Tryptamines 服用4-Ho-met怎么避免糟糕的迷幻之旅

[小奕同学]

这是第二次服用4-Ho-met 我哪怕前面已经服用了150mg的普瑞巴林让自己放松 但我还是在服用后的一小时后和朋友聊天后出现了非常极端的情绪崩溃 让我觉得许多人辱骂我令人窒息 我近期并没有发生让我伤心的事情 我开始害怕我的人际关系 回想起来家人对我冰冷的态度 我和哥哥的关系一直都很不好 我在最无助最绝望的时候给哥哥发消息告诉他我好崩溃 这绝对是我情绪最崩溃的时候 或许是压抑许久的情绪在哥哥敲响我的房门 询问我怎么了 我突然放声大哭起来 语言逻辑也不清晰 但是他还是耐心的陪在我旁边 听我向他说了一晚上我的委屈 第二天我是下午才起床 但我还是无法放松我的心情 是到现在我还在昨天那次糟糕的迷幻之旅中无法释怀

 

[perpetualdawn]

Translation of the above from google translate:

This was my second time taking 4-Ho-met. Even though I had taken 150mg of pregabalin to relax beforehand, I still experienced an extreme emotional breakdown an hour after taking it and chatting with a friend. I felt suffocated by the insults directed at me. Nothing particularly upsetting had happened recently. I started to fear my relationships. Thinking back, I realized my family's cold attitude towards me, and my relationship with my brother has always been strained. In my most helpless and desperate moment, I messaged my brother to tell him I was devastated. This was definitely the most emotionally devastating moment of my life. Perhaps it was the pent-up emotions that made me burst into tears when my brother knocked on my door and asked what was wrong. My speech was incoherent, but he patiently stayed by my side, listening to me pour out my heart all night. I didn't wake up until the afternoon of the next day, but I still couldn't relax. Even now, I'm still unable to let go of that terrible hallucinatory experience from yesterday.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

How do you feel when you are not high? Do these same emotions surface when you are not under the influence?

 

[pupnik]

@小奕同学

revisiting the terrors of your experience affirms your astonishment but it also cements your attitude. however revisiting how your brother came to you in your time of need improves your overall position in the world.
if you are attracted to the negative that will be where you go, but if you are attracted to the positive that will be where you go.

next time you try this substance, use less and see how that works.

重温那些恐怖的经历，会让你更加震惊，但也会强化你原有的态度。然而，重温哥哥在你最需要帮助的时候伸出援手，会让你在这个世界里的整体形象得到提升。如果你被负面事物吸引，你就会走向负面；如果你被正面事物吸引，你就会走向正面。下次你再尝试这种东西时，少用一些，看看效果如何。

 

[小奕同学]

当你没有吸毒或吸毒时，你感觉如何？当你没有受到毒品或药物的影响时，这些情绪还会出现吗？

不会 近一周情绪都非常好 药效上来后我就开始呼吸困难然后就情绪崩溃了

 

[小奕同学]

@小奕同学

重温那些恐怖的经历，会让你更加震惊，但也会巩固你的态度。然而，重温哥哥在你最需要帮助的时候伸出援手，却能提升你在这个世界上的整体地位。
如果你被消极的事物吸引，你就会走向消极的境地；如果你被积极的事物吸引，你就会走向积极的境地。

下次你尝试这种物质时，减少用量，看看效果如何。

重温那些恐怖的经历，会让你更加震惊，但同时也会强化你原有的态度。然而，重温哥哥在你最有帮助的时候伸出援助手，会让你在这个世界里的整体形象得到提升。如果你被不良事物吸引，你就会走向正面；如果你被正面事物吸引，你就会走向正面。接下来你需要再尝试这种东西时，少用一些，看看效果如何。

是的 哥哥来帮助我的时候情绪确实稳定了许多 但是后续我还是持续了几天的情绪低落 我会采用你的意见 下次减少用量的谢谢

 

[Rabbit]

不会 近一周情绪都非常好 药效上来后我就开始呼吸困难然后就情绪崩溃了

Sounds like a panic attack induced by the tryptamine. Fairly common. Next time it might be prudent to have a fast acting benzodiazepine like alprazolam or etizolam on hand in case you face similar difficulties. But nothing will fix the underlying issue until you deal with it. Most bad trips are brought on by underlying repressed emotional issues that people refuse to deal with when sober. The psychedelic brings them to the forefront. Psilocybin and its analogs are well known for being more difficult in this respect than other psychedelics like LSD.


听起来像是色胺引起的恐慌发作，这种情况相当常见。下次遇到类似情况时，最好随身携带一些速效苯二氮卓类药物，比如阿普唑仑或艾司唑仑。但除非你正视并解决根本问题，否则任何方法都无法根治。大多数糟糕的迷幻体验都是由人们清醒时拒绝面对的潜在压抑情绪问题引起的，而迷幻剂会将这些问题暴露出来。众所周知，裸盖菇素及其类似物在这方面比其他迷幻剂（例如LSD）更难处理。

 

[小奕同学]

谢谢你的建议 那我还有一个问题 难道就没有办法完全避免这种问题吗 前两次都遇到了一样的情况

Translated by AI:
Thank you for your advice, and I have another question, and can't avoid this problem altogether?

 

[iom]

谢谢你的建议 那我还有一个问题 难道就没有办法完全避免这种问题吗 前两次都遇到了一样的情况

Translated by AI:
Thank you for your advice, and I have another question, and can't avoid this problem altogether?

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