Kratom Health benefits of your illegal drugs

[TinFoilFez]

What health benefits have you enjoyed due to the illegal drugs you take. Officially the illegal drugs I'm taking are helping me where doctors didn't. I see no more doctors on a regular basis - for anything.

I moved away from my marijuana source, so I started smoking CBD flower. Extreme tachycardia went to normal. So you know it's not a fluke - my roommate's BP went from elevated to normal as well.

Since I started taking Kratom (August this year) this small cyst on the inside of my hand disappeared. I noticed it one day about 10 years ago. Bout the size of a small marble (as big around as a dime). It was pretty big. It's completely gone.

Since taking CBD the extreme pain in my feet has gone. It was either fallen arches or planters fasciitis (undiagnosed). The pain was horrific. Totally gone !

Since taking Kratom extract tablets, the desire to drink alcohol has completely gone. My whole family has problems with alcohol and I have to be very careful. I sometimes drink too much in one sitting. Since taking Kratom extracts I don't even want it. This could be coincidence but I doubt it. Seriously I don't even think about alcohol anymore. Which is really crazy if you knew my history.

Hopefully there are more stories. I'd love to hear them!

 

[Syntherize]

What health benefits have you enjoyed due to the illegal drugs you take. Officially the illegal drugs I'm taking are helping me where doctors didn't. I see no more doctors on a regular basis - for anything.

I moved away from my marijuana source, so I started smoking CBD flower. Extreme tachycardia went to normal. So you know it's not a fluke - my roommate's BP went from elevated to normal as well.

Since I started taking Kratom (August this year) this small cyst on the inside of my hand disappeared. I noticed it one day about 10 years ago. Bout the size of a small marble (as big around as a dime). It was pretty big. It's completely gone.

Since taking CBD the extreme pain in my feet has gone. It was either fallen arches or planters fasciitis (undiagnosed). The pain was horrific. Totally gone !

Since taking Kratom extract tablets, the desire to drink alcohol has completely gone. My whole family has problems with alcohol and I have to be very careful. I sometimes drink too much in one sitting. Since taking Kratom extracts I don't even want it. This could be coincidence but I doubt it. Seriously I don't even think about alcohol anymore. Which is really crazy if you knew my history.

Hopefully there are more stories. I'd love to hear them!

Kratom leaf has helped me with my old injury pains due to three herniated disks, a fractured thumb on my right hand, a messed up ankle that got hurt seriously 3x, and an AC joint injury in my right shoulder from overdoing the bench press in the gym for over 15 years. Also, CBD helps me a lot for arthritis and inflammation that is caused by all these old injuries. I don’t even consume THC really anymore even though I used to be a daily pot smoker, so these days I’m just taking it easy. Oh yeah! Nicotine still helps me remain focused and is helping preserve my memory.

 

[awitha_teetha]

Not illegal for me (I'm a medical patient) but I have to agree with the THC sentiments. Because of my mental health issues I have a very hard time sleeping; both going to sleep and staying asleep. Since regularly smoking before bed I have been getting a solid 8 hours of sleep for the last several years. I've never felt this well rested in my life. THC is an all around very incredible medical tool.
I try not to use it too frequently as to not develop a dependency; but heroin. I just function better with it, if I have a big family gathering (and I'm not driving) I will do a few bumps so I can handle the social aspect. I also get to enjoy spending time in big groups instead of getting freaked out by the amount of people and shutting down. Heroin is also really helpful for my chronic pain, on days where my pain is so severe I can't bend my fingers or stand, heroin allows me to at least preform basic tasks.

 

[Syntherize]

Not illegal for me (I'm a medical patient) but I have to agree with the THC sentiments. Because of my mental health issues I have a very hard time sleeping; both going to sleep and staying asleep. Since regularly smoking before bed I have been getting a solid 8 hours of sleep for the last several years. I've never felt this well rested in my life. THC is an all around very incredible medical tool.
I try not to use it too frequently as to not develop a dependency; but heroin. I just function better with it, if I have a big family gathering (and I'm not driving) I will do a few bumps so I can handle the social aspect. I also get to enjoy spending time in big groups instead of getting freaked out by the amount of people and shutting down. Heroin is also really helpful for my chronic pain, on days where my pain is so severe I can't bend my fingers or stand, heroin allows me to at least preform basic tasks.

