🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 Drug Culture *Social* v. Cultural Learnings for the Benefit of Bluelightistan

[Sp4rky]

Anyone else kind of feel like they need to take a psychedelic semi regularly for the benefit of their mental health? It's been a good few weeks since I've had a proper trip and I'm starting to get a very itchy brain. Hoping I'll able to find time to snaffle some acid over the weekend.

Still need to watch this. I wonder if I can find them on stremio.

I was literally just thinking about this haha, don’t have much experience with psychedelics yet, but I have this with K-holes. I find K-hole experiences to be almost like a pause of time, where I look at my life from a third, more objective perspective and with a brain that never shuts the fuck up, I find I desperately need these moments once in a while (I limit myself to once a week max, usually once every two weeks) to kind of reflect on and find patterns in all the chaos of daily life.

Currently have some good quality 2C-B I am planning to try out some time soon in a proper trip setting as I first want to see how I handle a more active/social, visual and ‘out in the real world’ hallucinogen compared to K which obv. is a very ‘inside your head’ and individual experience.

Would be curious to hear anyones experiences with 2C-B trips or any tips on set & setting

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Would be curious to hear anyones experiences with 2C-B trips or any tips on set & setting

2cb is one of the most versatile drugs in the world it can make you more social or more introspective depending on your intentions. Good for staying in good for going out good alone good with friends. It's good shit.

However, 2cb AND ketamine is imo the holy grail of drug combos. Absolutely sensational together, combined they create an entirely novel experience more than the sum of its parts.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

However, 2cb AND ketamine is imo the holy grail of drug combos. Absolutely sensational together, combined they create an entirely novel experience more than the sum of its parts.

I tried a 2C-C and MXE combo almost ten years ago. Wrote a report on erowid about it; didn't particularly like it. But I also foolishly didn't 'tune' with the MXE (using a small dose the night before to get in the 'zone' so to speak) and it was also my least favorite batch of legit MXE I've had.

Boy I wanna try Ketamine sometime soon. It's been heavy on my mind along with MDMA, the two drugs I've never taken that have always been on my bucket list

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

@Cream Gravy? and @Shinji Ikari : thanks for the reminder, it's noted...

 

[Sp4rky]

Man my dealer really thought it was a great idea to meet up in front of a Mosque where the evening gathering just ended. Then handing me my stuff RIGHT fucking in front of a whole group of Muslims too. Nothing against them btw, but did get followed for multiple blocks by a group of Muslim men.

Can I have one trip to the plug that isn’t me clutching my pocket knife for dear life .—.

In a way it’s funny and I lowkey wish I could joke with my friends about weird fucking situations like this. If I don’t laugh at my own misery what tf can I laugh at really. I’m safe now dw, definitely not choosing to meet anywhere near that area ever again.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Worked 15 hours today and it's 1:30am now but tomorrow could be my last day off for a couple of weeks so food sleep or drugs is proving quite the dilemma.

 

[Sp4rky]

Worked 15 hours today and it's 1:30am now but tomorrow could be my last day off for a couple of weeks so food sleep or drugs is proving quite the dilemma.

ouch I feel you on this one. The never ending dilemma of ‘if I used I could get what I want but at the possible expense of my body’ or choosing your health then sometimes hating yourself for it and wishing you’d just used drugs and pulled through .—.

Sending support as someone now debating whether to take a bunch of diazepam and avoid a panic attack for my final presentations or to not upset my digestive system even more, as I already feel sick enough as is

 

[deficiT]

Worked 15 hours today and it's 1:30am now but tomorrow could be my last day off for a couple of weeks so food sleep or drugs is proving quite the dilemma.

Those types of days can be a drag

Hopefully you got some rest in by now

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

i want to go on a valium binge but not get dependent.

maybe weed is a better choice but i dont really like the weed high too much.

 

[streaM Freak]

i want to go on a valium binge but not get dependent.

maybe weed is a better choice but i dont really like the weed high too much.

I feel you on that.

Sometimes i just want to aggressively release every tension so that i can chill for however many days later. Go crazy on my own terms.

Sometimes i wonder if i'd have as strong of urges if i lived in solitude on a big piece of property, with all of my basic needs met.

