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Discussing Bible Verses (What you say?)

Leviticus, 39-46. Anyone wanna try to reconcile this with... sanity, somehow? I ask in good faith but somewhat in jest because this is pretty low hanging fruit and I already understand much of the context, but still, I'd just like to hear from anyone who thinks this really means anything beyond the scribblings of a superstitious, presumably educated, fortunate enough to be able to write, historical figure while enraptured in some kind of nonsensical mania. :LOL: I'll add a little commentary just to make my confusion clearer.


(If your [male? realistically] friend/relative is desperately poor, don't make them a slave.)

(Neither should you enslave any Israelites, friend or not, and fear the punishment I will inflict on you if you disobey!)


(But if you do have slaves already, that's cool, you can keep 'em. In fact, feel free to get some more, from some godforsaken foreign hell. Feel free to also enslave the children of your current slaves, or any other slaves you might acquire. Your own kids can then inherit your slaves! Slavery is fine, remember, as long as the slaves aren't Israelites. Even if they're poor! If you're tempted to enslave that poor guy you don't like who lost all his flock to wolves last week, don't, because trust me I will do horrible fucking things to you if you do, be afraid, my wrath is a fate worse than death! Never forget how much you need to fear me, no Israelite slaves! Otherwise though keep on slavin' and selling those lil
pica-ninnies*
, what else are we gonna do, just NOT enslave people?! What are we, woke libtards or something? :ROFLMAO:)


...Haha, OK, thus concludes my commentary. I mean, what the fuck? Someone wanna explain how this book is so revered with mad shit like this throughout? How is it that given the bible is already a heavily edited mishmash of almost too many cooks, how is it that this entire section hasn't been dropped, or perhaps someone else could extrapolate some balancing act to this horrorshow, I dunno, divine revelation that Leviticus was an agent of Satan..? I mean there's a lot of scope for fixing shit like this in a story like the Bible, generally.

Also - *on that "spoiler" tag I used, actually I dunno how much of a slur that is in the context but it felt kinda dirty to write, I'm obviously trying to make a strong point, and also I watched an absolutely horrific dark alternate history film recently where someone said that and it's been stuck in my head. If it's profoundly horrible I'll just delete it, or, mods, feel free if you get to it first. But I am trying to paint a clear allegory here, of course, I know ancient slavery wasn't chattel slavery and transatlantic deathships but, this is the Word Of God, supposedly, and slavery is slavery... just never got over Eve eating that apple eh, we're all such deceitful sinners that it's no big deal to be enslaved. Unless you're an Israelite, then you're just better than those apple-munching twats. :ROFLMAO: Hah, sorry I hope this is that kinda thread or it's allowed to be but I just find the whole situation hilarious in it's absurdity.
A futile debate some of the brightest minds in recent memory could never win .
Rip CH
I'd imagine he would take offence at the idea of resting in peace lol
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

Jeremiah 32:35

Happy Beltane.


@HeadphonesandLSD....I like the new living translation it makes the important part of the scripture you quoted much clearer.
Jeremiah 32:35
They have built pagan shrines to baal in the valley of Ben-Hinnom, and there they sacrificed their sons and daughters to molech. I have never commanded such a horrible deed, it never even crossed my mind to command such a thing. What an incredible evil, causing Judah to sin so greatly.
 
A futile debate some of the brightest minds in recent memory could never win .
Rip CH
I'd imagine he would take offence at the idea of resting in peace lol
I think the problem is with the word "slave".

There are also verses which command the Jews not to treat their "slaves" harshly, in fact to treat them with kindness.

There are also verses stating that if you become a "slave" to do a good job at it.

The word slave has to be looked at in the context of the times.

If said verses were written today it would say..."workers"..."employees"..."laborers".
 
I studied a lot of religions, they're basically all the same they have an exalted one, whether it be god, buddha, the Indian people have their female person I mean just a higher being, law of Attraction has the universe whatever vibration you're creating etc.
Maybe the word "religion" is misleading for some things due to the connotations of the word. Somethings might be religion, others spirituality and atheists have their own thing. Regardless of this, a person has a certain ethos & behaviour with how they engage the world and themselves.
 
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1 Timothy 2:5-6 declares that there is only one God and one mediator between God and humanity
—Jesus Christ—who sacrificed Himself as a ransom to set everyone free. This passage highlights
the universal scope of salvation and the exclusive role of Jesus as the bridge to God.
 
Psalm 118:24 is one of the most famous verses in the Bible, offering a daily reminder to choose joy, gratitude, and celebration. [1, 2, 3, 4]
 
"Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does."

Never met my own Dad, seeing my kids toda. This about something deeper obviously ...
 
Matthew 5:1-12

Now when Jesus saw the crowds, He went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to Him, and He began to teach them, He said:
"
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
"
This. I see this everyday in every way. When Jesus was on the cross one of the dudes being crucified with him said if you truly are of God then you can have a legion of angels smite all them and free us. The other guy on the other side says they deserve their punishment, as they were criminals, but this man has done nothing wrong. Jesus applauded that. The notion that force could have been used but was not is something I still struggle with in my life. Sometimes when people hurt me I want revenge until I let it go. Not easy. But as I have said in another thread, with the enormity of the Universe my timeline on Earth is a spec out of the whole. I can follow these rules for my short life and know they are wisdom.
 
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