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Esoteric 60s footage of child and teenaged girls talking about the effects of LSD

red22

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Years ago there were viral B&W videos of a young child seemingly talking about how LSD affected him and clips of two teenaged girls who were on it during the interview. I just thought people would be interested to know that I found the source of these clips: the second part of a documentary about LSD called The Beyond Within.

Everyman: The Beyond Within: The Fall of LSD, S12 E11, Nov 23, 1986 (YouTube)

Unfortunately, some audio was removed because of copyright ("Audio muted between 3:11 to 4:30, 16:26 to 16:53 and 20:08 to 21:47 due to copyright.") so I encourage someone to contact the uploader to ask him for the unedited, indeed, the original file:

[email protected]
https://discord.com/invite/pVVrrxd (Domesday86)


Related: Brief clip of an infant sipping ayahuasca at Santo Daime

Source:

Taboo, S6E4: Narcotics. National Geographic. 2010-02-03.✱

Full segment:

h‍ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4sna7yVoo

h‍ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3d3RbtTyK4

h‍ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWTsI0IQ8t4



I asked how common this was in r/Ayahuasca and got some interesting replies: How common is it for infants to consume ayahuasca?

This post of mine also elicited some interesting comments: Mother regularly drank ayahuasca when she was pregnant

✱While some societies wage a war on drugs, other cultures embrace them for their medicinal, spiritual or even religious benefits. Despite their long history, drugs remain highly controversial. In one culture a drug may be sacred whilst in another that same drug can be taboo. In the United States, marijuana is illegal if taken for recreational purposes, but others are legally allowed to buy, prepare and take marijuana for medicinal purposes. Deep in the Amazon forest followers of the Santo Daime church believe that ayahuasca - a jungle hallucinogen used for centuries by shaman - is a holy sacrament that paves a spiritual pathway to enlightenment....

https://www.natgeotv.com/za/shows/natgeo/taboo
 
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I was going through some old issues of Duprees(old mag. devoted to the Dead) today as I was cleaning(supposed to be) the attic. I came across a story by Jerilyn Brandelius that I had forgot about and thought some of you might get a kick out of. This same story is in a book too' but I forget the name.

Jerilyn Brandelius is a member of the inner Dead family. She is also the mother of 2 of Mickey Harts(drummer for the Dead) kids. Well to condence the story down, the band was playing at a west coast venue. As with all of the Dead kids (children of the band, crew,ext) they were playing backstage while the band was playing a show.
Being naturally curious kids they were going through peoples stuff. They came across a bag and found a vile of white powder in it. On the metal lid was a letter C. Thinking it was cocaine and they wanted to try it they dumped some out and snorted it. Well the C stood for crystal and they snorted some very pure crystal LSD.
When the kids were found they were totally freaking out and rolling around on the ground.
She doesn't give a lot of details of the experiance, but says after a long and frightening night they were fine. These kids were 12 and 13.
This happened in the seventys and the magazine is from 89 and she makes it a point to say that both kids grew up to be healthy ,smart, and very energetic.

If anyone would like to read her account check out the fall 89 issue of Duprees.
Mickey Hart talks about it in some book or interview and i'll try to figure out which one it is. Anyone else seen this?

I just thought you might get a kick out of this story. I wouldn't advise going out and thumbprinting your kids ,but there event turned out fine.
My kids will be a little older before I offer to give them LSD( and it won't be a line of crystal to snort).
I don't condone giving 12 year old kids drugs, but again it's a neat story.
chinacat72, 2003-05-03, Crystal Kids

We were alway's high on tour. None of this give me 2 drops crap, it was more like open your mouth and squirt it in.
It was complete freedom. It was easy to walk out of a show high as a saint and see some saucer eyed girl and find yourself screwing before you even knew her name. Sex was as casual as smoking a joint.
Before the DEA came on tour LSD was everywhere. People just walking around dosing each other. Standing around with jug's of electric lemanade. Some even put it in squirt guns and walked around and squirted people. Then in shoreline in 90 a bunch of little kids were dosed by an idiot. They turned out fine ,but afterward's the dosing was a little more conservative.
It was a different world and a better one.
In the word's of Robert Hunter "it all melt's into dream"
chinacat72, 2003-02-25, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1335141#1335141

I remember a while back watching a documentary on LSD and one of the guys being interviewed in the documentary reported someone doing the exact same to their 5 year old son during the 60s and their son was just rolling about having a psychotic trip.

