/sublingually and maybe half that vaporized, whereas MGM-15 I've yet to vaporize but orally it's an easy 12 hours of duration, though the majority of it is down after hours 5-6.Ugh, mmh... I guess I just did myself a similar favor >.<
I got my hands on some 7-Oh...
The literal McDonald's experience - I'm lovin it T_T
So given the doses were given correctly that was ~ 2-3 mg 7oh + 4-6 mg MIT plus some other alkaloids in an enhanced extract taken at the calculated (but as usual not felt) peak of 3,4 g Maeng Da... T_T... It's not like I'm totally high or nodding but I can feel that goddamn warmth for once... And it's strangely reminding me of the happy gut feeling I had with SR-17018 a few times. Both are said to have this no beta arrestin activation to them - whatever that has or has not to do with anything... I could have gotten addicted to the SR-17 as well just for that ( given the chance to restock that I didn't have)
Edit: Okay I guess that was just the inital kick. 15-30 minutes maybe. Explains why one might end up redosing ... No I won't...
I get this dude, both my fiance and I are significantly more calm, focused, and generally functional people with some form of serotonergic, sigma agonist and/or NDRA (like amphetamine, methamphetamine, lisdexamphetamine, etc.) in us. I benefit from NDRIs (bupropion, methylphenidate, phenylmorpholines like phenmetrazine, etc.) more than he does for some reason though. While timelines don't line up well, I suspect that 12mg of methamphetamine with 8mg of a longer-lasting 2C-B (perhaps 2C-B-5-EtO) and 40mg of memantine may be one hell of a combination drug for us.Feeling so calm and medicated when meth is hyped up to be this hypersexual, hyperactive tweaker drug is such a reminder I need to get on legal ADHD meds, fuck the mental health care system man
So far I didn't get to try MGM-15... It's on the wish list, but... You said somewhere that you found mgm-15 very stimulating, right? How stimulating is 7oh for you? Cause rn I'd say I'm involuntarily very much awake despite Mirtazapin Diazepam and Zolpidem (+weed) and rather tense (OK I redosed a few times but still), the sedation is gone and stimulation obv remains...Have you compared it to MGM-15? For me 7-OH lasts about 3.5-4 hours orally/sublingually and maybe half that vaporized, whereas MGM-15 I've yet to vaporize but orally it's an easy 12 hours of duration, though the majority of it is down after hours 5-6.
Ahh funny hearing someone with the same experience. Would be curious to hear what you and your fiancé’s experiences with cocaine or other re-update inhibitors of dopamine, serotonin, etc…?I get this dude, both my fiance and I are significantly more calm, focused, and generally functional people with some form of serotonergic, sigma agonist and/or NDRA (like amphetamine, methamphetamine, lisdexamphetamine, etc.) in us.
Cocaine and SSRI antidepressants are wastes of time for him and I. Tetrahydroharmine is a weak MAOI (fatal mixed with amphetamines and the sort) but also an SSRI that helped me a lot back in my ayahuasca days. NDRIs that aren't cocaine (NEP, phenidates, phenylmorpholines, bupropion) all work super well as stimulants. MDMA works well for us but it's somewhat sedative and can occasionally make me act uh, "demonically" I would possibly say? MDMA, anticholingerics like DPH, and potent opioids are the only drugs I've ever had turn me into a fucking menace.Ahh funny hearing someone with the same experience. Would be curious to hear what you and your fiancé’s experiences with cocaine or other re-update inhibitors of dopamine, serotonin, etc…?
May have been bad batches of coke, but I found it incredibly boring and flattening. Same with SSRI antidepressants, specifically prozac. That shit made me feel so emotionally flat I started doing impulsive shit just to feel something, compared to releasers of dopamine & serotonin like speed, meth & MDMA which I all love.
