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Benzos long term.

Well this site came in at the right time before i ever really dived in Benzodiazepinen.
And we don t raid medicine cabinet s over here. Maybe we should have.

My brain was primed to see it as very addicting drug s. Booze slipped under my Radar. Learned that the hard way. Benzo s are just as bad afaik. Or worse, as they are not OTC? Taking them need s careful evaluation. And self reflection.
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Well this site came in at the right time before i ever really dived in Benzodiazepinen.
And we don t raid medicine cabinet s over here. Maybe we should have.

My brain was primed to see it as very addicting drug s. Booze slipped under my Radar. Learned that the hard way. Benzo s are just as bad afaik. Or worse, as they are not OTC? Taking them need s careful evaluation. And self reflection.
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I don't if benzos are as physiologically damaging as booze. I don't think they are. That's just my opinion. Possibly more psychologically damaging.
 
Okiv99 said:
What can low dose antipsychotics be taken without the extreme blunting people get when treated for bipolar etc?
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There is no antipsychotic that will not blunt you extremely. They also shrink your brain, cause tarditive dyskinesia and other movement disorders, aswell as dozens of other serious side effects. Just live your truth, autism is NOT worth that.
 
Okiv99 said:
Has anybody just stayed on benzodiazepines long term and not had issues? Or do they basically just stop working eventually. My whole drug issues in the first place started because ive never felt normal/totally comfortable in social situations (I think im probably pretty autistic tbh I have multiple symptoms of it and have been asked my people if I am) and im at the point where im thinking about just using benzos forever so I can live the way I want to instead of being handicapped by my discomfort in social situations.

Has anybody done daily dosing long term ? Ive tried using benzos twice a week and it doesnt work because rebound anxiety means you are worst a day or two after using them, so maybe just using them and accepting being dependant is the better option now.
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It's not sustainable - will create far more issues than it (temporarily) 'solves'

You can't medicate autism away (if you even are that).

Start looking at the million-and-one ways to help yourself that aren't drug-based. There is no magic pill (well, apart from Pink Callies circa 1997 - now they were magic pills!)
 
daturetard said:
There is no antipsychotic that will not blunt you extremely. They also shrink your brain, cause tarditive dyskinesia and other movement disorders, aswell as dozens of other serious side effects. Just live your truth, autism is NOT worth that.
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Maybe ur right and need to learn to just accept myself for the way I am. The thing I liked about benzos was I could be totally outgoing and extroverted, I doubt and kind of councilling/treatment can change my personality to make me like that because if im not on benzos I get mentally exhausted after a couple of hours being around people (even best friends and family members)..
 
Okiv99 said:
Has anybody just stayed on benzodiazepines long term and not had issues? Or do they basically just stop working eventually. My whole drug issues in the first place started because ive never felt normal/totally comfortable in social situations (I think im probably pretty autistic tbh I have multiple symptoms of it and have been asked my people if I am) and im at the point where im thinking about just using benzos forever so I can live the way I want to instead of being handicapped by my discomfort in social situations.

Has anybody done daily dosing long term ? Ive tried using benzos twice a week and it doesnt work because rebound anxiety means you are worst a day or two after using them, so maybe just using them and accepting being dependant is the better option now.
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Well benzos can help temporarily, however, they are not a good first choice, or good idea to begin with. I personally had to use benzos long-term some time ago and it was a good temporary solution, but I now see that there are other options.
Personally I have received most benefit from dissociatives, namely Ketamine, it has wildly helped me with my previous anxiety issues and processing of reality.

I say low dose clozapine + cbd + occasional Dissociative + weed will sort your problems out, however benzos might make them worse.
 
Oreon said:
Well benzos can help temporarily, however, they are not a good first choice, or good idea to begin with. I personally had to use benzos long-term some time ago and it was a good temporary solution, but I now see that there are other options.
Personally I have received most benefit from dissociatives, namely Ketamine, it has wildly helped me with my previous anxiety issues and processing of reality.

I say low dose clozapine + cbd + occasional Dissociative + weed will sort your problems out, however benzos might make them worse.
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By dissociative do you mean one big psychedelic experience rewired your look at things? or you mean like daily micro dosing?
 
Was taking 4 mg clonozopam daily for over a year which has a fairly long half life,I went on holiday for 2 weeks and bang 4 th day in it hit like a freight train ,I ruined the rest of holiday for everyone else ,was alright at night with a few beers but didn't sleep for rest of holiday.i know that sounds impossible but maybe 30 mins a night in total .
 
I take a low dose benzo daily as prescribed daily for decades. It still works for sleep and anxiety. I am trying to take it less and eventually quit because of the stigma (every doctor except the one who prescribes it will assume you are drug seeking pos and not take you seriously). And this stuff sure does not make you any smarter!
 
Do you want to tell us which one?

It's shit how there's a stigma about taking a prescribed med.

Medical cannabis especially.
 