So my opinion still stands as this being a messed up thing to do, but that was a different time so people were less aware of the dangers of doing such a thing.
gulper2323, 2014-01-10, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19397599#19397599

I was nine when I first met MaryJane.. got visuals ect..
Icyus, 2014-01-10, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19397678#19397678

One of my friends smoked his first joint at 8 lol
mr sniffles, 2014-01-10, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19401179#19401179

the youngest person i have ever (unfortunately) smoked dope with was 3.

i had packed up a bowl, it made it thru the four adults, then the child was given the bowl, the parents had to light it for him since he couldnt operate a lighter.

made me sick inside to watch it happen, but it wasnt a situation in which i could say anything...and im not a small or meek person.

left immediately after the bowl was cashed w/ my zone of white and never went back or talked to them again.

did hear they quit letting the kid get high, but fuck them and everything about them.

also done blow with 12 year olds, brothers of friends, along with other opiates and pot. i never liked it, but their parents knew, and who the fuck am i right?

for 10 years now i refuse to do drugs with people who arent my age or mentality at least.
twohigh, 2014-01-11, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19401409#19401409

But I do know of many people starting psychedelic use as young as 13 or 14 to end up having no issues. Still very risky though.
wtoxic323, 2025-04-16, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29189809#29189809
 
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I'm not saying I was too young when I tried LSD but I certainly wasn't mature enough to fully appreciate it. The same goes with other drugs I tried in the 70s. However, there is a certain truth that life events happen when they are supposed to. I doubt at the time I would have refrained from taking drugs until I was more sure of myself. I think drugs for what it is worth contributed my growth and maturity, however, there is no way of knowing how my life might have been without drugs.
 
𝚀𝚞𝚘𝚝𝚎𝚜:

I have been present in Ayahuasca ceremonies in Colombia where it was also administered to children. The youngest was perhaps 4? Up to young teenagers. They are given small amounts, not adult doses, which is decided by the Taita.

I spent a week with a man in Peru, he came from a long line of Ayahuasceros. His father and grandfather would take him into the jungle from puberty age, where they would spend weeks camping and taking Ayahuasca together every 2-3 days.

There are a lot of ancient things practiced around the world that transcend the understanding of our western point of view. Looking down your nose at the way they practice something they've got thousands of years of experience with is... very western.

nuds, 2026-01-21, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29460587#29460587

When I first discovered liberty caps in the fields, when I was a teenager nothing stopped me from thoroughly enjoying these. I had plenty of good times and no regrets, when I look back.

RiPpLeZzZ, 2026-01-21, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29460592#29460592
 
h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/arterrarituals/reel/DUfkpngDZUn/ 2026-02-08

Transcript:

Isn't it interesting that in our Western worlds, mushrooms and pregnant women or breastfeeding women or in general mothers just don't work out together and that there is a huge... picture painted about this and in other cultures it is just so natural for pregnant women or mothers to attend sacred ceremonies with medicine hi my name is francesca and i talk a lot about mushrooms especially microdosing because i am a homeschooling mother and i have my own company and i could heal a lot of trauma in the last years with mushrooms so i really want to know first of all where are my mushroom mamas please comment here with a mushroom or something like this because i need to know where you are and then the second thing is i would love to hear your opinion about this topic and please only comment if you have an actual experience with those sacred medicines if you never experienced mushrooms if you are not a mother your comment here is actually not welcome and i really want to get rid of these false beliefs that are painted in the Western world about mothers and sacred medicines. We are literally oracles. We have something that is called intuition. Just apart from science, I know exactly what I need and when I need it. And I know exactly what my child needs. If something is dangerous, if something is inappropriate. And microdosing literally brings me... my everyday life because i am so much more regulated and i feel so much more connected to my femininity to my relationship to all what is so yeah i really appreciate your comment and don't forget to hit the follow button to explore more about micro dosing and mothers

