Frustrated at the current limited range of drugs available in the UK - Early 2026

[ĐmantuNJofra]

don't agree that phenibut is a weak pregabalin, it's mainly a massively effective potentiator in my experience.

Whatever you have taken, even if it's just alcohol, it's going to feel 10 times better with phenibut. Phenibut makes alcohol seem almost as good as GBL. I think chemically speaking the combo is not a million miles away from GBL, and that is certainly the way it feels to me.

I must say I agree with you here as I also tried or still have pregabs prescribed it is great to have after ghb and phenibut for soft landing, but Phenibut is my top gabapentinoid when used with notion that Order of a bag or two so max 90g for some introspective idea loops with weed if alone or before on afterparties or even party with mdxx it boosts love for beauties dancing infront of me in orange or pink adidas sweatpants...

Than phenibut acts as sort of confidence with looking normal or grounded well you know when mdma is good peaking head is like full of helium almost stat to float so even ghb but it can be tricky with dosing on parties drop to much or lose tak of time and two hrs later yoh are outside waking up and folks arround you are you ok?, ME: Of course what?, aaaa ok sorry am good no more fu...g for me so phenibut is long acting and not that risky of blackout while on stim or dancing also I do not drink alcohol well didn't as we old ̀not that I cannot but the pull or urge or fork is not there anymore

I got these synesthesia effects by seeing the music and it is great for creative part of it also but in moderation.

But all in all pregabalin is more therapeutic or it has mild dissociative effect as like there is something missing and it kills stims that are chatinones while phenidates mph or rcs as coke goes well with pregabalin.

Now effects are subjective and most are universal.

Must mention phenibut overdose happened only when I took it alone or with loazepam once, not fearfull guy but od on phen scared the shit out of me, so be safe can a watch as if f.e. 1500mg doesn't do much wait at least 5hr minimum to dose again and not double but max half of dose taken.

Just advice from a former gabapentinoidfreak. Now am more for psychedelic voyages at home with crew or alone.

Stay safe and keep others around you safe

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Tell me about it - all you get here is twats wanting £200 a gram for fake grey 4-aco-dmt.

Anybody who wants that stuff is a Twat to begin with.
It is HORRIBLE.

 

[Bleaney]

yeah knew Kratom was, thought Phenibut was also illegal under the psychoactive substances act.

strange how they've not been prosecuted, wonder if it's the old "not for human consumption" angle

It's being sold as a supplement, which apparently is enough to bypass the NPS.

I wonder why more vendors haven't tried using that approach, as it obviously seems to do the trick.

It's a bit of a grey area though I suppose in some instances, as to where to draw the line between a supplement and a psychoactive substance.

 

[Jnowhere]

I almost exclusively by from DNMs, but don't really get the range of things I'd like to try. Is this always the case? I've used some telegram sellers but prefer DNMs with escrow and a veil of reviews I can look at, but if anything telegram seems to be even worse than DNMs.

There are some things I'd like to try that just never seem to appear anywhere e.g. kava, etizolam, kratom, phenibut.

I know I could buy kratom as a "natural hair dye" product from abroad, but that still seems risky.

only been back in the scene for 12 months, are things always so restrictive in the UK?

They don't sell kava, phenibut, or kratom at gas stations( actually phenibut is now banned in my state). So I guess you don't see 7oh at gas stations or smoke shops?

What are the weed dispensaries like in the UK? LMAO.

I am sorry, I couldn't resist. But everything is illegal in the UK. Kava is overrated.
Kratom causes it's own problems and 7oh is evil.
Phenibut, I have only read one comment that wasn't negative about that shit.
etizolam, not sure what that is.

But The UK banned anything, besides alcohol and I guess those codeine pills that need to bought in quantity and then the whole cold water extraction process.

The UK banned any "legal" high, probably because of the serious issues related to " bath salts" which were some sort of legal synthetic cannabinoid( mis, but don't care).

Black market for all that over across the pond. Cheers.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Been looking into phenibut, it's used in Weight Lifting among other things but the W.D.'s sound horrific.