Same, same, same…I have generalized anxiety too and chronic pain, so I’m prescribed clonazepam, but I don’t like benzos all that much. I love heroin too, but right now I’m just sticking to red vein quality kratom leaf.

 

[awitha_teetha]

Same, same, same…I have generalized anxiety too and chronic pain, so I’m prescribed clonazepam, but I don’t like benzos all that much. I love heroin too, but right now I’m just sticking to red vein quality kratom leaf.

Benzos make me feel flat in a way that just doesn't work well with my brain chemistry. The euphoria from heroin is huge for me because I have severe depression from bipolar disorder. May I ask what red vein quality kratom leaf is compared to the 7-oh stuff? I don't know much about kratom admittedly. I've known some people who have used it to stop taking pills but that's kinda all I know.

 

[Syntherize]

Benzos make me feel flat in a way that just doesn't work well with my brain chemistry. The euphoria from heroin is huge for me because I have severe depression from bipolar disorder. May I ask what red vein quality kratom leaf is compared to the 7-oh stuff? I don't know much about kratom admittedly. I've known some people who have used it to stop taking pills but that's kinda all I know.

Stay away from extracts, 7-OH, MGM-15/MGM-16, etc. Just use pure whole ground Kratom powder like I do, and I used to have a gram per day IV H habit too. I order from Golden Monk and currently I’m using the Hulu Kapuas Red Vein Kratom. If you like opiates then Red vein kratom is the way to go. Depending on your tolerance, just take about a measured tablespoon for the first time (buy some cheap kitchen measuring spoons to keep track of your doses easily) mixed into some citrus juice and try to stir it in well while also knocking it back in one shot if you can bc it doesn’t taste great but you’ll get used to it after a while. Godspeed.

P.S. 7-OH and many of the extracts will just raise your tolerance too fast and make the natural leaf not work as well. Lower your opioid tolerance first and then follow up with kratom.

 

[awitha_teetha]

Stay away from extracts, 7-OH, MGM-15/MGM-16, etc. Just use pure whole ground Kratom powder like I do, and I used to have a gram per day IV H habit too. I order from Golden Monk and currently I’m using the Hulu Kapuas Red Vein Kratom. If you like opiates then Red vein kratom is the way to go. Depending on your tolerance, just take about a measured tablespoon for the first time (buy some cheap kitchen measuring spoons to keep track of your doses easily) mixed into some citrus juice and try to stir it in well while also knocking it back in one shot if you can bc it doesn’t taste great but you’ll get used to it after a while. Godspeed.

P.S. 7-OH and many of the extracts will just raise your tolerance to fast and make the natural leaf not work as well. Lower your opioid tolerance first and then follow up with kratom.

Thanks man, I really appreciate that info! I'm going to look into it and try it out.
Do you notice any withdrawal effects on from it?

 

[Syntherize]

Thanks man, I really appreciate that info! I'm going to look into it and try it out.
Do you notice any withdrawal effects on from it?

Yes, if you take it daily then there is some withdrawal, but if you’ve ever felt heavy withdrawal from harder opiates then this will be a piece of cake. All you gotta do is slowly lower your intake of kratom over time instead of just stopping right away cold turkey. I had to spend four days in jail last year over some bullshit and I was without kratom the whole time. I was taking like 15-20 grams a day too back then, and the only withdrawal that I felt was lack of appetite, feeling slightly tired, not wanting to do anything, a little bit of hot/cold flashes, etc, but at least I was able to just sleep most of it off in my jail cell. It’s messed up that in jail none of the nurses know what kratom even is when I tried telling them, so I didn’t get ANYTHING for my withdrawal not even the clonazepam prescription that I am supposed to have! Honestly, it would be good to have one bump of heroin or pop a Percocet before going into jail so that way when they drug test you you can at least get some methadone or suboxone for your stay, but screw jail because that’s never a fun time. I beat the case though and all the charges were dropped, thankfully.

