MGM15 - 3 different sources laced with fetty

[Jnowhere]

LMAO, The Bluelight Amateur Detectives, have been going after this or these dirtbags still.lol

Good Work. Seriously.

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

I don't know why someone would be opposed to getting the product analyzed if they are confident it is what it was marketed as, unless they are worried about what will show up.

If MGM-xx products can trigger false positives in urine tests, wouldn't a reputable vendor want people to get the product tested and prove it is not laced?

Yeah this seems like a pretty easy thing to get a definitive answer to.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Yeah this seems like a pretty easy thing to get a definitive answer to.

This seems legit.

Couldnt you get a sample tested before going and saying ppl lacing shit with fent --- I mean if they are and you are 100% sure that is one thing but this sounds more like a lack of metabolite and chemical understanding.

That said, first time I have heard of this shit so I got no real experience based opinion. I remember ppl saying there was morphine in the u447780 (Or w/e the first ideation was lmao) and there definitely was not I was getting fulll NMR and lab reports with it
(Full disclosure -- too stupid to read a lab report but the chemists at the college said it checked out and were quite impressed, hypothetically and all)

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Fair--- I have heard pimpin aint easy.... lol -- Turns out there aren't 300 horny women in my town of 100 at any given time!! My false advertising suit is pending hehe

There are countless ripoffs and scams no doubt -- countless ppl selling sketchy powders with god knows what in them.

There are a couple that are good to they word (AFAIK lol) though and to ruin there reputation would be a pretty dirty thing to do in that world.

If it has fetty in it absolutely screw em -- but you gotta be sure as drugtests are funny things. Do you know what this substance has as metabolites? I certainly don't lol

 

[Jnowhere]

I tested positive for fent after taking 7oh tabs from a smoke shop. Almost lost me my housing and turned my brothers wife absolutely paranoid

From a smoke shop? Wow, that is scary.

Diphenhydramine( Benedryl)

I just looked it up. There are a bunch of drugs that can give a false positive including, I am not kidding, benedryl, risperdol, MDMA, Meth, and others.

But in most it seems like a higher concentrations.

Does this stuff come in a powder? The site said diphenhydramine and the outhers can trigger a false positive at concentrations above 1mg/ ml( whatever that means)?

I use fake benadryl from the dollar tree, to combat itching from my Oxy script.

I don't know much about this sort of thing.

Where are the pharma and chemist nerds when you need them.

Is it possible that these substances are being cut with them.

Apparently heroin can be cut with it. I am guessing #4 white powder h.

Is it possible that this shit is being cut with something cheap like fake benadryl or venders buying it in bulk?

Benadryl is OTC and the other stuff is legal in many states.

It is a real cheap substance and maybe it is being cut with that?

Not likely to kill, but drowsy yes. Not illegal either to pocess.

Is this mgm15 and 7oh a powder? Is it being cut with that? That would explain it, if the concentration levels are high enough.

I think that could be the case, because I pay $1.25 for 36x25mg tablets, to fight opiod itch and allergies.

I bet this shit is even cheaper in bulk and no risk of arrest or consequences of people dying.

 

[Jnowhere]

Even A.I. agrees, along with websites that confirm that diphenhydramine, can cause false positives.

Why use fentanyl when you can use a legal cheaper substance, to cut that stuff.

Shit, I just need a van, a retarded cowardly Great Dane and 4 friends who are bigger losers than me. Scooby and the gang only caught disgruntled Lighthouse keepers and others pretending to be ghosts, LMAO.

Lot of 1 comment posters arguing against @Beachbum251 and @thsblk getting their drugs analyzed.

Pretty suspicious.

If you folks have the means to send your drugs out for quantitative analysis, you would be doing the community some real good.

 

[Skorpio]

Theirs is a brief article which shows that kratom metabolites can show false positives for a methadone metabolite on a specific test.

A Kratom Metabolite Causes False Positive Urine Drug Screening Results for Methadone

AbstractBackground. The synthetic opioid methadone is utilized in pain management and opioid addiction therapy. Patients with methadone prescriptions are m

academic.oup.com

However, you should always be careful with new batches of drugs. In the past kratom has been contaminated with O-DSMT and killed, grey market drugs are not regulated.

 

[Jnowhere]

Theirs is a brief article which shows that kratom metabolites can show false positives for a methadone metabolite on a specific test.

