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Opioids Opioid withdrawal: The time has come for me to pay for yesterday

CavernsoftheMind

CavernsoftheMind

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I used kratom daily for about 9 years.
Part time I switched it to ODSMT in exceedingly high doses.

For the last two months I used SR-14968, sometimes a day nothing, sometimes SR-17018.

Now I'm trying to get off.
It's day 4 without SR-14968 & I feel pretty shitty.

Used 50mg SR-17018 today, which didn't help that much.
The withdrawal symptoms aren't that bad. Very little RLS, some hot flashes, I'm a bit sweaty, very tired. Not able to do much more than lay in bed, listening to music & watching Youtube.

I snorted 3-5mg MXiPr a few minutes ago. Let's see whether that's enough.

If things get worse, I'll use a GABA-ergic drug.

I have 11 days left till my travel starts.

The time has come for me
To pay for yesterday
When I was young...
 
SR-17018 this is not miraculously working for you? And what is the other SR all about?

Or possibly you mean that you will be using SR-17018 to kick the old habit?
 
Opana313 said:
SR-17018 this is not miraculously working for you? And what is the other SR all about?

Or possibly you mean that you will be using SR-17018 to kick the old habit?
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It's softening the blow for sure.
I'm trying to get off any opioid.

Taking SR-14968 for a few weeks definitely induces withdrawal symptoms.

So I'm trying to get clean from opioids by using one or two doses SR-17 for a few days.
 
Yeah i would love for that shit to be available virtually everywhere(after they make opiates OTC, of course lol) they could advertise it as your opium hangover cure...they or government could really make sooo much MORE money economically if they got rid of prohibition.

Anyway nice I hear it's a miracle so you should be all set?
 
Day 2.

Feel like shit.

Just took 30mg SR-17018, hope that makes it tolerable.

Singing along my music helps.

Had one of the most intense disso trips ever last night.
I saw the eternal wheel of life.
It was horrifying & great & crazy.

Good thing I have friends around me who were able to ground me.
 
CavernsoftheMind said:
It's softening the blow for sure.
I'm trying to get off any opioid.
...
So I'm trying to get clean from opioids by using one or two doses SR-17 for a few days.
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Here's a few things that will reduce withdrawal symptoms and speed up recovery from any drug. They do what SR-17018 cannot (and make it's use optional). Since they're OTC and cheap anyone can buy them.
  • low-dose pregnenolone
  • low-dose thiamine (w/carbs or honey)
  • low-dose nicotinamide (w/carbs or honey)
  • low-dose aspirin (metabolic repair)
  • theanine (sedative, no side-effects)
  • agmatine (used for opioid withdrawal and therapeutically for various reasons)
Optional but very helpful:
  • linalool (GABAergic sedative)
  • myrcene (potent sedative)
  • caryophyllene (sedative)
  • CBG
  • low-dose taurine (metabolic repair)
  • magnesium supplement (anti-glutamate)
Specific for opioids:
  • Sodium ascorbate
  • Thymoquinone
With all this there's no need for benzos (or they can be used at a fraction of the usual dose). FYI aspirin does a lot more than what it's known for, specifically general metabolic and mitochondrial repair.
 
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I was able to sleep for two hours after taking 1.25mg Lorazepam.

Woke up & feel quite okay now.
Very neutral.
Very relieving.

I should take a shower & a walk, plus clean up my room a bit.
 
Allylbenzene said:
Here's a few things that will reduce withdrawal symptoms and speed up recovery from any drug. They do what SR-17018 cannot. Since they're OTC and cheap anyone can buy them.
  • low-dose pregnenolone
  • low-dose thiamine (w/carbs or honey)
  • low-dose nicotinamide (w/carbs or honey)
  • low-dose aspirin (metabolic repair)
  • theanine (sedative, no side-effects)
  • agmatine (used for opioid withdrawal and therapeutically for various reasons)
Optional but very helpful:
  • linalool (GABAergic sedative)
  • myrcene (potent sedative)
  • caryophyllene (sedative)
  • CBG
  • low-dose taurine (metabolic repair)
  • magnesium supplement (anti-glutamate)
Specific for opioids:
  • Sodium ascorbate
  • Thymoquinone
With all this there's no need for benzos (or they can be used at a fraction of the usual dose). FYI aspirin does a lot more than what it's known for, specifically general metabolic and mitochondrial repair.
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Thank you for this!