Transcript made by Tactiq


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Don’t forget to read these facts 🤯:

2024 survey, “Mothers of the Mushroom,” polled over 400 mothers who used psilocybin mushrooms during pregnancy or breastfeeding. About 43% used them while pregnant, and 57% during lactation, with no deaths reported. Most sought support for mental health or spiritual wellbeing, preferring natural options over pharmaceuticals. Reported benefits included increased patience, emotional stability, and improved family connection, as summed up by one: “I was able to laugh and play with my children when before I was a depressed couch potato.” For 14 reported pregnancies, outcomes matched national averages; most babies were born full term and healthy. Dosing was mostly microdoses (<0.3g), prepared as capsules, teas, or similar forms.

Backing this, Amanda Elmore’s 2025 study (N=94) found that 96% of mothers using psilocybin during or after pregnancy reported improved mental health, such as less depression, anxiety, or PTSD. Over half (55%) preferred microdosing to stay present as parents. The study underscores potential, but urges caution, given unknowns in breastfeeding safety, small sample sizes, and self-report bias.

Indigenous communities have long histories of using plant medicines, including psychedelics, in maternal care. Among various Amazonian groups, ayahuasca is sometimes used in pregnancy under ritual guidance.
Central American traditions have documented psilocybin use by pregnant women, while in some North American Indigenous groups, peyote appears in ceremonies involving pregnancy.

In the Santo Daime tradition in Brazil, small doses of ayahuasca are shared in the final month to support relaxation, pain relief, and the sacred spiritual journey of birth. Elsewhere, mothers may use psychedelics postpartum or while breastfeeding, and some cultures have even anointed newborns with ayahuasca to formally welcome them.

WE NEED TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS!
Comment „🍄“ to show me that you are here, mama ♥️🍄🤰🏻

#psilocybin #psychedelics #microdosing #pregnancy
#holisticmama


I just want to add here that I know a whole community of women who had full psychedelic ceremonies during their pregnancy and microdosed during breastfeeding. They are all the healthiest, best mamas and have WONDERFUL children - highly intelligent and healthy 🍄✨♥️


"I think it woukd be beneficial for mothe rand baby"

fufu_jigga, 2026-02-08

@fufu_jigga I also believe that ❤️

arterrarituals, 2026-02-08
 
Upstate NY special ed teacher allegedly gave child psychedelic mushrooms

Caitlin McCormack
March 3 2026


A middle school special education teacher was arrested Tuesday morning after she allegedly gave psychedelic mushrooms to a minor at her upstate New York home.

Trista Corey, 33, is accused of doling out Psilocybin mushrooms to a juvenile, though it’s unclear how old the child was or their relation to the disgraced educator.


Geneva Police Department

Psilocybin mushrooms, more commonly known as magic mushrooms or shrooms, can induce hallucinations that toy with the consumer’s senses, including their basic perception of colors and shapes, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

Corey, a special education teacher at Geneva Middle School, was arrested at 10 a.m. Tuesday in connection with the December 2025 drug distribution, according to a press release from the City of Geneva Police Department.

Geneva Police Lt. John Van Savage told the Finger Lake Times that Corey was still employed by the Geneva City School District when she allegedly forked over the drugs to a child.

By the time Corey was arrested Tuesday, though, she was “no longer employed by the district,” according to a statement from the district.

“Geneva Middle School continues to operate safely under its established leadership,” the district wrote, refusing to comment further since the situation “involves a confidential personnel issue.”

Police issued a city court appearance ticket to Corey. She was charged with endangering the welfare of a child, which could land her behind bars for up to a year if convicted.


Corey was a special education teacher at Geneva Middle School.

The investigation is still ongoing.

In April, a teacher in Buffalo doled out THC-laced candies, disguised as Sour Patch Kids, to his students. The teacher, who was placed on paid leave, claimed he had no idea the gummies were infused with drugs.