When the RC ban came into The UK mostly due to some Cunts doing way too much MXE & ended up falling into a Canal & being dead the UK is in a race to the bottom of what will get you high, people will be posting about huffing the contents of their Fridge Gas next or doing that "whoonga" or "nyaope"

I may as well go down to the Gay Qtr in Brum, find some Homosexual who's short of cash & buy all his ARV medicine, cut it with some glass, Rat poison & random cleaning products from the Kitchen & start smoking my drug-stew, I am sure some idiots on here will buy it off me & I will be rich in a few months.

 

[LoginNotSecure]

Been looking into phenibut, it's used in Weight Lifting among other things but the W.D.'s sound horrific.

When the RC ban came into The UK mostly due to some Cunts doing way too much MXE & ended up falling into a Canal & being dead the UK is in a race to the bottom of what will get you high, people will be posting about huffing the contents of their Fridge Gas next or doing that "whoonga" or "nyaope"

I may as well go down to the Gay Qtr in Brum, find some Homosexual who's short of cash & buy all his ARV medicine, cut it with some glass, Rat poison & random cleaning products from the Kitchen & start smoking my drug-stew, I am sure some idiots on here will buy it off me & I will be rich in a few months.

Not a bad go is Efavirenz. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Not a bad go is Efavirenz. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

Had to Google what it is.
Common Side Effects: Dizziness, headache, fatigue, insomnia, vivid dreams, rash, and impaired concentration.
Serious Adverse Effects: Severe depression, suicidal ideation, psychosis, and liver toxicity.

"Anecdotal reports have surfaced concerning misuse of the HIV antiretroviral medication efavirenz ((4S)-6-chloro-4-(2-cyclopropylethynyl)-4-(trifluoromethyl)-2,4-dihydro-1H-3,1-benzoxazin-2-one) by HIV patients and non-infected teens who crush the pills and smoke the powder for its psychoactive effects. Molecular profiling of the receptor pharmacology of efavirenz pinpointed interactions with multiple established sites of action for other known drugs of abuse including catecholamine and indolamine transporters, and GABAA and 5-HT2A receptors. In rodents, interaction with the 5-HT2A receptor, a primary site of action of lysergic acid diethylamine (LSD)

 

[Allylbenzene]

Oh obviously you can get poorly grown roadman weed with only ludicrous level THC

Alternatively, you can legally buy the primary cannabis psychoactives ie terpenes & cannabinoids (CBG & CBD), and CBD can be turned into THC. Essentially DIY cannabis without interacting with illicit markets.

 

[Bleaney]

Alternatively, you can legally buy the primary cannabis psychoactives ie terpenes & cannabinoids (CBG & CBD), and CBD can be turned into THC. Essentially DIY cannabis without interacting with illicit markets.

Can you outline the process? I suspect exact details would not be allowed.

I've heard / read that THC can easily be turned into CBN. Apparently, all it takes is exposure to sunlight, air, and time.

Which is pretty handy for those of us that prefer a more chilled experience, than anything that makes you too mentally hyper and paranoid, as the high THC strains do for me, if I take any more than the tiniest amount.

I think I must be hyper-sensitive to THC. I wish I was hypersensitive to stimulants instead, but I seem to be hypo-sensitive to them .

 

[KurtAurelius]

Can you outline the process? I suspect exact details would not be allowed.

I've heard / read that THC can easily be turned into CBN. With just sunlight, air, and time.

Which is pretty handy for those of us that prefer a more chilled experience, than anything that makes you too mentally hyper and paranoid, as the high THC strains do for me, if I take any more than the tiniest amount.

I think I must be hyper-sensitive to THC. I wish I was hypersensitive to stimulants instead, but I seem to be hypo-sensitive to them .

Same here, I have to mega dose CBD/CBG to balance out the THC.

Terpenes are real too, I use professor herb and other terpene smoking mixes and it ALWAYS, makes a mega difference.

I have to also be on stimulants or caffeine as something about being low on dopamine makes weed more panicky, anxious and dissociative..
but this is largely me and it’s the complete opposite of the norm regarding stims and weed.

Btw I made a note of the mentioned CBD-THC previously but I’m sure Allyl can chime in for more detail

“ (credits to Allyl)

make my own THC via CBD isolate + concentrated lemon juice. Lemon juice is 100% food-grade, citric acid does the conversion job very well (see isomerisation) and CBD isolate is cheap & OTC.”

