Whats the best PED ?

The best anabolics are all potent anti-glucocorticoids (glucocorticoid antagonists).
They prevent the catabolic action of glucocorticoids.
Anything anti-cortisol is anti-catabolic by definition.

In general the most underrated ones are sodium bicarbonate and aspirin which boost ATP and mitochondrial synthesis of anabolic hormones.

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By the way most of the mental side effects of trenbolone i had were probably due of the complete gonadal suppression. Trenbolone is far more suppressive than testosterone. When you inject testosterone you still produce a little of your own testosterone, with trenbolone not. The production of all of your sex hormone is basically suppressed to zero, and this can lead to a lot of side effects. You can try to fix this taking pregnenolone and progesterone along side tren.
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It is highly detrimental to all aspects of life.
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However, if you want to try it just like anyone is curious to try recreational drugs, by all means do.

But better buy a butload of testosterone because you are going to need it for your next year and a half of HPTA suppression after a single tren dose.

There is nothing you can't achieve with test than you could achieve with tren given more time.
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The downside you propably already know about, low libido, especially after cycle, night sweats, low appetite, muscle twitches and cramps from hell etc etc.. the longer you stay on the wors everything becommes. 5 month after last i injektion my T is back to 20. Before i jumped on it was always between 37-41 nmol/l .
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Allylbenzene said:
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Of course you’re using testosterone with tren or any AAS for that matter. Also cycling steroids isn’t for those who come off. Is for those who are committed for a life. I’ve never come off my “off” is my TRT
 
cnnka said:
Of course you’re using testosterone with tren or any AAS for that matter. Also cycling steroids isn’t for those who come off. Is for those who are committed for a life. I’ve never come off my “off” is my TRT
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If it’s truly needed TRT and it puts you within physiological range then it is considered off. I’ve been on only script for about a year and it feels nothing like cycling. A lot of days it’s a struggle to get in the gym but I go
 
canadianpeduser said:
If it’s truly needed TRT and it puts you within physiological range then it is considered off. I’ve been on only script for about a year and it feels nothing like cycling. A lot of days it’s a struggle to get in the gym but I go
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Absolutely 150mg test cyp weekly I don’t feel any difference than natural I’m bored to go to the gym also nor I retain any more muscle mass from doing a cycle. I’ve stopped doing cycles 3 years ago and only TRT.
What I meant if you want to go on steroids there’s no point in doing tren deca etc and then come completely off you just fuck your body. If you’re on TRT you can run a cycle and then comeback on your TRT no damage done on your testosterone cause you’re already taking it exogenous. But if you come completely off your levels gonna be tanked and not comeback to where they were especially with the stronger 19-nors
 
cnnka said:
Absolutely 150mg test cyp weekly I don’t feel any difference than natural I’m bored to go to the gym also nor I retain any more muscle mass from doing a cycle. I’ve stopped doing cycles 3 years ago and only TRT.
What I meant if you want to go on steroids there’s no point in doing tren deca etc and then come completely off you just fuck your body. If you’re on TRT you can run a cycle and then comeback on your TRT no damage done on your testosterone cause you’re already taking it exogenous. But if you come completely off your levels gonna be tanked and not comeback to where they were especially with the stronger 19-nors
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that's why there is such thing as pct protocols. i got my wife pregnant after a month being off 8 month test deca primo cycle with a finishing tren cycle. no hcg or nothing all cycle.
 
Besides T, I have really enjoyed primo. Feels very clean, safer for a longer cycle, and the gains are retained after I come off. Hard to get now thanks to the raws from China being held up in the tariff wars. I've also used anavar and enjoyed it a lot for maintaining a cut look, especially how it thins my midsection while retaining muscle mass, but I don't like how it wrecks lipids and raises ALT/AST. I am curious about GH, but it's so unaffordable.

T is the safest though. I started with just TRT and generally revert back to that between cycles, but even the blasts have not had serious impacts. I will never understand why more men aren't granted access to TRT. It seems like modern medicine is dead set against helping men in this department.
 
Foreigner said:
Besides T, I have really enjoyed primo. Feels very clean, safer for a longer cycle, and the gains are retained after I come off. Hard to get now thanks to the raws from China being held up in the tariff wars. I've also used anavar and enjoyed it a lot for maintaining a cut look, especially how it thins my midsection while retaining muscle mass, but I don't like how it wrecks lipids and raises ALT/AST. I am curious about GH, but it's so unaffordable.

T is the safest though. I started with just TRT and generally revert back to that between cycles, but even the blasts have not had serious impacts. I will never understand why more men aren't granted access to TRT. It seems like modern medicine is dead set against helping men in this department.
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Dont even get me started on how hard it is to get TRT. I only got it because i told the gp that my shrink thought it was a good idea that i get tested for low test levels. Only for that i wouldnt have even gotten the blood test for it.