A Kratom Metabolite Causes False Positive Urine Drug Screening Results for Methadone

AbstractBackground. The synthetic opioid methadone is utilized in pain management and opioid addiction therapy. Patients with methadone prescriptions are m

academic.oup.com

However, you should always be careful with new batches of drugs. In the past kratom has been contaminated with O-DSMT and killed, grey market drugs are not regulated.

I think they are cutting it with the dirt cheap legal and rarely fatal diphenhydramine.

Cutting one legal substance with a much cheaper one. One that doesn't kill. It is also used to cut certain types of heroin.

I can get the generic at The dollar tree for $1.25 + 6% tax. That is retail in small amounts.

Zero risk and dirt cheap( I bet it is what is doing it and maybe that with their are metabolites that cause problems but I never use or have used any RC's.)

It would be a perfect cutting agent and basically zero risk of destroying the market for powdered RC's.

Besides who drops dead from benadryl?

Also, this does cause false positives in urine tests.

It is proven. Besides A.I. and numerous sites are what put me onto this

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

wait the OP went from saying they tried four vendors and they all popped for fent to "I make 'mgm-15 and it is bullshit there is no such thing'" -- Or was that someone else?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-15 @4DQSAR what do you think -- this substance exist in the real world or have a strong possibility of existing? Beyond my knowledge level lol

MGM-15 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Benadryl has been used to cut H for awhile -- pink and vinegar smelling beats fent lol

wait if I order this product (Which is legal I presume?) and they unbeknownst to me send me fent is that a crime on my end?? lol

 

[Skorpio]

I think they are cutting it with the dirt cheap legal and rarely fatal diphenhydramine.

Cutting one legal substance with a much cheaper one. One that doesn't kill. It is also used to cut certain types of heroin.

I can get the generic at The dollar tree for $1.25 + 6% tax. That is retail in small amounts.

Zero risk and dirt cheap( I bet it is what is doing it and maybe that with their are metabolites that cause problems but I never use or have used any RC's.)

It would be a perfect cutting agent and basically zero risk of destroying the market for powdered RC's.

Besides who drops dead from benadryl?

Also, this does cause false positives in urine tests.

It is proven. Besides A.I. and numerous sites are what put me onto this

Maybe. Benadryl (any 1st gen antihistamine in general) has quite a distinct feeling with the antimuscarinic effects increasing heart rate despite sedation.


Where it stands now, we don’t yet know anything for sure.

 

[limemime]

This is more than likely the case.

What kind of test was the initial false positive on, and what type of test was the confirmation test?

Were any other compounds than kratom alkaloids identified?

I don't know what the confirmation test was but I had to pay $35 for it they probably did a gcms to see that it was just Kratom extract the test that the false positive was on was like a 25 panel dipstick test

 

[limemime]

This is more than likely the case.

What kind of test was the initial false positive on, and what type of test was the confirmation test?

Were any other compounds than kratom alkaloids identified?

I don't know what the confirmation test was but I had to pay $35 for it they probably did a gcms to see that it was just Kratom extract the test that the false positive was on was like a 25 panel

Where did you hear about the site? Youre pretty new aswell as literally every single other person defending this dealer lol
Also all using the same points
At least the first two, im 100% certain are the same person.

Oh no I'm not defending any dealer I'm just saying that it's possible that it's a false positive and you would need a confirmation test to actually see that it's f e n t those cheap tests always throw false positives I know tons of people who do Street heroin where did I hear about blue light blue light has been around for decades I've been on and off blue light for 20 years

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

sounds like about the best we got so far lol

 

[Kurt Cobain]

This seems legit.

Couldnt you get a sample tested before going and saying ppl lacing shit with fent --- I mean if they are and you are 100% sure that is one thing but this sounds more like a lack of metabolite and chemical understanding.