Not that that is what you were saying. Humans have the instinct to relate things to themselves first i guess right?

You don't like weed how come? Just curious. I see it as more of an emotional tool or an experience enhancer than a mindset i crave to be in, personally.

 

[KurtAurelius]

i want to go on a valium binge but not get dependent.

maybe weed is a better choice but i dont really like the weed high too much.

Everytime I take a break from weed I feel better to be honest, I may make this one permanent as I’m fed up of inhaling plant matter. I could buy a vaporiser but I’m poor and why not try just get off it?

Can’t recommend Valium binges, in my younger days I’d buy fake Blues and I’d say I will only take 2.

Next thing I know days have gone by, the pills are all gone and many people refuse to talk to me, and I slowly find out various nasty things I had said or done.

YMMV, but I was a classic bartard any time I took benzos.

The only way I’d ever be responsible was being given single pills and avoiding alcohol, but usually I wouldn’t avoid alcohol still.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

Everytime I take a break from weed I feel better to be honest, I may make this one permanent as I’m fed up of inhaling plant matter. I could buy a vaporiser but I’m poor and why not try just get off it?

Can’t recommend Valium binges, in my younger days I’d buy fake Blues and I’d say I will only take 2.

Next thing I know days have gone by, the pills are all gone and many people refuse to talk to me, and I slowly find out various nasty things I had said or done.

YMMV, but I was a classic bartard any time I took benzos.

The only way I’d ever be responsible was being given single pills and avoiding alcohol, but usually I wouldn’t avoid alcohol still.

nah i don’t suffer from the benzo overdosing.

i take a normal dose of 20 mg and chill and fall asleep on a cloud of bliss is how my valium usage goes.

i definitely feel happier when im off weed in life. but im also a drug addict and sometime external circumstances (it’s always chronic physical pain actually) pushes me to pick up weed again.

i don’t eve like the high, especially without downers to take the anxiety edge off, but usually the depression of being couch ridden four months and months while my peers are out boating and going to the gym gets me so fucking depressed i end up using weed again.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

nah i don’t suffer from the benzo overdosing.

i take a normal dose of 20 mg and chill and fall asleep on a cloud of bliss is how my valium usage goes.

i definitely feel happier when im off weed in life. but im also a drug addict and sometime external circumstances (it’s always chronic physical pain actually) pushes me to pick up weed again.

i don’t eve like the high, especially without downers to take the anxiety edge off, but usually the depression of being couch ridden four months and months while my peers are out boating and going to the gym gets me so fucking depressed i end up using weed again.

I don't like weed much either, but it puts me to sleep pretty reliably... Does it really help with pain?
Never felt anything like bliss from a benzo, it's just relaxation then sleep. I'm very careful to not get regular witg them though

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

I don't like weed much either, but it puts me to sleep pretty reliably... Does it really help with pain?
Never felt anything like bliss from a benzo, it's just relaxation then sleep. I'm very careful to not get regular witg them though

no doesn’t help with pain whatsoever.

just is a good distraction from the pain. i might get more engaged in a show or a game than i would be sober.

if anything it usually amplifies the pain higher; but the mental distraction is worth it if the pain isn’t severe

 

[KurtAurelius]

THC always makes me achey, it’s only adding lots of CBD and CBG is it actually a good painkiller.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

i don’t think drugs are fun or cool. if i’ve ever taken. any they were prescribed. any other discussion by myself about drugs that may have made them sound fun or promoting them was wrong and some sort of a lapse in judgment.

they definitely have their medical uses that are valid but not fun and games

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

i don’t think drugs are fun or cool. if i’ve ever taken. any they were prescribed. any other discussion by myself about drugs that may have made them sound fun or promoting them was wrong and some sort of a lapse in judgment.

they definitely have their medical uses that are valid but not fun and games

I remember you warned me from the beginning..
In any case my judgment is lapsing whenever the cravings hit (as well)...

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

I remember you warned me from the beginning..
In any case my judgment is lapsing whenever the cravings hit (as well)...

yes it’s only natural that ppl would seek releif that happens to exist when

1) life itself per se is an institution wherein suffering is the basis,motivation, and fuel for said institution to power and propagate itself. life is suffering and living things are programmed to avoid the suffering in any way they can.

