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Hi,I’m from China — that country u love n hate

How would you explain China's drug awareness and culture in a way that a foreigner could abstractly comprehend

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On a societal level, China has basically zero tolerance for traditional drugs. Because of a lot of misleading—but extremely effective—propaganda, getting associated with drugs pretty much means social death.


Whether it’s cannabis, opioids, stimulants, or psychedelics—most people genuinely believe they’re all the same: use it once and you’re hooked forever. To them, shooting heroin and smoking weed are basically no different.


On top of that, if a drug user gets caught in China, by the third time they’re sent to a compulsory rehab center for two years.


China also has the densest street camera surveillance in the world, plus extremely strict monitoring of online money transfers. So dealing drugs in China is basically like standing on a ticking time bomb.


But here’s the weird part: if a compound isn’t listed in the official “controlled narcotics and psychotropic substances” catalog, you can be bold enough to have your runners meet buyers openly—because there’s literally no punishment. For example, a few years ago in China, selling 10 kg of O-PCE was legally no different from selling 10 kg of flour, as long as it was cash.


When you put all of this together, it leads to something strange: Chinese drug users tend to care first about whether a substance can pass a standard urine test—and only after that do they worry about side effects.
 
Hi! :)

This is an important issue I've thought about and would like to ask respectfully given this unique opportunity.

Do you think there is any direct or indirect thinking in the Chinese leadership or society that feels China being a large producer of drug precursors sold to the West is a fair turnabout of events given the historical oppression of China by UK in the Opiate Wars?
If we’re talking about some kind of dramatic twist of fate, I honestly think it would’ve made more sense for this to happen in the UK instead, haha.
But there were definitely some people in leadership who quietly tolerated it—as long as it wasn’t sold inside mainland China—because those chemical companies provided local jobs and tax revenue.
 
Are many Chinese dying from fentanyl od?
I should stress this here: China is probably one of the hardest countries in the world to get heroin. People addicted to opioids make up maybe one-thousandth of all drug users, if not even less. Everyone—including drug users themselves, even me—has an instinctive disgust and fear toward injecting drugs.


As for fentanyl, no one has ever sold it. Simply because it’s very easy for it to cause deaths, and that would immediately trigger massive public backlash.


Given the level of policing I mentioned earlier, the moment someone dies from an overdose, the seller’s countdown to getting caught basically starts.


No one dares to sell opioids.
 
I should stress this here: China is probably one of the hardest countries in the world to get heroin. People addicted to opioids make up maybe one-thousandth of all drug users, if not even less. Everyone—including drug users themselves, even me—has an instinctive disgust and fear toward injecting drugs.


As for fentanyl, no one has ever sold it. Simply because it’s very easy for it to cause deaths, and that would immediately trigger massive public backlash.


Given the level of policing I mentioned earlier, the moment someone dies from an overdose, the seller’s countdown to getting caught basically starts.


No one dares to sell opioids.
What about opium.. has been traditionally smoked in China?

What drugs are the Chinese using?
 
What about opium.. has been traditionally smoked in China?

What drugs are the Chinese using?
Like I mentioned earlier, after around 2010, it became almost impossible to find opioid addicts in China.


But the substances that do get abused in China? They’re… honestly pretty wild.


Nitrous oxide.

Synthetic cannabinoids — before 2019, they were basically everywhere in electronic music clubs. And yes, I mean literally everywhere.

Tiletamine — a notoriously sketchy veterinary anesthetic — was added into e-cigs. Heavy users could go through 200 mg a day of this stuff, which is like ten times as potent as ketamine. Absolute garbage.

Etomidate — also mixed into e-cigs.

These substances became almost as common as weed is in the US.

Notice what they all have in common? Every single one of them can pass standard urine drug tests.
Side effects and recreational value are always the last things Chinese drug users care about.
 
The drug “war” every where often makes no sense except when you look at profit and the ability for someone to use without sacrificing their life and whatever level of freedom they enjoy.

You all drink much alcohol? Meaning do the Chinese currently drink much?

We also have a splurge of less quality and more dangerous substance consumption due to legal regulations in the US.. it’s not as significant as it was. but still it’s here.

What are your thoughts on many people of the world attributing the majority of fentanyl being produced in China for export?
 
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Yep definitely love and hate China,I use to love my country, but I hate it,but no p!ace I'd rather be
Are you Chinese?

In today’s China, anyone with a decent education, independent thinking, or real-life experience can pretty much understand that loving your country doesn’t mean loving the Party. The Communist Party’s “brainwashing” can barely fool students who haven’t had any real social experience yet — haha.
 
The drug “war” every where often makes no sense except when you look at profit and the ability for someone to use without sacrificing their life and whatever level of freedom they enjoy.

You all drink much alcohol? Meaning do the Chinese currently drink much?
Heavy alcohol addiction isn’t actually that common, partly because East Asians have a much higher rate of alcohol intolerance than white people, so fewer people end up truly addicted.


But for many years, a lot of people didn’t even see alcohol abuse as a form of addiction.


In fact, when it came to business deals or dealing with government officials, being able to drink large amounts of hard liquor was basically considered a required skill — though that culture has been gradually fading in recent years.
 
alcohol use has also been fading in the states as well
When it comes to fentanyl, 2019 — before and after the deal signed with Trump — is a clear dividing line.


Before that, I think China definitely bore most of the responsibility.


After that, no labs or companies dared to manufacture fentanyl precursors anymore. Before those substances were officially controlled in China, the companies involved actually had proper licenses — production, export, everything was legal, and taxes were paid the whole way through.
 
When it comes to fentanyl, 2019 — before and after the deal signed with Trump — is a clear dividing line.


Before that, I think China definitely bore most of the responsibility.


After that, no labs or companies dared to manufacture fentanyl precursors anymore. Before those substances were officially controlled in China, the companies involved actually had proper licenses — production, export, everything was legal, and taxes were paid the whole way through.
where do you believe it’s coming from now?
 
@sashazhao - thanks for your reply, I hope you are not too tired of us by now, and I also hope you can learn here at Bluelight as much as you share.

With the seeming hypocrisy of the government (we all know what that's like no matter the country) drug laws, is there much talk in Asia about the "golden triangle"?

And I'm also curious, how do they (the government, but citizens too im curious about) feel about the difference between amphetamines and methamphetamine?
 
Do u think China is going to go to war with the USA
I don’t think so. It’s much more likely to be economic warfare and information warfare—trying to undermine China from the inside.


China already has very high unemployment for its own reasons, and foreign trade, which is a major source of income, has taken a heavy hit. Those are the two biggest issues.


As for an actual military conflict… I think landing troops on US soil would be at least as hard as occupying Siberia within two days.


The US and Canada are basically the backyard for corrupt Chinese officials and wealthy elites—their kids study here, they buy luxury homes here. That’s a fatal weak spot.”
 
The US and Canada are basically the backyard for corrupt Chinese officials and wealthy elites—their kids study here, they buy luxury homes here. That’s a fatal weak spot.”
Do you live in North America?
 
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