Two students who ate the edibles were evaluated at a hospital that same day.

One of them, an 11-year-old boy, said he was “the scaredest kid in the world” and had no interest in taking “anything from no one again.”


https://nypost.com/2026/03/03/us-ne...r-allegedly-gave-child-psychedelic-mushrooms/
 
Fort Myers father accused of providing his children with acid, narcotics

Carson Zorn, Edward Franco

Updated: 11:41 PM EDT Mar 12, 2026

FORT MYERS, Fla. —
A Fort Myers father was arrested on Wednesday after he was accused of giving his child acid.

According to the Lee County Sheriff's Office, deputies responded to a call at around 4:45 a.m. of a disoriented 13-year-old boy found wearing only a T-shirt and underwear lying in a Fort Myers grocery store parking lot near Fiddlesticks Boulevard and Daniels Parkway.

The child was transported to Golisano Children's Hospital, where they told deputies their father had given them acid.

Deputies began to investigate and spoke to other children who told deputies their father would pressure them into using narcotics and would provide them with drugs, LCSO said.

According to the arrest report, Rivenburg's other children informed investigators that he advised them to try drugs with him because he "knows what he was doing."

"I'm just appalled. I just can't believe that a parent would be that uncaring," Kimberly Hunnel said.

Deputies located the father, Jeffrey Rivenburgh, 38, at the La Quinta Inn on Marketplace Road. According to LCSO, in the hotel room, deputies discovered fentanyl, LSD, cocaine and marijuana.

Mike Hunnel said, "Oh, it's a terrible thing to hear anything like that. It's a tragedy."

According to LCSO, Rivenburgh was intoxicated when arrested and faces charges of two counts of child neglect without causing great bodily harm, trafficking fentanyl, trafficking LSD, possession of cocaine and possession of marijuana.

Deborah Comella, executive director of Drug Free Lee, emphasized the importance of communication between parents and children to prevent drug use, noting that early drug use can severely impact a child's development.

"In many cases, the part of the brain that's affected is impulse control. So it's really important that we draw a firewall between ourselves and drugs and alcohol," Comella said. "We do that by talking to our kids. We tell them we love them. We tell them what to do in case of an emergency, in case someone offers."

Deputies say the 13-year-old is expected to recover.

LCSO said Rivenburgh has been booked more than 30 times for a variety of charges, including multiple drug offenses.

Rivenburg was taken to the Lee County Jail.





 
h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/arterrarituals/reel/DUfkpngDZUn/ 2026-02-08

Transcript:

Isn't it interesting that in our Western worlds, mushrooms and pregnant women or breastfeeding women or in general mothers just don't work out together and that there is a huge... picture painted about this and in other cultures it is just so natural for pregnant women or mothers to attend sacred ceremonies with medicine hi my name is francesca and i talk a lot about mushrooms especially microdosing because i am a homeschooling mother and i have my own company and i could heal a lot of trauma in the last years with mushrooms so i really want to know first of all where are my mushroom mamas please comment here with a mushroom or something like this because i need to know where you are and then the second thing is i would love to hear your opinion about this topic and please only comment if you have an actual experience with those sacred medicines if you never experienced mushrooms if you are not a mother your comment here is actually not welcome and i really want to get rid of these false beliefs that are painted in the Western world about mothers and sacred medicines. We are literally oracles. We have something that is called intuition. Just apart from science, I know exactly what I need and when I need it. And I know exactly what my child needs. If something is dangerous, if something is inappropriate. And microdosing literally brings me... my everyday life because i am so much more regulated and i feel so much more connected to my femininity to my relationship to all what is so yeah i really appreciate your comment and don't forget to hit the follow button to explore more about micro dosing and mothers

Transcript made by Tactiq


Description:

Don’t forget to read these facts 🤯:

2024 survey, “Mothers of the Mushroom,” polled over 400 mothers who used psilocybin mushrooms during pregnancy or breastfeeding. About 43% used them while pregnant, and 57% during lactation, with no deaths reported. Most sought support for mental health or spiritual wellbeing, preferring natural options over pharmaceuticals. Reported benefits included increased patience, emotional stability, and improved family connection, as summed up by one: “I was able to laugh and play with my children when before I was a depressed couch potato.” For 14 reported pregnancies, outcomes matched national averages; most babies were born full term and healthy. Dosing was mostly microdoses (<0.3g), prepared as capsules, teas, or similar forms.

