Trigger Warning Should public prayer be bannned in the UK?

[F.U.B.A.R.]

This is pertaining to the current debate about the mass Muslim prayer session in Trafalger square to celebrate the end of Ramadan.

In my opinion, this is a resounding 'yes'.

Prayer, should be a private affair, not a public spectacle with your arses in the air.

I'm personally sick of religion (of all denominations) being forced down my throat.

Do what you want, but do it in private.

Thoughts?

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

I once asked if I could add a pentagram to the sign outside the multi-faith prayer room at work.

They never got back to me.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

I once asked if I could add a pentagram to the sign outside the multi-faith prayer room at work.

They never got back to me.

Exactly. Why are there even prayer room in a place of work?

Aren't there enough fuckin churches, mosques and synagogues already?

Why bring your shit to the workplace?

We don't get injecting rooms...

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

They made a massive fuss over Ramadan. Allowed some people time to make a video, hand painting and the head honcho fasting in solidarity.

I wonder what would have happened if I was allowed to give my side of the story for fifteen minutes. Show people how flimsy their belief in supernatural superhero Jesus is. Which in turn exposes Islam. I'd probably be sacked straight away.

And yet other people are allowed to believe that you're condemned to eternal torment.

 

[Allylbenzene]

For anyone who didn't see it, here's the recent video of a christian preacher speaking in Whitechapel which appears to have a significant muslim population. The policewoman is telling all the muslim men that no laws are being broken. They're all really happy about that.



Since balance is important, here's the same person from above being pursued by "special" Jewish police somewhere near London iirc:

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

For anyone who didn't see it, here's the recent video of a christian preacher speaking in Whitechapel which appears to have a significant muslim population. The policewoman is telling all the muslim men that no laws are being broken.

Yes, I've seen that.

This female copper has got more balls than the rest of the police and politicians put together.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

For anyone who didn't see it, here's the recent video of a christian preacher speaking in Whitechapel which appears to have a significant muslim population. The policewoman is telling all the muslim men that no laws are being broken.



Since balance is important, here's the same person from above being pursued by special Jewish police somewhere near London iirc:

Shomrim are neither special nor police. Don't support them, but 'secret police' sounds a bit like an antisemitic canard.

They're basically neighbourhood watch.

 

[Allylbenzene]

Shomrim are neither special nor police. Don't support them, but 'secret police' sounds a bit like an antisemitic canard.

Whoever they are, they appear to police the area quite stringently. Describing them as police seems fairly reasonable. The notion of antisemitic is rather vague also.

Today, anti-Semitism is a term that has come to mean “prejudice or hostility toward Jews as a religious, cultural, or racial group.” According to Encyclopedia Britannica, the word anti-Semitism was introduced in 1879 by Wilhelm Marr, a German agitator who used it to describe anti-Jewish campaigns that were taking place in central Europe at the time. The term is, in fact, a misnomer, as true anti-Semitism would imply discrimination against anyone of Semitic descent including Arabs, Ethiopians, and other Semites.

— "police", verb
1: to control, regulate, or keep in order by use of police
= a city policing its streets

2: to perform the functions of a police force in or over
= the coast is policed by the military.

3a: to supervise the operation, execution, or administration of to prevent or detect and prosecute violations of rules and regulations
= an agency that polices the development of nuclear facilities

3b: to exercise such supervision over the policies and activities of
= policing government contractors

4: to make clean and put in order

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Unlike police they have zero powers, beyond your standard citizen's arrest. No dictionary definition changes that.

They don't have special powers just because they're Jewish.

Aaaaand you've brought out the standard 'antisemitism means nothing' trope. If that's true, then you can't call Gaza a genocide because they're the 'same race'.

 

[Allylbenzene]

Unlike police they have zero powers, beyond your standard citizen's arrest. No dictionary definition changes that.

Since they police the area the nickname of police seems appropriate.

...you've brought out the standard 'antisemitism means nothing' trope.

It clearly means something. Whether you accept the pseudo definition or the accurate definition. Perhaps calling it anti-Jewish is more specific for the type of discrimination being referred to.

If that's true, then you can't call Gaza a genocide because they're the 'same race'.