 

[awitha_teetha]

Yes, if you take it daily then there is some withdrawal, but if you’ve ever felt heavy withdrawal from harder opiates then this will be a piece of cake. All you gotta do is slowly lower your intake of kratom over time instead of just stopping right away cold turkey. I had to spend four days in jail last year over some bullshit and I was without kratom the whole time. I was taking like 15-20 grams a day too back then, and the only withdrawal that I felt was lack of appetite, feeling slightly tired, not wanting to do anything, a little bit of hot/cold flashes, etc, but at least I was able to just sleep most of it of in my jail cell. It’s messed up that in jail none of the nurses know what kratom even is when I tried telling them, so I didn’t get ANYTHING for my withdrawal not even the clonazepam prescription that I am supposed to have! Honestly, it would be good to have one bump of heroin or pop a Percocet before going into jail so that way when they drug test you you can at least get some methadone or suboxone for your stay, but screw jail because that’s never a fun time. I one the case though and all the charges were dropped, thankfully.

Gotcha!

Dude that's fucked, good thing the charges were dropped. I've heard similar stories from folks, jail is so fucked, especially here in the US.

I'm looking at that site now, what is the difference between red, green and white kratom?

 

[Syntherize]

Gotcha!

Dude that's fucked, good thing the charges were dropped. I've heard similar stories from folks, jail is so fucked, especially here in the US.

I'm looking at that site now, what is the difference between red, green and white kratom?

Red is more sedating and has more pain relief. White is more stimulant and Green is more balanced. If you like opioids go for Red strains. Try Maeng Da Red for the first time bc that’s one of the most common and strong strains. Maeng Da means “Pimp Grade” in Thailand where it’s from lol. All their stuff is lab tested and clean without any RC additives which is important nowadays.

 

[awitha_teetha]

Red is more sedating and has more pain relief. White is more stimulant and Green is more balanced. If you like opioids go for Red strains. Try Maeng Da Red for the first time bc that’s one of the most common and strong strains. Maeng Da means “Pimp Grade” in Thailand where it’s from lol. All their stuff is lab tested and clean without any RC additives which is important nowadays.

That's the one I was looking at, it seemed to lean towards the effects I'm looking for. Thank you again for all the info I appreciate it big time.

 

[aspiringchemist]

I get substantial positive cognitive and mental health related effects from moderate methamphetamine use. I’ve been prescribed adderall for a decade for essentially the same purpose and about 9 months ago began using methamphetamine carefully, only nasally or orally, and always ensuring that I slept every night (so no benders anymore). It honestly just feels like a stronger adderall. And as long as I sleep nightly, and don’t use excessive amounts, like 100mg or less daily (which plays into the sleeping nightly thing),, and not smoking or injecting it, it doesn’t seem to be having much, if any, detrimental effects. So I have to use some self control, it’s not balls to the wall meth use like the days of the past, but rather use with intention of obtaining therapeutic effects. I initially did this because my psychiatrist wouldn’t increase my adderall dose above 40mg daily and I strongly felt I needed more as a primary antidepressant after a decade.

I have a kinda rare mutation to the serotonin transporter gene that renders SSRI’s ineffective and subsequent treatment resistant depression. When on methamphetamine I am pro social, optimistic, forward thinking, complete tasks/goals. I know that sounds silly, but it’s true. I feel an actual desire to engage with people and self esteem.

 

[Syntherize]

I get substantial positive cognitive and mental health related effects from moderate methamphetamine use. I’ve been prescribed adderall for a decade for essentially the same purpose and about 9 months ago began using methamphetamine carefully, only nasally or orally, and always ensuring that I slept every night (so no benders anymore). It honestly just feels like a stronger adderall. And as long as I sleep nightly, and don’t use excessive amounts, like 100mg or less daily (which plays into the sleeping nightly thing),, and not smoking or injecting it, it doesn’t seem to be having much, if any, detrimental effects. So I have to use some self control, it’s not balls to the wall meth use like the days of the past, but rather use with intention of obtaining therapeutic effects. I initially did this because my psychiatrist wouldn’t increase my adderall dose above 40mg daily and I strongly felt I needed more as a primary antidepressant after a decade.

I have a kinda rare mutation to the serotonin transporter gene that renders SSRI’s ineffective and subsequent treatment resistant depression. When on methamphetamine I am pro social, optimistic, forward thinking, complete tasks/goals. I know that sounds silly, but it’s true. I feel an actual desire to engage with people and self esteem.