That said, first time I have heard of this shit so I got no real experience based opinion. I remember ppl saying there was morphine in the u447780 (Or w/e the first ideation was lmao) and there definitely was not I was getting fulll NMR and lab reports with it
(Full disclosure -- too stupid to read a lab report but the chemists at the college said it checked out and were quite impressed, hypothetically and all)

This sounds like your atypical paranoid know it all redditor who refuses to listen to reason. I'd be hesitant in even believing this person ordered anything let alone tested it properly with a test that didn't cost 99 cents

 

[Kurt Cobain]

I don't know what the confirmation test was but I had to pay $35 for it they probably did a gcms to see that it was just Kratom extract the test that the false positive was on was like a 25 panel dipstick test

There's absolutely no way Any company is doing a gcms on anything for $35

 

[Kurt Cobain]

wait the OP went from saying they tried four vendors and they all popped for fent to "I make 'mgm-15 and it is bullshit there is no such thing'" -- Or was that someone else?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-15 @4DQSAR what do you think -- this substance exist in the real world or have a strong possibility of existing? Beyond my knowledge level lol

MGM-15 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Benadryl has been used to cut H for awhile -- pink and vinegar smelling beats fent lol

wait if I order this product (Which is legal I presume?) and they unbeknownst to me send me fent is that a crime on my end?? lol

Nah that was the OP and my point too, he's full of shit. If he had the means to make his own 7 and mgm he wouldn't be buying from others in the large amojts he is, he also wouldn't need to worry about testing

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

This sounds like your atypical paranoid know it all redditor who refuses to listen to reason. I'd be hesitant in even believing this person ordered anything let alone tested it properly with a test that didn't cost 99 cents

1. Fuck reddit dont compare me to redditors. I followed the logical path of reason, question -- you know how many opi's trigger other opi drugtests right?

All I was saying is what should be PRINCIPLE - You don't accuse someone as selling fent unless you are 100% sure they are in fact selling fent. (Which indeed means going down every OTHER possible path before coming to that conclusion)
Same principle for calling someone a C.I/Snitch etc --- You gotta be 100% as that is a label that RUINS SOMEONE (possibly gets them killed)

you right though noone doing a GC/MS for $35 dollars!! I know that much....that is a dick with a reagent strip jackin the OP around. I mostly agree with you I just dont like the reddit BS lol

Nah that was the OP and my point too, he's full of shit. If he had the means to make his own 7 and mgm he wouldn't be buying from others in the large amojts he is, he also wouldn't need to worry about testing

I tend to agree -- but if you read carefully I think he actually said he talked to one of the main vendors and they say there is no such thing...... sounds like dude is full of shit but I maintain flagging competitors (or w/e is going on here) for fent is a bullshit move.

Idk I provided a drawing of the alledged molecule and a wiki page -- I am not a chemist. But do have a CC BURp lol So I order a "Kratom extract" and some damn crimiinal sends me fentanyl --- am I liable in anyway? haha

 

[limemime]

There's absolutely no way Any company is doing a gcms on anything for $35

Idk what it was but it was a confirmation test done through the county. So whatever tests they send to redwood toxicology lab. So maybe it was maybe it wasn't. That's not the point I was making I don't know why everybody on the fucking internet has to chime in and tell everyone they're wrong doesn't matter if it was a gcms or not it was a confirmation test to prove that it wasn't fent it was kratom

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Where are the pharma and chemist nerds when you need them.

In the lab getting high.

 

[daturetard]

Ez 7oh synthesis;
(In suitable reaction vessel) Dissolve mitragynine extract in alcohol.
Add a few drops of rose Bengal, ~4 drops for every 5 grams mit
(You can probably skip this part if inclined to chemistry; do not do this step unless you are ready to immediately follow it in <5 minutes by the sequential steps, as this reaction can form byproducts when reacting with gasses other than oxygen, and singlet oxygen is so cancerous it's not even funny, so wear a gas mask, yeh? A cheap one off temu works, if anything just replace the filter)
Submurge vessel in ice bath
Run tubing attached to oxygen tank into reaction vessel
Put an upside down beaker over top of the vessel down into the ice bath, sealing off the access to normal air, while allowing the tubing to run under the 'beak'
Bubble all air out with oxygen tank.
Reflux over stirbar (still in ice bath) for 8-36 hours
[depending on how long you have and extent to which you are trying to oxidize the mitragynine. Obviously on the lower end of that spectrum, theres going to be higher mit contamination in the final product as less will have time to react]
Use a large excess of citric acid, like a super saturated water solution of it, and add roughly an equal part of this as there is reactant to the vessel.
This destroys the catalyst.
Reflux on low at room temperature for 2-5 mins
Dry on hot plate (set on low)
While drying best to throw a capsule of quercetin in to quench any remaining singlet oxygen after the citric acid- better safe than sorry!