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Opioids cyclizine

Kushman3000

Kushman3000

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Can I order cyclizine to the US It sounds like one of the best potentiaters out there. Ive tried meclizine but didnt notice anything special about that one.
 
During the 1980s HR workers in the UK were struggling to help users who had become addicted to Diconal which is a compound medication containing 10mg of dipipanone (a methadone homologue) and 30mg cyclizine hydrochloride.

I remember it because the entire front page of Drink & Drug News had the words 'The Limits of Intervention' because it seems almost impossible to provide meaningful HR support for people addicted to Diconal.

In the end Diconal (along with diamorphine and cocaine) ended up on a (very short) list of drugs that required a special Home Office licence to prescribe. While Diconal is still technically still prescribable, the licencing meant in practice it's almost never used.

I mention this because Cyclizine was sold as a travel sickness medication called Valoid and some people would smurf pharmacies to obtain it. Why bother when Diconal was no longer used? Because someone discovered that injecting a mixture of methadone and cyclizine approximated the 'rush' produced by injecting Diconal.

All of the above is only included to impress upon you that cyclizine can be extremely hazardous. The hydrochloride salt isn't even that water-soluble and I've heard of people warming their bits and bobs so that the cyclizine wouldn't crash out in the barrel. I've also been told that other opioids of the 3,3-diphenylheptanone class also produce a powerful but poorly understood interaction with cyclizine.

So do be careful.
 
4DQSAR said:
During the 1980s HR workers in the UK were struggling to help users who had become addicted to Diconal which is a compound medication containing 10mg of dipipanone (a methadone homologue) and 30mg cyclizine hydrochloride.

I remember it because the entire front page of Drink & Drug News had the words 'The Limits of Intervention' because it seems almost impossible to provide meaningful HR support for people addicted to Diconal.

In the end Diconal (along with diamorphine and cocaine) ended up on a (very short) list of drugs that required a special Home Office licence to prescribe. While Diconal is still technically still prescribable, the licencing meant in practice it's almost never used.

I mention this because Cyclizine was sold as a travel sickness medication called Valoid and some people would smurf pharmacies to obtain it. Why bother when Diconal was no longer used? Because someone discovered that injecting a mixture of methadone and cyclizine approximated the 'rush' produced by injecting Diconal.

All of the above is only included to impress upon you that cyclizine can be extremely hazardous. The hydrochloride salt isn't even that water-soluble and I've heard of people warming their bits and bobs so that the cyclizine wouldn't crash out in the barrel. I've also been told that other opioids of the 3,3-diphenylheptanone class also produce a powerful but poorly understood interaction with cyclizine.

So do be careful.
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if its not water soluble its prabably not worth it unless you could turn it into a salt or something. I thought meclizine would be the same thing but i took 75 mg didnt notice any effects maybe they were bad or something they sell them a travel sickness also in the us. Do you have to inject it to get the effects maybe that why the meclizine didnt work i ate it. I want to try and mix methylene blue with my fave opiates and see what happens also. I wont stop till i find that perfect potentiater ive tried probably about 20 of them so far but im still searching for the perfect synergistic mixture of opana and a potentiator that prolongs the rush. Dxm and dramamine are 2 of the best so far but I dont like that they have effects of themselves. I wish i could get powdered 6-mam that would be the ultimate. I also read maoi will kill you if you take them with opi's and i dont like antideppressant anyway. THe maoi stops the opi from breaking down in your system so it prolongs the high but I would only use st johns wort since it has no effects on its own.
 
I really didn't get much off cyclizine. I think it's overated with normal low grade opiates. Never tried it with the hard stuff. Might be good for nausea.
 
BadBoy377 said:
I really didn't get much off cyclizine. I think it's overated with normal low grade opiates. Never tried it with the hard stuff. Might be good for nausea.
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In the book Trainspotting (it isnt in the movie) their dealer gets his leg amputated and get prescribed methadone. He also trades some of his methadone for cyclizine. In the book they say mixing cyclizine and methadone was better then heroin even.

I dont know where to get methadone but im prescribed morphine and would love to try cyclizine with that.
 
Yeah, I think it's just a methadone or related thing. I don't use methadone and no intention to start.

Trainspotting is awesome as are most of Welsh's books.
 
BadBoy377 said:
Yeah, I think it's just a methadone or related thing. I don't use methadone and no intention to start.

Trainspotting is awesome as are most of Welsh's books.
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As I said, it seems to interact with the 3,3-diphenylheptanone class so methadone, dipipanone, phenadoxone and so forth. I've never heard of anyone mixing it with dextromoramide (Palfium) but then again, injecting Palfium alone was dangerous enough. I've asked a few H users who were at it in the 1980s if they knew anyone who injected Palfium and a few said 'yes'. Then I asked if any of those people were still alive and the answer was 'no'.
 
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Believe it or not, someone in the US independently released a pop-up book about methadone.

What a time to be alive. Think of the most bizarre outlandish idea and nine times out of ten, someone WILL have done it in an irony-free manner.

Of course, a few BLers have mentioned IC-26 which is a methadone analogue. Now I'm somewhat suspicious because I suspect it to be cardiotoxic for reasons I have detailed elsewhere. But as far as I know, nobody has yet tried combining it with cyclizine. I pointed out that whie IC-26 itself may be cardiotoxic BUT the researchers also made analogues of dipipanone and phenadoxone so I guess someone could in theory produce face Diconal tablets...

Oh what joy that would be.
 
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