Interesting Thank you for sharing.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

i don’t eat a bullet when my pain is really severe thanks to access to opioids and benzos (but they are legal for me).

i guess not eating a bullet is a health benefit.

being able to work a cognitively difficult job in extreme physical pain.

being able to get sleep in extreme pain so i can perform the job

those are the benefits.

 

[paranoid android]

Im on morphine and its kept me from killing myself cause of pain. Benzos stop my aniety. Zopiclone keeps me from going insane of lack of sleep. Testosterone helps me build muscle and helps mood. Weed helps pain and anxiety. The occasional ritalin helps me stay away

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

Im on morphine and its kept me from killing myself cause of pain. Benzos stop my aniety. Zopiclone keeps me from going insane of lack of sleep. Testosterone helps me build muscle and helps mood. Weed helps pain and anxiety. The occasional ritalin helps me stay away

does testosterone do anything for pain? i know it lowers inflammation.

i have amazing pain reduction and mood boost from corticosteroids and always wondered what testosterone would do. but i understand it’s basically more physically addictive and irreversible than what opioids do to your body ; in terms of reaching equilibrium again after you stop test , and i’ve heard that ppl can never stop it.

my levels are pretty high as they are for my age of mid forties 570 level.

seeing a rheumatologist soon to see if a corticosteroid program might work for this type of pain i have that might by auto immune or chronic re inflammation. it’s not an injury type situation.

but man i took corticosteroids the other week and was sober from everything else and really noticed the mood boost it was a very clean euphoric feeling.

 

[paranoid android]

does testosterone do anything for pain? i know it lowers inflammation.

i have amazing pain reduction and mood boost from corticosteroids and always wondered what testosterone would do. but i understand it’s basically more physically addictive and irreversible than what opioids do to your body ; in terms of reaching equilibrium again after you stop test , and i’ve heard that ppl can never stop it.

my levels are pretty high as they are for my age of mid forties 570 level.

seeing a rheumatologist soon to see if a corticosteroid program might work for this type of pain i have that might by auto immune or chronic re inflammation. it’s not an injury type situation.

but man i took corticosteroids the other week and was sober from everything else and really noticed the mood boost it was a very clean euphoric feeling.

It does help pain but unless you have low test i would say not to fuck with it

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Kratom works great shortterm.
But if you do it daily long enough it will creep up on you with all kinds of side effects.

 

[aspiringchemist]

Kratom works great shortterm.
But if you do it daily long enough it will creep up on you with all kinds of side effects.

I can agree with this. I had a 10 year 100+gpd habit that was atrocious to quit. I had to get on suboxone eventually, it was the only way I could stop. I was using like 15g x5 or 6 a day, plus an extract at night. Like I said, I did this for a decade and with fairly consistent pharmaceutical opioid use as well.
I struggle with chronic pain from a lumbosacral transitional vertebrae and opioids certainly help.

I’m actually staring down fentanyl withdrawal at the moment and am pretty fucking scared. Unfortunately after 3 years on bupe I got hooked on smoking fent. Sources are dry and I got nothing.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

I can agree with this. I had a 10 year 100+gpd habit that was atrocious to quit. I had to get on suboxone eventually, it was the only way I could stop. I was using like 15g x5 or 6 a day, plus an extract at night. Like I said, I did this for a decade and with fairly consistent pharmaceutical opioid use as well.
I struggle with chronic pain from a lumbosacral transitional vertebrae and opioids certainly help.

I’m actually staring down fentanyl withdrawal at the moment and am pretty fucking scared. Unfortunately after 3 years on bupe I got hooked on smoking fent. Sources are dry and I got nothing.

Pain makes you do anything to make it better.

I have some spine issues aswell, luckily ive learned to manage it mostly with training and a overall strict routine.
Although opiates or kratom makes everything alot easier for awhile.

Im sober atm from everything except thc, but used opiates and kratom in the past for periods.

The longest daily habit i had was about a year of kratom at one point.
Mostly kept myself at 10g per day with a few per week of higher doses.

Ive learned quickly to rotate strains and shops and not chase the buzz.
If i could keep my doses somewhat low a few days then i could treat myself to a day with more etc.

Look into professor Stuart Mcgill, he is the world leader in rehabing serious spine injuries.
He has a ton of material to help you manage.