 

[Jnowhere]

Bleaney, Seriously do you think it is ever going to be legal to buy, sell, and grow your own Marijuana in The UK, as it is in my home State of Michigan in America?

It's being sold as a supplement, which apparently is enough to bypass the NPS.

I wonder why more vendors haven't tried using that approach, as it obviously seems to do the trick.

It's a bit of a grey area though I suppose in some instances, as to where to draw the line between a supplement and a psychoactive substance.

I just always thought that UK, would want the tax £'s for something that is so commonly grown illegally in ( Should I call, your country; The United Kingdom, England, or Britain )?

Here there is so much competition among weed dispensaries that they give away free joints and/ or edibles to new customers and some, on your birthday's.

Also billboards, coupons in the mail, and weed delivery. At least one chain has/or had punch cards for free weed.( cards that get punched with a special tool, so that after a certain amount of purchases, you get some free weed).

Is their any realistically hopes that (weed/ pot/ Marijuana) will be legalized for recreational use?

Here it is, Taxed slightly and no crossing state lines; I am genuinely shocked that The UK is still taking a strong stance whether or not it is left, right or a coalition government.

Do you realistically think that your great country will ever just say "fuck it" and legalize and tax the stuff?
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Yes, there are weird and mixed signals from both major parties in America, but regardless of your opinion of Trump: He is
actually not a big obstacle towards States rights and decriminalization of weed.

Realistically do any UK citizens/residents think that the tax and legalize approach will ever be a reality, in the near future or ever?

There is a cruel but real irony, that the same generation of hippie types wanna criminalize all drugs, including the "cannabis" that they smoked.

Will this ever change or is this a line in the sand type thing; that will only profit criminals and punish users and guerilla capitalists?

 

[Allylbenzene]

do you think it is ever going to be legal to buy, sell, and grow your own Marijuana in The UK, as it is in my home State of Michigan in America?

Imo no. Currently there's just private prescription which costs £££. The service quality varies and product quality too, a lot of it comes from Canada I think.

Should I call, your country; The United Kingdom, England, or Britain )?

UK includes England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The last 2 would probably prefer independence.

Is their any realistically hopes that (weed/ pot/ Marijuana) will be legalized for recreational use?
Here it is...

Imo no. The paradigm of population control and manipulation is applied a bit differently in UK compared to N. America. Using the beer analogy, the approved strains in N. America are like cheap beer. They have medicinal value sure, but it's nothing compared to champagne or wine. Obviously within the selection of cheap beer are more expensive ones and cheaper options.

Where do you find champagne or wine strains? Mainly tropical island countries, African countries, the Himalayas area, South America, Thailand area and anyone in the world still growing authentic psychedelic varieties from decades ago or anything from ACE seeds.

Will this ever change or is this a line in the sand type thing; that will only profit criminals and punish users and guerilla capitalists?

Ironically England has a few major legal growing operations which export product world-wide.

It is relatively easy to grow your own though.

 

[Jnowhere]

Imo no. Currently there's just private prescription which costs £££. The service quality varies and product quality too, a lot of it comes from Canada I think.


UK includes England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The last 2 would probably prefer independence.


Imo no. The paradigm of population control and manipulation is applied a bit differently in UK compared to N. America. Using the beer analogy, the approved strains in N. America are like cheap beer. They have medicinal value sure, but it's nothing compared to champagne or wine. Obviously within the selection of cheap beer are more expensive ones and cheaper options.

Where do you find champagne or wine strains? Mainly tropical island countries, African countries, the Himalayas area, South America, Thailand area and anyone in the world still growing authentic psychedelic varieties from decades ago or anything from ACE seeds.


Ironically England has a few major legal growing operations which export product world-wide.

It is relatively easy to grow your own though.

Thank you for, your insight into Marijuana and the law across the pond. I was leaning towards thinking that but not sure.

Well, if some can get it, there maybe hope. We do have strong weed here in Michigan, as I have been told

I seriously doubt I would ever grow it. But 12 plants per household is legal if you are 21 or over. You can buy 2 1/2 ozs. per day which is 70 grams.

We do have some good weed from what I have been told. But I have no idea.

 

[Allylbenzene]

Thank you for, your insight into Marijuana and the law across the pond.