2). The way humans live post agricultural and industrial revolution is a sick perversion of what humans evolved to exist like and happened be a lifestyle that just exponentially multiplies the suffering in the world on the individual and the collective - even more of an “excuse” to ameliorate said suffering.

makes one wonder if all things considered just raw dogging the horror that is life or chemically altering and poisoning your natural biology (that is already completely poisoned from 2), is such a big deal

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

yes it’s only natural that ppl would seek releif that happens to exist when

1) life itself per se is an institution wherein suffering is the basis,motivation, and fuel for said institution to power and propagate itself. life is suffering and living things are programmed to avoid the suffering in any way they can.

You're skipping the pleasure/happiness part, though that can lead to chemical cheating just as well... It's actuality just the other side of the coin

2). The way humans live post agricultural and industrial revolution is a sick perversion of what humans evolved to exist like and happened be a lifestyle that just exponentially multiplies the suffering in the world on the individual and the collective - even more of an “excuse” to ameliorate said suffering.

I agree that the current "modern" civilization is nowhere near a species-appropriate husbandry....

makes one wonder if all things considered just raw dogging the horror that is life or chemically altering and poisoning your natural biology (that is already completely poisoned from 2), is such a big deal

I get your point. There's only this uncomfortable fact that while escaping the momentary suffering, we're creating an even harsher situation to wake up to once it fades... It's always borrowed time. We may need it for various reasons, but since we're addicts, it's always destructive in one way or another. So there's not much reasonable about my use at least. I'm tapering, trying to stop (the disaster), just to cave in again. Over and over. That's my life now. Never thought it would take this long...

 

[Esperighanto]

I was literally just thinking about this haha, don’t have much experience with psychedelics yet, but I have this with K-holes. I find K-hole experiences to be almost like a pause of time, where I look at my life from a third, more objective perspective and with a brain that never shuts the fuck up, I find I desperately need these moments once in a while (I limit myself to once a week max, usually once every two weeks) to kind of reflect on and find patterns in all the chaos of daily life.

Currently have some good quality 2C-B I am planning to try out some time soon in a proper trip setting as I first want to see how I handle a more active/social, visual and ‘out in the real world’ hallucinogen compared to K which obv. is a very ‘inside your head’ and individual experience.

Would be curious to hear anyones experiences with 2C-B trips or any tips on set & setting

I'm probably closer to a thousand than five hundred total 2C-B trips so far, my fiance too. I've used it in a tremendous variety of environments and contexts, up to a variety of different things. Do you live in a walkable city? And what kinds of social vibes are you looking for, as intensely dense as a rave can be in a shoulder-to-shoulder way, or just strolling around a public park? Also what are you looking to gain from this here? There's a big difference between a profound trip walking through a city late at night compared to a "museum dose" taken at a rave imo.

Boy I wanna try Ketamine sometime soon. It's been heavy on my mind along with MDMA, the two drugs I've never taken that have always been on my bucket list

Have you ever used other dissociatives or empathogens?

i want to go on a valium binge but not get dependent.

As long as I've kept it to 5-6 10mg doses throughout a 36 hour period, and done that for no longer than 6 days I've never had aftereffects, but that doesn't mean that others won't.

Never felt anything like bliss from a benzo, it's just relaxation then sleep. I'm very careful to not get regular witg them though

Wow benzos are top tier euphoric for me, but so many people claim they aren't and I have long wondered why that occurs.

no doesn’t help with pain whatsoever.

just is a good distraction from the pain. i might get more engaged in a show or a game than i would be sober.

if anything it usually amplifies the pain higher; but the mental distraction is worth it if the pain isn’t severe

I am not disagreeing at all, but I've got some notes on this I need to dig out but something like ~2/3 people reported this, whereas the other third reported that it did help pain. For me it's an exceptionally effective painkiller, but both my fiance and mother are tortured by even mild pain while under the influence of cannabis, and we've all experimented with flower vs dabs vs oral administrations vs sublingual administrations for these too, many altnoids, occasionally spice. Smoking somewhat reasonable amounts of MDMB-4en-PINACA one day I was bitten by a velvet ant and did not even notice the pain.