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Starmer - "I wont change drug laws - so tongue my arse. In technicolour"

LoginNotSecure said:
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Oh no, The Uk is under attack by a failed boy band.🤣🤣
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
Then you've not been believing it it since 1951 when we signed the Refugee Convention, meaning we effectively have to let them land and claim asylum. It isn't a recent thing as such.

To get out of that agreement would be hugely conspicuous and would probably lead to reprimands from the international community. So until then, there's no such thing as bogus asylum seeker until they actually apply for asylum.

It's probably not an ideal arrangement, but we signed it off years ago.
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Screw the international community. Your government's obligations are to it's citizens.
 
Jnowhere said:
Screw the international community. Your government's obligations are to it's citizens.
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Oh no, the EU will wag it's finger and write a stern letter to that Prime Minister who thinks that drugs and gangs of effeminate whiteboys are the problem, while betraying and stealing from the taxpayers of the UK. ( yes I like run on sentences)
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
Then you've not been believing it it since 1951 when we signed the Refugee Convention, meaning we effectively have to let them land and claim asylum. It isn't a recent thing as such.
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The Refugee convention is clearly not fit for purpose in the current day, literally anyone can turn up and claim to be a refugee with no evidence, no ID to even show where they're from. It's absurd that we're meant to put up with this, other countries in the EU do not have this problem despite being far nicer than a Somalian ghetto, so it's not like we're forced to do it because of the HR
Ismene2 said:
Farage thinks the minimum wage foy young people is "too high".

Its £7.75 an hour.
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There's the argument that a high minimum wage makes it difficult for the young and unskilled to get jobs. I am recently out of work and the job market in my field is significantly worse than it was 4 years ago , there are far less places willing to take me, with 7 years of experience. How do you think a 16 year old will fare?
new2drugs said:
Yes . Still think it's a bit odd we have boats coming at all . It should be straight forward to prevent most of it
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:Legal immigration is far more damaging, the *fine folks who happen to be immigrants* are far smaller in number and often they just rip off food delivery companies, rather than forming postcode gangs or rape gangs . For context 3 million people were allowed in under Johnsons reign.
 
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GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
The Refugee convention is clearly not fit for purpose in the current day, literally anyone can turn up and claim to be a refugee with no evidence, no ID to even show where they're from. It's absurd that we're meant to put up with this, other countries in the EU do not have this problem despite being far nicer than a Somalian ghetto, so it's not like we're forced to do it because of the HR
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Maybe the agreement should be adjusted, but we're nowhere near the top destination for asylum seekers. Germany takes about three times as many and France twice as many.


In terms of the number of asylum seekers per 1000 population in 2021 the UK is below the average for Europe.If the number of applications is looked at in relation to each country’s GDP, again the UK is well below the average across Europe. Of the 10 countries in the table above only Germany has a higher nominal GDP than the UK.
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I really couldnt give a fuck about migrants getting £49 a week - the country is skint because billionaires have all the countries money and wont give anyone the steam off their shit. Not cos a migrant gets £49 a week.

Musk could end world hunger and save the elephants for just 40 billion.
 
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The £49 is the icing on the cake, the government is paying an absurd amount to rent out hotels and houses for them

I don't think you could end world hunger for $5 per person \

If you hate the rich so much you should want the flow of "refugees" stopped completely, who do you think is renting out the hotels and buying up property to sell to the government for migrant housing? Baz who works at the local chippy?

Perkins : Reborn said:
. Germany takes about three times as many and France twice as many.
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I'm not surprised. But the more sensible countries take in next to none
 
U.N. World Food Programme feeds over 100 million people facing severe hunger in more than 120 countries and territories every year. In 2021, we did this with a budget of $9.6 billion dollars, which was still $5.2 billion dollars short of our total funding requirements. Clearly, ending world hunger will require more money.

Back in July of 2021, U.N. World Food Programme Executive Director David Beasley told us it would take an estimated $40 billion each year to end world hunger by 2030.

“That seems like a lot of money,” Beasley said. “But in the United States alone, in the last one year, the U.S. billionaires’ net worth increase was over $1 trillion.”
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
The £49 is the icing on the cake, the government is paying an absurd amount to rent out hotels and houses for them

I don't think you could end world hunger for $5 per person \

If you hate the rich so much you should want the flow of "refugees" stopped completely, who do you think is renting out the hotels and buying up property to sell to the government for migrant housing? Baz who works at the local chippy?


I'm not surprised. But the more sensible countries take in next to none
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£10 million a day to house these economic migrants. Let’s not called them refugees because, come on. They’re not.
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
The £49 is the icing on the cake, the government is paying an absurd amount to rent out hotels and houses for them

I don't think you could end world hunger for $5 per person \

If you hate the rich so much you should want the flow of "refugees" stopped completely, who do you think is renting out the hotels and buying up property to sell to the government for migrant housing? Baz who works at the local chippy?


I'm not surprised. But the more sensible countries take in next to none
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maybe the government should just take the properties to ensure everyone has housing at minimal cost without lining the pockets of rent seeking billionaires
 
LoginNotSecure said:
£10 million a day to house these economic migrants. Let’s not called them refugees because, come on. They’re not.
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That's if you see it as "Paying for the migrants" rather than "funnelling taxpayers money from the poor to rich multinational hotel owners and rich tory voting landlords". Remember who owns those hotels - big tory donors.
 
Dead right.

And rather than having to suffer quiet periods over the winter and lower prices accordingly, they get guaranteed full capacity at a price they'd never be able to charge outside of a big event happening nearby.

Total scam. No wonder so many hotels are no longer interested in operating normally. Look up Mears Group.
 
I mean, LNS implied they immigrated in order to act as parasites and they had no real concerns about getting their basic needs met where they left from. That is quite a heavy accusation and I wonder if it can be proven?
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
I mean, LNS implied they immigrated in order to act as parasites and they had no real concerns about getting their basic needs met where they left from. That is quite a heavy accusation and I wonder if it can be proven?
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We can't give any accurate figure before an assessment is conducted by the Home Office. Until then, international law demands that we treat them as genuine asylum seekers / refugees.

If you really want to go deep (or you're very bored), this document explains in detail.
 
Ismene2 said:
Looks like years more of drug law bullshit. I always knew this cunt Starmer was backwards on drugs since I heard him saying "Every problem in society comes down to drugs".

Speaking to Anne McElvoy, the host of POLITICO’s new Power Play podcast, opposition leader Starmer said: “Other countries will take different approaches they traditionally have, but our approach is settled and not really a subject of great debate even within the Labour Party.”

Only policy Labour have on drugs is naming and shaming anyone caught buying drugs:

in an interview with the Daily Mirror, Mr Reed was said to have highlighted a scheme naming and shaming people convicted of buying drugs during his stint as a councillor and leader of Lambeth Council.

Asked whether the same could happen under a Labour government, Mr Reed said: “We’d absolutely look at it. It’s important you do it with each locality because they understand what their needs are.

“We wanted to send out the signal that, if you think it’s acceptable to come and buy drugs here, and leave behind you the trail of destruction the drugs trade causes on our streets, we will do everything we can to stop you and we will let your friends, family and employers know what you’ve done”.
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Starmer is WEF and accelerating the WEF plan for the UK. Of course he's anti-drug. Drugs represent a loss of social control and the new digital ID / social credit system is incompatible with that. Plus it lets people use substances outside of the pharmaceutical industry cartel, and we can't have that.
 
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