The name marijuana gives retro old school vibes here.

But 12 plants per household is legal if you are 21 or over. You can buy 2 1/2 ozs. per day which is 70 grams.

That's pretty convenient though. Growing original tropical Sativa varieties (the champagne) but just say no to buying the beer grade stuff!

We do have some good weed from what I have been told. But I have no idea.

Imo maybe 1-5% of the approved American varieties are genuinely good, the rest are just like common beer grade. None of the psychedelic/cocaine-type strains (I mean that literally) exist in the American recreational market afaik. It's a bit like being allowed alcohol but only having beer, none of the more "refined" options.

 

[placebonaut]

Same here, I have to mega dose CBD/CBG to balance out the THC.

Terpenes are real too, I use professor herb and other terpene smoking mixes and it ALWAYS, makes a mega difference.

I have to also be on stimulants or caffeine as something about being low on dopamine makes weed more panicky, anxious and dissociative..
but this is largely me and it’s the complete opposite of the norm regarding stims and weed.

Btw I made a note of the mentioned CBD-THC previously but I’m sure Allyl can chime in for more detail

“ (credits to Allyl)

make my own THC via CBD isolate + concentrated lemon juice. Lemon juice is 100% food-grade, citric acid does the conversion job very well (see isomerisation) and CBD isolate is cheap & OTC.”

this is really insightful, I'd not realized you could do things like this, especially the terpenes being legal in the uk, very interesting, gonna have to take a good look into this, opens up a lot of options

 

[Bleaney]

Bleaney, Seriously do you think it is ever going to be legal to buy, sell, and grow your own Marijuana in The UK, as it is in my home State of Michigan in America?

I just always thought that UK, would want the tax £'s for something that is so commonly grown illegally in ( Should I call, your country; The United Kingdom, England, or Britain )?

It depends if The Greens ever go on to become a major force in UK politics. A recent bi-election saw them take a surprisingly large majority. The current 'big 2' parties of Labour and Conservatives are currently extremely unpopular, so we could start to see a shift towards either The Green Party or the far right Reform party. Greens have pledged to legalise all drugs. They are our only change imo. Unfortunately I think they currently hold only 5 'seats', which means 5 members of parliament, I think you need about 300 to 350 to win a general election. So they have a very long way to go, but if current trends continue they will at least be getting closer.

UK or Britain is fine, but those terms refer to all 4 separate countries contained within. You shouldn't assume that everyone in the UK necessarily lives in England, as they could just as easily live in Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland.

The other nations have their own identify and culture, and often despise the English, and many would be most aggrieved to be called 'England' or 'English'. There are Nationalist elements within each country, and they tend to want what Nationalists everywhere want, and have the general outlooks and views of Nationalists everywhere. Wales has it's own language, although only a fiercely proud and loyal minority speak it. I believe that the Scottish Gaelic language has died out, although there is still local dialect. And I think it's much the same in Northern Ireland, although I've never been there, and know very little about the place. (The politics of Northern Ireland and whether it should belong to Ireland or Britain is extremely long and complicated, and is still unresolved to this day.)

 

[Bleaney]

UK includes England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The last 2 would probably prefer independence.

I think Wales was almost 50/50 the last time they had a referendum on the subject, as was Scotland. The Scottish Nationalists appear to have just missed out, as they were riding the crest of a wave, not too long ago. But then all of their nationalist politicians went tits up, for various different reasons, and fell back out of majority favour once again.

 

[Allylbenzene]

I think Wales was almost 50/50 the last time they had a referendum on the subject, as was Scotland.

Tbh I hadn't really been keeping track of the Welsh situation but I'm not surprised they also lean towards independence.

The current 'big 2' parties of Labour and Conservatives are currently extremely unpopular, so we could start to see a shift towards either The Green Party or the far right Reform party.

If you look at the way partys are structured you'll see that most have behind the scenes groups/committees making the rules, reform have a front man who sets the tone (probably in-line with the WEF, imo farage is controlled opposition thus reform = sham party) which leaves Advance UK and Restore UK. Those 2 are unlike any of the other parties and at least seem genuine in their agendas, but obviously get labelled as all sorts of stuff.

Imo the labels of right and left are irrelevant and outdated now... a bit like the retro term marijuana!