Who said I do (or don't) call it a genocide, and what's the issue if they're the 'same race'?

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

They call themselves police but they don't have police powers. That's the crucial thing. Anybody can 'police' an area by your own definition.

I could buy a military uniform and call myself a soldier, but I'm not one, and I can't go and shoot somebody at will. More's the pity.

 

[lost weekend]

Yes, I've seen that.

This female copper has got more balls than the rest of the police and politicians put together.

We were passing through Abu Dhabi Airport last year and there was a guy preaching at the top of his voice with a bible in his hand ,I got the feeling he did this regularly as knowone paid any attention to him whatsoever.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Do what you want, but do it in private.

100,000,000,000,000% THIS.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Allowed some people time to make a video, hand painting and the head honcho fasting in solidarity.

WTF!!!!!?????

I wonder if those people would do Shava Sadhana (Corpse Ritual / Corpse Practise) during Mahashivratri in solidarity with "Hindu's" also?
All you gotta do is get naked (most people do but not 100% of folks) & sit upon a corpse all day & night in meditation & chant Mantra.

Here is Manikandan Baba doing Shava Sadhana on his own Mothers Corpse just before she was burned.

I guess that doesn't get you "Woke points" though.
I bet your place of work is the same kinda place that will put up Gay Pride Flags when that event comes around DESPITE most of the people who take part in it have never had a Penis go in & out of their Anus till it's filled with Semen or the Women have never given Oral Sex to another Woman.

I bet you would be sacked if you walked into your place of work naked, covered in human ash, had huge Dredlocks down to the floor that haven't been washed in years, lit up a Chillum full of the worlds best Hash from Malana, Himachal Pradesh & began chating Tantric Mantra, the boss can't say anything to you as you are only showing respect & solidarity to the Hindu's of England.

I am sure the company will be 100% FINE with you looking like this in the office or greeting customers looking like this.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Allowed some people time to make a video, hand painting and the head honcho fasting in solidarity.

They also show how Saudi Arabia deals with females in their Wahhabi doctrine Legal System?

 

[Chaurus]

As I understand the Protestant part of the Christian religion, public prayer alone is frowned upon, but -within certain denominations- preaching in outdoor spaces can be permissable and in certain cases even endorsed.

Wasn't the Church of England supposed to be the State Church of the United Kingdom once upon a time?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

the Protestant part of the Christian religion, public prayer alone is frowned upon

Those lot will be displeased by anything.

The only person who was Christian & I've taken notice of in Leonard Ravenhill, that guy is from The UK & is dead now but his words cut down 99.99% of Churches & anyone who has anything to do with "Jesus" these days.

I can't stand the double faced piss taking of The Church but this guy I've taken notice of for years.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

As I understand the Protestant part of the Christian religion, public prayer alone is frowned upon

Prayer, should be a private affair, not a public spectacle with your arses in the air.

@F.U.B.A.R. Skip to 1:04 & listen to what he says over the next minute or two, his words on that part are BURNED into my memory & I quote it back to these Street Preaching types who shout in the middle of cities that we are all going to Hell etc, I have managed to get several to STFU, pack their sht up & fuck off back to the hole they came out from care of this guys lines.

When a Christian can silence another Christian & get them to fuck off is quite something to witness.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Shomrim are neither special nor police. Don't support them, but 'secret police' sounds a bit like an antisemitic canard.

They're basically neighbourhood watch.

What kinda "Police" are they when all you gotta do is toss some shell fish or Pork at them & they will run for the hills.

 

[lost weekend]

As I understand the Protestant part of the Christian religion, public prayer alone is frowned upon, but -within certain denominations- preaching in outdoor spaces can be permissable and in certain cases even endorsed.

Wasn't the Church of England supposed to be the State Church of the United Kingdom once upon a time?

Not sure about that
Scotland dosnt have a state Church as far as I know but the church of Scotland is our national Church which is a protestant Presbyterian kirk ,plus a branch off called the "wee frees" making it impossible to get a pint on a Sunday on the islands until recently
Northern Ireland has a similar church but more fundamental as you can imagine
Not sure about Wales