To the OP good work! Cool to hear you went on a disso trip - i have found tripping to be a great way to take a real step back and look at not only addiction but overall health.
Plus it's pretty cool when you realize you are saving money for this or that(whether its a hobby you love or a bag of mushrooms), is A GREAT feeling bc lord knows that money is usually already gone for the ball n chain game if ya get my gist.
 
CfZrx said:
Shit, if u can access benzos it should be somewhat painless to do what you are doing!
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To anyone who can't get benzos or doesn't want to use them a selection of the following cheap OTC items will replace benzos entirely with minimal side-effects...safe for daily use:
  • linalool, myrcene, caryophyllene, bisabolol, nerolidol, cedrol, borneol (KO sedative terpenes)
  • phytol (pro-GABA via SDH inhibition)
  • CBG, agmatine (pro-GABA via α2A adrenergic receptor) safer alternative to clonidine
  • theanine, inosine (blocks adrenaline, pro-GABA)
  • magnesium (epsom salt topical absorption works v well)
 
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Still feel pretty okay.
Had a talk & got massaged by a very sweet friend.

Another friend brought me their Shakti mat & a massage pistol.
That shit helps & is less demanding than taking the bus to a sauna.

Will watch some Star Trek TNG now , trying to fall asleep without taking another 1.25mg Lorazepam.
 
CavernsoftheMind said:
I used kratom daily for about 9 years.
Part time I switched it to ODSMT in exceedingly high doses.

For the last two months I used SR-14968, sometimes a day nothing, sometimes SR-17018.

Now I'm trying to get off.
It's day 4 without SR-14968 & I feel pretty shitty.

Used 50mg SR-17018 today, which didn't help that much.
The withdrawal symptoms aren't that bad. Very little RLS, some hot flashes, I'm a bit sweaty, very tired. Not able to do much more than lay in bed, listening to music & watching Youtube.

I snorted 3-5mg MXiPr a few minutes ago. Let's see whether that's enough.

If things get worse, I'll use a GABA-ergic drug.

I have 11 days left till my travel starts.

The time has come for me
To pay for yesterday
When I was young...
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I feel your pain. While I have never knowingly tried RC’s, I am currently addicted to Fent, about a gram a day. By “Fent” I am referring to the “H” out there now. I am scared to death of withdrawal, I have been in it before and never lasted past day 4. At that point I just want to die but am too afraid to try. It is by far the worst feeling I’ve known. I sincerely hope you achieve your goal. There is nothing I can say that you haven’t been told already other than perhaps setting up a tapering regiment. But 11 days seems too near. I’m a newbie to fighting the addiction because I have spent 8 years totally giving myself over to my addiction, with no thought of tomorrow. Now I am at the point where I want to quit but I don’t see a way to do so. It pisses me off that we could create a drug that addicts could use to break addiction but there is nothing way our government would allow it. They make too much money off of addicts.
 
Day 3.
Still feeling bad, slightly better than when waking up yesterday & 2 days ago though.
I may be over the peak.

Maybe some Phenibut against the restlessness soon.

Slept almost 9h last night.

Trying to eat healthy. I'm also taking Omega 3, multivitamines, selenium, zinc & Apigenin.

Writing in my diary, listening to music. Will take a walk soon.
 
War wound, purple heart, love veteran
Morphine, pain killers, drugs and medicine
Anything just to forget the hurt
Incoming! Take cover, hit the dirt
On the front-line, there's casualties in the mind
And the POW's get left behind
Mentally scarred for life, love is war
And some chicks are just too hard to wife


Just took 666mg Phenibut.
Was able to take a long walk & sit in a café.
My dinner is cooking.

I feel almost like a human.
 
Day 4.
Damn, I feel way better!

Last night I decided to drink alcohol, since I wasn't feeling much from the Phenibut.
The withdrawal seemed too strong to be touched by Phen.

I drank around 2-2.5 litres of beer, was pretty drunk from that in combination with the Phen.

Had bad RLS for around 2h when I tried to sleep. Shit sucked.

I woke up after about 6h of sleep and it's getting better for sure.

Still some needles & pins, runny nose & adrenaline, but waaay less than the last days.
If it stays that way, I may be able not to take any drug today.

There's light.
 
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