Backing this, Amanda Elmore’s 2025 study (N=94) found that 96% of mothers using psilocybin during or after pregnancy reported improved mental health, such as less depression, anxiety, or PTSD. Over half (55%) preferred microdosing to stay present as parents. The study underscores potential, but urges caution, given unknowns in breastfeeding safety, small sample sizes, and self-report bias.

Indigenous communities have long histories of using plant medicines, including psychedelics, in maternal care. Among various Amazonian groups, ayahuasca is sometimes used in pregnancy under ritual guidance.
Central American traditions have documented psilocybin use by pregnant women, while in some North American Indigenous groups, peyote appears in ceremonies involving pregnancy.

In the Santo Daime tradition in Brazil, small doses of ayahuasca are shared in the final month to support relaxation, pain relief, and the sacred spiritual journey of birth. Elsewhere, mothers may use psychedelics postpartum or while breastfeeding, and some cultures have even anointed newborns with ayahuasca to formally welcome them.

WE NEED TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS!
Comment „🍄“ to show me that you are here, mama ♥️🍄🤰🏻

#psilocybin #psychedelics #microdosing #pregnancy
#holisticmama


I just want to add here that I know a whole community of women who had full psychedelic ceremonies during their pregnancy and microdosed during breastfeeding. They are all the healthiest, best mamas and have WONDERFUL children - highly intelligent and healthy 🍄✨♥️


"I think it woukd be beneficial for mothe rand baby"

fufu_jigga, 2026-02-08

@fufu_jigga I also believe that ❤️

arterrarituals, 2026-02-08

My journey with psilocybin mushrooms during pregnancy

I’m 6 months along with my little one & he has been guiding me on when to work with the mushrooms.

Before conceiving, I spent 700+ mornings in ritual with my womb space. Cleansing, clearing, opening...to gift myself, the earth, my sisters & the lineage I will carry forward purified timelines.

And if that sentence is confusing... your womb is not just a physical organ. It births timelines based on what it is carrying. As womb keepers, we decide what timelines repeat, die, or are born.

Even after 700 mornings clearing and activating my womb, this little one inside of me has been rewiring, upgrading and rebirthing every single thread within me from the inside out.

And then enter: mushrooms.

Each ceremony has been a sacred meeting with this medicine and conscious choice in communication with the spirit of my child.

She’s taking drugs! What a horrible mother! This isn’t safe!

And I understand why your immediate reaction may be such thoughts...the deep programs, the fear arising of what we do not understand..but when we intentionally work with plant medicine, we intentionally work with the consciousness of the Earth.

The mushrooms are the holy children...and also molecules of consciousness that exist before form. They carry an energy of innocence, of unconditionality, they open pathways, they dissolve illusions, judgements, programs.

Mushrooms are pure consciousness without programs...and babies inside of the womb are pure consciousness without programs.

How I have experienced mushrooms while pregnant is:

consciousness of the earth merges with the consciousness of the cosmos...witnessing light coming into form.

One ceremony I spent talking to my child for hours.

Another I received his soul. Another I released 300,000 year old grief. Another freed my bloodline.

Another ceremony he came to me and we talked for hours. I sang to him. He nudges me with reminders of what my body is asking for physically, be it dairy, citrus, a certain vitamin...

The mushrooms whispered in a ceremony: surrender, let us teach you. The holy children...a reflection that our children are here to teach us. The mushrooms have helped me let go of control to open and surrender to the wisdom of my child even before they arrive. To lead by example in love, to not tell them, but to show them. To not tell them who or how to be, but to listen with presence.