Okiv99 said:
Maybe ur right and need to learn to just accept myself for the way I am. The thing I liked about benzos was I could be totally outgoing and extroverted, I doubt and kind of councilling/treatment can change my personality to make me like that because if im not on benzos I get mentally exhausted after a couple of hours being around people (even best friends and family members)..
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Hey their, just wanted to see if maybe you could send me a private message? Just to talk? After reading your original post and this post right here, I have to say I feel EXACTLY the way you describe as well... I've never met someone that sounds like me so accurately. And it's funny because I also was wondering about long term benzo use. Because I'm tired of living and feeling this way.. ☹️ I just want to feel normal and benzos are the only thing that have done that for me.
 
In terms of meds that help with social anxiety, in my experience propranolol is the most effective. It doesn't sedate or blunt you like antipsychotics or benzo's do and is not addictive. It simply allows you to remains calm and level and represent the best version of your self in stressful situations. I'm in the UK btw and prescribe it for my patients regularly. Its in the British National Formulary (BNF) for this reason also.
 
Delam said:
In terms of meds that help with social anxiety, in my experience propranolol is the most effective. It doesn't sedate or blunt you like antipsychotics or benzo's do and is not addictive. It simply allows you to remains calm and level and represent the best version of your self in stressful situations. I'm in the UK btw and prescribe it for my patients regularly. Its in the British National Formulary (BNF) for this reason also.
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It sucks I had a repeat prescription from myGP for 7 years straight. Got about 120 10mg tablets a month. Now GP says they arent allowed to prescribe it for anxiety anymore. I had an atrial fibrillation episode years ago after abusing rec drugs and got admitted to hospital so I might try and see if GP will prescribe me it for atrial fibrillation.
 
Okiv99 said:
Has anybody just stayed on benzodiazepines long term and not had issues? Or do they basically just stop working eventually. My whole drug issues in the first place started because ive never felt normal/totally comfortable in social situations (I think im probably pretty autistic tbh I have multiple symptoms of it and have been asked my people if I am) and im at the point where im thinking about just using benzos forever so I can live the way I want to instead of being handicapped by my discomfort in social situations.

Has anybody done daily dosing long term ? Ive tried using benzos twice a week and it doesnt work because rebound anxiety means you are worst a day or two after using them, so maybe just using them and accepting being dependant is the better option now.
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oh shit, yes I have and I regret ever taking even one. I have been on Ativan( lorazepam) shorter acting but 10x more powerful by weight than Diazepam (valium) which I take 2-4 times a day usually 3. However I have switched back to Valium. It is weaker and I like it better.

I take it because I was on a opiods 24/7 prescribed legally. Morphine and Oxy.
I was a dead man walking. They gave me a year without a liver transplant. That was told to me almost exactly 10 years ago.

I am scared. Honestly yes. I was supposed to be dead almost 9
 
Jnowhere said:
oh shit, yes I have and I regret ever taking even one. I have been on Ativan( lorazepam) shorter acting but 10x more powerful by weight than Diazepam (valium) which I take 2-4 times a day usually 3. However I have switched back to Valium. It is weaker and I like it better.

I take it because I was on a opiods 24/7 prescribed legally. Morphine and Oxy.
I was a dead man walking. They gave me a year without a liver transplant. That was told to me almost exactly 10 years ago.

I am scared. Honestly yes. I was supposed to be dead almost 9
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What messed your liver up. Taking too many opiate/paracetamol combinations?(IDK what combinations the US has). Is your liver all good now then?

I had the same happen tbh went through a stint abusing cocodamol and got more and more reckless. Was taking 20 cocodamol 30mgcodeine/500mg paracetamol a day an dthen when I ran out i bought the weaker otc 8mg codeine/500mg paracetamol.

Took 60 of them and ended up with an ALt (liver enzyme) number of 3800 while max of healthy range is about 70. Luckily the antidote they gave me in hospital put the numbers down overnight and no symptoms now. Although im sure my liver looks like a block of swiss cheese.
 
years ago and I got on benzos because I get hyper and can't sleep on opiods at the time.

I was on them long term because, they figured I would be dead soon and who cares.

Remember this: If you run out or can't get your benzo's, then death from withdrawal is a real possibility.

Also, it will be tough to find a doctor who will write scripts for you. Doctors don't like prescribing Benzos long term.
 
Okiv99 said:
What messed your liver up. Taking too many opiate/paracetamol combinations?(IDK what combinations the US has). Is your liver all good now then?

I had the same happen tbh went through a stint abusing cocodamol and got more and more reckless. Was taking 20 cocodamol 30mgcodeine/500mg paracetamol a day an dthen when I ran out i bought the weaker otc 8mg codeine/500mg paracetamol.

Took 60 of them and ended up with an ALt (liver enzyme) number of 3800 while max of healthy range is about 70. Luckily the antidote they gave me in hospital put the numbers down overnight and no symptoms now. Although im sure my liver looks like a block of swiss cheese.
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I was a drunk, I begged ALMIGHTY GOD for help. Within 3 days I was allergic. I couldn't get a ice beer down and then the uncontrollable itching. Being told your going to die slowed me down but didn't stop me from still drinking.
 
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