Yeah it's more stimulating that 7-OH or oxycodone which I already find quite stimulating. If you need to avoid stimulation, avoid MGM-15, but that also kind of sucks bc MGM feels a lot like a 7-OH that lasts 3x as long.So far I didn't get to try MGM-15... It's on the wish list, but... You said somewhere that you found mgm-15 very stimulating, right? How stimulating is 7oh for you? Cause rn I'd say I'm involuntarily very much awake despite Mirtazapin Diazepam and Zolpidem (+weed) and rather tense (OK I redosed a few times but still), the sedation is gone and stimulation obv remains...
Thanks for the info! You just rid me of a decision and saved me some money for more painful lessons I'd say.Yeah it's more stimulating that 7-OH or oxycodone which I already find quite stimulating. If you need to avoid stimulation, avoid MGM-15, but that also kind of sucks bc MGM feels a lot like a 7-OH that lasts 3x as long.
I'm glad somebody else on this planet consumes normal doses of 7-OH-Mitragynine, I've rarely found anything in excess of 12mg orally to be less than sickeningly potent.Thanks for the info! You just rid me of a decision and saved me some money for more painful lessons I'd say.I have zero desire to repeat last night's experience, especially since I already felt an ever so slight WD with my usual dose of Kratom today.
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4 g red Kratom,
25 mg dph
3/6 mg 7oh/Mit boofed (!), it's already in pg so I just tried and felt it slightly, much less than yesterday, but still. Likely not he best roa but things were better for a bit. Two hours later I'm now back to "wanna lie down and cry" which is my usual state after overindulging the prior day...![]()
I agree, though I don't have as much experience to give the exact mg, but (I'm) at 20 mg (and rn) I'm hitting nausea... Chasing the high with this stuff is overkill really... Guess it takes a week or so to reset before I can hit that rush again. And then It's gonna be 5 mg or so...I'm glad somebody else on this planet consumes normal doses of 7-OH-Mitragynine, I've rarely found anything in excess of 12mg orally to be less than sickeningly potent.
Not yet but I'm probably going to try at some point... For now I spoiled my chances, so have to take a t break first...Just out of curiosity, have you insufflated 7-OH/Pseudo?
AgreedI swear there's a delayed onset but lower duration and higher degree of stimulation, but I only really noticed this with pseudo and the more I tried it with 7-OH, I'm convinced it's only active by way of postnasal drip. The fact that 7-OH is so unique vaporized though tells me that there's at least some degree of variance between routes of administration.
Micrograms!??I've never had pseudo crystal clean enough to smoke, but this MGM-15 is the cleanest I've ever had any mitragyna alkaloid (almost 90% purity) so I'll get around to smoking some at some point soon. It's so potent that I'm probably just going to dissolve it in PG and vape that, since 7-OH can at least be weighed on a consumer grade scale that's one thing, but MGM-15 is wildly potent. If I exceed 900 micrograms of MGM-15 I'm fucked, super nauseous, spinny, etc., whereas 7-OH I can put to about 25mg and oxycodone maybe 40-60mg before any nausea would hit.
The presence of benzos negates all opi nausea for me, maybe it did for you too, I'm not sure. I've taken a fucking excessive amount of oxycodone, hydrocodone, and hydromorphone back when I was terminally ill just over a decade ago. The MGM-15 that's well active in the microgram range could also be called 1,2,7-Trihydroxymitragynine ,it's got two extra hydrogens attached relative to 7-OH-Mitragynine but it lasts 3 times longer and is so much more stimulating that I much prefer it. Smoke shops and gas stations here in Florida don't appreciate it though because they were making $40+ a day off the 7-OH addicts, but now people will buy a single $20 pack of MGM-15 pressies and come back in to buy one more pack 2-3 days later.Micrograms!??.. But fits the insane potency of these extracts... As I said 20 mg is enough for nausea for me, though I'm always on some sort of mix in addition to it... I had probably less than 5 pills of oxy in my life
... Checked my dose log and looks like 40 mg was my base for the mix on those days. Means I was adding Tram, Pregabalin, Tapentadol and/or benzos for a feel.. Those days I didn't note any nausea or other issues. Didn't have enough to go for higher doses ( literally
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