Working with the mushrooms and ayahuasca in pregnancy has felt like I am ingesting the consciousness of the mother...and allowing the purity of her love to meet the consciousness of my body to meet the consciousness of my baby.

(this is not a suggestion or an ode to a superior way of moving through pregnancy – our bodies are unique, miraculous vessels...listen to yours first)

ask yourself: what IS it that you are actually listening to? conditioning? or the bone deep wisdom of your body?

h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/elevatewithelliestiles/p/DWFZDboCMf1/ 2026-03-19
 
My journey with psilocybin mushrooms during pregnancy

I’m 6 months along with my little one & he has been guiding me on when to work with the mushrooms.

Before conceiving, I spent 700+ mornings in ritual with my womb space. Cleansing, clearing, opening...to gift myself, the earth, my sisters & the lineage I will carry forward purified timelines.

And if that sentence is confusing... your womb is not just a physical organ. It births timelines based on what it is carrying. As womb keepers, we decide what timelines repeat, die, or are born.

Even after 700 mornings clearing and activating my womb, this little one inside of me has been rewiring, upgrading and rebirthing every single thread within me from the inside out.

And then enter: mushrooms.

Each ceremony has been a sacred meeting with this medicine and conscious choice in communication with the spirit of my child.

She’s taking drugs! What a horrible mother! This isn’t safe!

And I understand why your immediate reaction may be such thoughts...the deep programs, the fear arising of what we do not understand..but when we intentionally work with plant medicine, we intentionally work with the consciousness of the Earth.

The mushrooms are the holy children...and also molecules of consciousness that exist before form. They carry an energy of innocence, of unconditionality, they open pathways, they dissolve illusions, judgements, programs.

Mushrooms are pure consciousness without programs...and babies inside of the womb are pure consciousness without programs.

How I have experienced mushrooms while pregnant is:

consciousness of the earth merges with the consciousness of the cosmos...witnessing light coming into form.

One ceremony I spent talking to my child for hours.

Another I received his soul. Another I released 300,000 year old grief. Another freed my bloodline.

Another ceremony he came to me and we talked for hours. I sang to him. He nudges me with reminders of what my body is asking for physically, be it dairy, citrus, a certain vitamin...

The mushrooms whispered in a ceremony: surrender, let us teach you. The holy children...a reflection that our children are here to teach us. The mushrooms have helped me let go of control to open and surrender to the wisdom of my child even before they arrive. To lead by example in love, to not tell them, but to show them. To not tell them who or how to be, but to listen with presence.

Working with the mushrooms and ayahuasca in pregnancy has felt like I am ingesting the consciousness of the mother...and allowing the purity of her love to meet the consciousness of my body to meet the consciousness of my baby.

(this is not a suggestion or an ode to a superior way of moving through pregnancy – our bodies are unique, miraculous vessels...listen to yours first)

ask yourself: what IS it that you are actually listening to? conditioning? or the bone deep wisdom of your body?

h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/elevatewithelliestiles/p/DWFZDboCMf1/ 2026-03-19

Mom opens up about taking psychedelics while pregnant, breastfeeding to ‘address’ issues. Emily Phillips, SWNS. 2025-10-31. The New York Post

Comments:

Take her child away……

Nancy Genova


Child abuse. No wonder today's kids are such a mess.

Lpdionisio1004


Medically, speaking, this woman has confessed to Gross prenatal child abuse. The child needs to be removed from the home at birth since she is a chronic drug addict.

Pulnakar


Sadly such women give drugs to their children and don't send them to school. Heard of such cases in the Hispanic community

Salepm3008


“Like many mothers I had a relationship with psylocibin mushrooms before I became pregnant", WTF said no other to-be-mothers. This woman just wanted an excuse to continue mushrooms. Look at her eyes in the pics totally stoned and she doesn't know how this may have affected her child now or later in life. She is stupid. When one gets pregnant, they quit doing bad things that could hurt the baby even if that means going cold turkey

Idiscodiva


Because it’s all about you…

The Great & Powerful Oz


Proof these drugs do not cure alcoholism but shift one drug to another. Stop practicing paganistic pharmakeia and repent of your sins following Jesus. The answer is not more drugs but God and I don't mean the de mons you encounter in those drug induced episodes. Steven Bancarz speaks about leaving the New Age hippie mumbo jumbo and finding the real answer to problems and surprise, it's not more drugs. It is God Himself.