Since i started test i cant believe in how good of shape i managed to get in and how great i feel. Im in better shape at 43 then i was at 21 and doing bricklaying 6 days a week. Also i havent gotten any noticable side effects from it.
 
paranoid android said:
Dont even get me started on how hard it is to get TRT. I only got it because i told the gp that my shrink thought it was a good idea that i get tested for low test levels. Only for that i wouldnt have even gotten the blood test for it.

Since i started test i cant believe in how good of shape i managed to get in and how great i feel. Im in better shape at 43 then i was at 21 and doing bricklaying 6 days a week. Also i havent gotten any noticable side effects from it.
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Same here. I had to unfortunately use a very manipulative process to get it, which I succeeded at. My levels had dropped considerably since my early 30s, but I was still "in normal range" (at low normal) so no doctor would give it to me. Eventually I was able to get it, and holy moly... it was like night and day. Turned my life around completely, I ditched a bunch of other medications, and I am in the best health of my life now. Probably why they don't want to give it to men.

All the women in my life easily got HRT as they approached perimenopause. The men can't get shit. They're on antidepressants and other junk.

I sometimes wonder if I've been low my whole life. Fitness is 10x easier now. I tried so hard in my 20s to build mass but it was impossible.
 
Foreigner said:
Same here. I had to unfortunately use a very manipulative process to get it, which I succeeded at. My levels had dropped considerably since my early 30s, but I was still "in normal range" (at low normal) so no doctor would give it to me. Eventually I was able to get it, and holy moly... it was like night and day. Turned my life around completely, I ditched a bunch of other medications, and I am in the best health of my life now. Probably why they don't want to give it to men.

All the women in my life easily got HRT as they approached perimenopause. The men can't get shit. They're on antidepressants and other junk.

I sometimes wonder if I've been low my whole life. Fitness is 10x easier now. I tried so hard in my 20s to build mass but it was impossible.
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Same i could get strong in my 20's but not put on loads of muscle like i can now. I used to be always be pretty skinny
 
paranoid android said:
Same i could get strong in my 20's but not put on loads of muscle like i can now. I used to be always be pretty skinny
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In my 20s I had very rapid metabolism + probably not ideal T. Now my metabolism is slower and T is optimal, so I have been able to get massive. And I love it. I feel so energized and healthy all the time.
 
seedee said:
that it is. but there is a price to be paid to have the best lol. not talking $$$ either
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Ain't that the truth. Low dose for semi-short periods was my sweet spot. It's crazy when dudes that have never done a cycle start off with tren and some even use tren enanthate at that. A guy at the gym didn't know what he was doing and kept pinning thinking it would hit as quick as acetate. He was getting bad advice. When it finally hit, his blood got so thick, his legs didn't work. He had to be admitted to the hospital and on blood thinners for 2 weeks.
 
Pharm grade Test
Pharm grade Primobolan (Rimobolan) from Turkey
Pharm grade Anadrol (Anapolan) from Turkey
Pharm grade Deca
Pharm grade HGH
Pharm grade Tren amps from France (no more)

That's your weaponry right there.
Whichever you can get of those straight from the pharmacy is the best PED.
 
Best for what purpose? IMO the best PED will be the one you can run for enough time to produce significant results without experiencing serious side effects.

It all varies, wanna lose fat? Retatrutide is likely your best bet. bodybuilder peaking for a show? Yeah youre gonna have to throw the whole kitchen sink at it, but the average guy doesnt need trenbolone as it will just cause issues.

Speaking strictly regarding AAS id say testosterone + a secondary compound you tolerate. A lot of guys will experience hairloss from DHT derivatives and get significant mental sides from 19-nor derivatives. This unfortunately narrows down compound selection a bit, but if you tolerate DHTs well then a decent dose of testosterone + primobolan and then GH and insulin will have a great synergistic effect and be tolerable mentally while not skewing bloodwork much, could also use boldenone instead of a DHT.

You could even do some unorthodox cycles like just using boldenone + injectable estradiol or either high nandrolone or boldenone + a really low dose of test say 50 - 70mg. This would ensure minimal hairloss and effect on prostate, just be aware that nandrolone is both neurotoxic and cardiotoxic.
 
opiandy said:
And don't listen to anyone telling you to take Tren, especially if you have zero experience with PED's.

It's careless and reckless to recommend Tren to someone with no PED experience.
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What do you think about Low dose tren? I'm aware that most people who are recommending tren are more so refering to low dose ( 25-75mg weekly) for vascular/fatloss benifits without causing the severe mental stress and u fucking up every molecule of sleep
 
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