I know. A lot of people report crippling wds. I count myself lucky to be able to quick taper and hop off.
I know I've mentioned this several times on different threads but I've been blessed to holiday in phucket the last 3 out of 4 years .I met a wonderful guy in a garden cafe ,he had a fresh kratom tree which after he seen I was in awe picked a dozen leaves and placed them in my hand,he showed me how it should be eaten ie eat around the stem ,his wife made me coffee ,I don't know what strain it was but it was euphoric to say the least ,the taste of fresh leaves is torrible, I visited every day ,always left a large tip
I don't meusure by grams but 2 full teaspoons in morning and maybe double that after work every day .during weekends I'll make tea with 2 table spoons but I keep the sludge and freeze it as it staves off wd when I run out as it still contains some active ingredients. I only simmer it for 10 minutes for that reasonI know. A lot of people report crippling wds. I count myself lucky to be able to quick taper and hop off.
17 yrs of heavy use of kratom? From what I gather the higher the dosages the harder the wds from kratom (and most other substances). Guess it only make sense.
Can I ask what "heavy use" means to you?
ahh t i would be looking forward to that vacation myself. do you find the fresh leaves have a different or more/less pronounced effect(s) than dried leaf? never had fresh leaves
honestly i think that is genius. i mean how many others do ya think have thought of this...? i would bet not very many at all.
oh, yeah?
They have an instant effect ,but more stimulating ,I also buy the litre bottles of kratom juice mixtures which are in every road side cooler,I don't know what else is in them but there sweet and they are more sedating and lasts longer than the fresh leaf.the fresh leaf hits like a bomb instantlyahh t i would be looking forward to that vacation myself. do you find the fresh leaves have a different or more/less pronounced effect(s) than dried leaf? never had fresh leaves
honestly i think that is genius. i mean how many others do ya think have thought of this...? i would bet not very many at all.
oh, yeah?
kinda craving dark chocolate for some reason i dont even care for it much. may have to wait til tomorrow when i go out for other stuff.
of course i wanna sedated but will wait. crucial to the regimen.
ah man i must be craving more kratom as well as im gettin up to get some. lol
thanks for the education.
Have you ever grown something under lights?
I live in Michigan and a number of years back I kept a jalapeno plant growing solely by natural light during the winter (overwintering?) from a south-facing window. I have no idea how that thing survived. A freaking jalapeno plant, in the Northern Midwest of the U.S., during winter. Thing even kept growing actual jalapenos. That was one tough sumbitch.
Yeh would be a feat if you could.its so humid out there with lots of rainfall even during the best weather season it usually rains every other day,out of season it dosnt stop rainingthanks for the education.
i now have to try to see if i can grow my own. wonder if it can be accomplished with lights or if the trees need to be outdoors.
i guess the environment would have to be as close to SE asia (to get best results) and that would take some research to accomplish.
is it worth it i ask myself...?
i feel it is unfeasible to me at this time.
To make you even madder I went there every morning for a coffee and every morning he gave me another hanfull.i had so much in the hotel fridge [ it keeps fresh surprisingly long ] I had to break it into pieces and flush it down the toilet a few days before our flight.i also bought a new ruck sack for the flight home via the middle east .I always paid for it handsomly even though he never asked for money.i feel it is unfeasible to me at this time.
guess ill have to wait for tariffs to drop.
look at you being gifted fresh leaves that probably 99% of kratom users (in US and UK maybe others lets say the "west?" ) would love to have. im envious for sure. may be mad, idk.
ot
a kratom tree lol
sweets but dont wanna get up. sad aint it? damn sedation....
Have you written your letter to santa yet loli feel it is unfeasible to me at this time.
guess ill have to wait for tariffs to drop.
look at you being gifted fresh leaves that probably 99% of kratom users (in US and UK maybe others lets say the "west?" ) would love to have. im envious for sure. may be mad, idk.
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a kratom tree lol
sweets but dont wanna get up. sad aint it? damn sedation....
nooooo.not yet but kratom tree would be at the top of it somewhere
I would have cried.
I was actually more panicked than anything ,although kratom [if your ever in phucket pronounce it ga Thom otherwise they will have no idea what your asking for ] is legal in thailand as was cannibas when I was there the hotel has strict rules about cannibas being consumed on their property so I was slighly trying to dump it in bins around hotel but there's to many cameras so I opted for toilet ,I was also scared incase I blocked it and maintenance had to come in so it was a tiny bit at a time lolI would have cried.
Do you miss the fresh? I guess that's a non starter....
Good morning from ne usa and we look forward to some posts of yer global shenanigans. I personally find it interesting, informative and entertaining.
My best,