Salepm3008


She seems to be attempting to convince herself possibly endangering her child’s life to satisfy her selfish desires is acceptable. You can handle 9 months of care to a child that could have its whole life affected by what you put in your body.

I have cared for the worst drug addicts and mentally ill patients who went drug free to ensure a healthy baby.

Bullheadgumbo1
 
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I sat with aya 7 months pregnant! It was so beautiful and it was amazing how little medicine I needed being so wide-open from pregnancy! Love that you followed your intuition and sat with a medicine

Those who get it get [it] and those who don’t, don’t need to be convinced it’s safe.

also, it’s not for everybody
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hoperaeyang. 2026-04-11. h‍ttps://www.instagram.com/elevatewithelliestiles/p/DW91X_1GKD_
 
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Is it safe to consume psilocybin mushrooms during pregnancy?

Based on research such as the c-psilocin experiment with pregnant rat mothers, which concluded that no fetuses died in the process, and our survey of almost 400 mothers, we are excited to analyze and continue finding conclusions, however, at this time, there is no conclusive evidence showing increased risk for developmental disabilities or delays or evidence suggesting that psilocybin mushrooms may be safe for use during pregnancy.

It is essential to consult with healthcare providers before making any decisions regarding psychedelic use during pregnancy.

As an organization, Mothers of the Mushroom, has been collecting data from real-world observational surveys of mothers who consumed mushrooms during pregnancy, breastfeeding and postpartum and reported their effects on their children. Read here to see what we learned from mothers who consumed psilocybin mushrooms during pregnancy.
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https://mothersofthemushroom.com/faqs/
 
Isn't it the Zapatec people who use psilocybin in a rather society-wide manner, children included? I have a hunch that some serotonergics are fine for children given the right cultural and/or religious context, highly controversial take to some though.
 
"I’ve been using weed since I was seven years old because my parents were drug dealers who would sell acid shrooms weed and other drugs."

"I’ve literally been smoking for nine years at this point almost 10, and I’m completely fine."

@DakotaBingaman  2026.04.25  comment on this video: Mom’s ‘Bedtime Fix’ Leads to Teen Drug Scandal  @LawAndCrime  2026.04.24  h‍ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiCpxyaMZ2o

 
@red22 - good work fella! I can clearly see that you spent a LOT of time providing all of those sources and I am always happy to learn, always open to changing my position in light of new evidence. Your work is very much appreciated by all of BL as it demonstrates that if we do the boreing data-mining, we can and do uncover diamonds. Success is still 99% failure.

It appears that above around 2500-3000µg the subjective effects of LSD plateau. It would be interested to know if altering that 8 N-methyl moiety can be exploited to increase/alter activity even more and likewise if replacing the diethylamine with an (S,S)-2-4-dimethyl AKA chiral azetidine ring gives us insight into the lipophilic pocket that amide fills. After all, if you overlay the NBOMes the oxygen of the amide perfectly overlay the ortho methoxy moiry of those NBOMes.

Let's not forget that the (S)-sec-butyl amide homologue of LSD is actually slightly more potent (patented circa 1955) and indeed Sand or Skully (I forget which) was making that homologue in Canada as at the time it was legal to do so.

I have never tasted any of the NBOMes simply because they appear more toxic in overdose. Didn't a Scandinavian vendor and six or seven customers all die because somewhere 2C-B fly and 2C-B dragonfly had been mixed up? Rule 1 is simply 'don't get high on your own supply' and we are asked to take part in the 'mystery powder competition' where winners get to LIVE! Investment in a sublingual film cannot be such a high bar, surely? I suspect we have one or more chemical engineers and that's what they do. For me, 'enough' is the yield sought, but as if by magic, chemical engineers figure out the most efficient ways of making things. I noted that somone came up with a novel route to alprazolam which used more steps BUT avoided the need for a costly (and nasty) precursor. If's a totally different role and not one I could tackle, so I KNOW when a cetain person expostulates on pill presses, that's a demonstration of domain knowledge and is respected as such.

Would you trust someone on an NBOme to reliably perform what is after all a life and death call? Killing youself is one thing, harming others quite another.

FAB noted that the 8-allyl homologue of LSD was akin to the parent drug but 'with training wheels' which MAY suggest it indirectly increases extracellular monoamine levels. In fact I coresponded with Dr. Nichols and we mused on the addition of a methyl to the indole motif to test the hypothesis. We concluded it not to be a facile target BUT to his credit, when I mentioned that 7,α DMT (7-methyl AMT) had been developed as an antidepressant and that αET had been misrepresented as MDA with the original 1960s research by Upjohn, he didn't know, asked for the references and I provided them. So we had a proper chat. But he's a busy man who worked extremely hard and is now semi-retired so we no longer correspond as I feel he never wanted to be a known character and sadly, 4MTA was a research tool; abused. Yet he was blamed. Such people always have to assume strangers have hidden agendas; just becuse they are bombarded with mail and frankly life is too short.

I was lucky in that Dan was quite open to discussion on the topic and noted that at that time (late 1950s), the complexity of building the key precursor alone was in itself low yielding and resolving and choosing the LESS active enantiomer simply wasn't a practical proposition, even at the scales antidepresants are prescribed. But lest we forget, raecemic AMT was a prescribed medication in Soviet era Russia - 5mg tablets to be precice.

But we progress. Speeter-Anthony is dead and buried, Vilsmeier-Haack hack is Passé as of 2021 (兩千二十一).

I have posted this before but ChemOffice shows that the basic amine of said tryptamines overlays that 8N. So think about that indole more like a meta methoxy benzene. Hence the 5-MeO derivatives overlaying the DOx series with the classic 2,5-dimethoxy-4-<something> motif. In fact, wasn't dimemebfe just a bioisostere of 5-MeO DMT? Also 3-methoxy-4-methyl amphetamine was misrepresented as MDA in Italy during the 1970s.

Even today, it isn't a sensible model to discard the MORE active isomer but I DO suspect that when Ken Casey described AMT as the 'Rolls Royce' of psychedelice, due to the natural (chiral) precursor, he would have got that more active (S) isomer. But even if both have their place, a MER stratergy would likely need to be adopted as NO, you cannot simply boil it in a strong acid to some how produce a racemate and if one is active at 5mg while the other is active at 25mg, you will have a psychedelic : entactogen ratio that is unfavourable.

Sorry, just my own meditation there. But didn't Bjork imply that her own mother had consumed LSD while pregnant? I've always felt that she does employ the 'unreliable narrator' to curate her own image. It's show business so I don't see that as inherenly bad and when she became a mother, she protected her baby from the remorseless gutter press.

But once again, I feel endebted to the hard work of @red22 who has cut through the static to get to the factuality and that makes them a very special person indeed.
 
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BTW

US 3,296,072 - METHOD OF TREATING MENTAL DEPRESSION (Jacob Szmuszkowicz 1967) is your index patent.

Note TABLE 1.

Now the reason 7,a-DMT was not patented was simply because the Soviets (who didn't believe in patents... unless it was to their advantage) had already covered it at the same time as plain AMT.

BUT

For the specific usage, several suspiciously similar patents filed by different people in 2021 all cover the isomers of 7,a-DMT so I strongly suspect that this whole Markush structural approach to such VAST classes as (substituted) tryptamines is both corrosive and something akin to the parable of the dog in the manger i.e. patent zombies who have zero interest in ever actually helping treat serious illnesses such as clinical depression BUT will, in effect, demand huge sums not to sue. After all, a patent grants twenty years exclusive usage but patent to licence is averaging at around thirteen years. So if that zombie applies lawfare, even pharmacutical giants can lose years and nobody wins, it's a zero sum game and so very specific to homo sapiens.
 
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