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Most Euphoric Stimulant?

TheLightBringer said:
Out of all stims I tried the ones that produced the most euphoria were probably 3-MMC and the rush of pyros (short lived), amphetamine and methamphetamine were also amazing.

But most euphoria probably the first 2 doses of 3-MMC, most balanced ratio of serotonin to dopamine for me.

Best for sustained euphoria and productivity was amphetamine/meth/lisdex

Most ”fun” to binge was a-PHP, a strange ”primal” satisfaction after every hit unlike anything else.

Altough if I was still in active addiction and had to pick between all of these I would likely go for 3-MMC or regular amphetamine most of the time. Never had the chance to try 4-FA altough I feel like I might have liked that one more than 3-MMC or amphetamine
Think I tried like 25 - 30 stims, I had a good run 😂
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How did you take it?
 
BadBoy377 said:
Meth and MDMA combined. Most euphoric thing I've ever experienced. Almost indescribable.

Khat was pretty good for a plant. Prepared properly and in right situation. Socialising or just lying on the sofa sipping a beer. Mixed well with booze n weed. But also great because you could sleep when the night was done.
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How did you do it?
 
3/4mmc for parties, and a special mention to 4-emc. pure serotonin, it was so euphoric and flooring you could use it to comfy land of stronger stims and fall asleep without a comedown.

A-php was decent, don’t miss the paranoia and tolerance ruining effect though.

High dose 3-fma vaped, especially hotrailed was amazing, I literally didn’t feel fatigue for 2+ days with minimal side effects. No redoses.

Dexamp script is meh, just get stuck and side-effects.

Ive never tried mdpv but mdpv plus g is especially good if I remember the megathread correctly.
 
garygroundwork said:
I mean did you took that combo together? same time? dosage etc
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Ohh, well no I just listed the top 3 - 4 stimulants in my experience.

However if I had to go for dosage id say 3-MMC my preferred dosage was probably ~400mg at once IN. Highest I ever did in a single dosage was 700mg. Kept doing lines every 90 minutes or so, most I ever did in a session was 3 grams

Amphetamine Sulphate maybe around 300mg if its pure but ive gone up to probably around 600mg in a single dosage, lisdexamphetamine ive gone up to 900mg, meth I cant remember done it so few times

a-PHP generally just dropped ~50mg in a light bulb or pipe and smoked as much as I could til it was gone then rinse and repeat all night long into the next day then into the night getting stuck in the same spot for hours until I went psychotic…
 
Loquacious said:
3/4mmc for parties, and a special mention to 4-emc. pure serotonin, it was so euphoric and flooring you could use it to comfy land of stronger stims and fall asleep without a comedown.
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I missed 4-EMC, truly wish I wouldve had an opportunity to try it

Loquacious said:
A-php was decent, don’t miss the paranoia and tolerance ruining effect though.
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Oh yeah that a-php really fucked your tolerance, I remember binging almost exclusively pyros for a while then I went back to amphetamine and did a whole gram of street speed almost all at once to get to my preferred level. (Admittedly that street speed was probably only ~50% pure but still)
 
4-MAR (U4Euh)
(±)-cis 4-Methylaminorex the daddy Mack, King of the hill and still undisputed champion of the world.

4-MAR.jpg
 
For instant Euphoria IV meth hands down. First time I did it I came without even touching myself

Prolonged Euphoria I'd have to go with Mdma 200-250MG
 
TheLightBringer said:
Never had the chance to try 4-FA altough I feel like I might have liked that one more than 3-MMC or amphetamine
Think I tried like 25 - 30 stims, I had a good run 😂
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My experience that is limited to racemic Amphetamine, Ephedra, Cocaine, Ephedra, Khat/ Cathinone, dextro-Amphetamine, Camfetamine, 3-fluoro-PhenMetrazine.

I hated 4-FA, tease of Serotonin at the start, a mild roll and dl-Amphetamine.
It felt like, then the Serotonin dissipate s to the background and your left with a long lasting stimulant probably on par with crystal Meth. Bought it once.

Same with MDPV and 3-MMC, worthless compound s not worth taking.
but i strongly adverse to the effect of Cocaine and worse MPH.
Hate both. I found 2-FA and 3-FPM very functional stimulant s.
Interchangeable with d-Amphetamine, taken orally in small doses.

For recreation i would rather take 3-FA or 3-FEA for the added Serotinergic effect s.
These felt better and more benign then 3-MMC or 4-FA. Ime !
 
Loquacious said:
.. and a special mention to 4-emc. pure serotonin, it was so euphoric and flooring you could use it to comfy land of stronger stims and fall asleep without a comedown.
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That one was also in the back of my mind, sounded great like 5-Me-Ethylone.
But was alway s 'not in stock' :rolleyes: Frustating when you wanna taste em all !

So it was good, akin to ? 4-MEC was lacking, but i combo d it with 4-FA once.
And was surprised by a mini roll, the duration was short lucky as it got me by surprise.
floored 45 minute s, was not what i expected. Did that once, not something i d repeat.
Glad it lasted short, didn t anticipate it but kept my cool. Didn t have time to roll. \

I expected a mood lift and stimulation. Not Serotinergic retardation. :LOL:
 
emkee_reinvented said:
For recreation i would rather take 3-FA or 3-FEA for the added Serotinergic effect s.
These felt better and more benign then 3-MMC or 4-FA. Ime !
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I tried 3-FEA once from a friend but I think the dosage was too low, it was pleasant but never went anywhere. Altough he told me 3-FEA when combined with amphetamine sulphate blew all other stims out of the water for him as he could adjust the amount of serotonin he wanted. This guy also tried probably 30 different stims like me.

Im surprised you didnt like 3-MMC at all though, I admit it becomes a dirty drug once you binge it all day/night the euphoria dwindles but those first 2 - 3 doses beat amphetamine/methamphetamine for me in terms of euphoria as long as I dosed >400mg
 
emkee_reinvented said:
My experience that is limited to racemic Amphetamine, Ephedra, Cocaine, Ephedra, Khat/ Cathinone, dextro-Amphetamine, Camfetamine, 3-fluoro-PhenMetrazine.

I hated 4-FA, tease of Serotonin at the start, a mild roll and dl-Amphetamine.
It felt like, then the Serotonin dissipate s to the background and your left with a long lasting stimulant probably on par with crystal Meth. Bought it once.

Same with MDPV and 3-MMC, worthless compound s not worth taking.
but i strongly adverse to the effect of Cocaine and worse MPH.
Hate both. I found 2-FA and 3-FPM very functional stimulant s.
Interchangeable with d-Amphetamine, taken orally in small doses.

For recreation i would rather take 3-FA or 3-FEA for the added Serotinergic effect s.
These felt better and more benign then 3-MMC or 4-FA. Ime !
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3-MMC was great for NSA MSM sex. Not so much the euphoria but the disihibition. Also, meth lasts too long, base smoking too short.

MDPV was enjoyable, but I never ordered more.

A-PVP okay, but don't need to do it again.

NEP was fun, but problematic and so was MDPHP Freebase. The great Rush with NEP soon ended.

A-PiHP, only the redosing cravings were great, the rest not so much.

Not sure what other stims I took or even what their names were. 3-FA? Is 3?/4?-FMA a stim? 4-MAR-something (derivatives not the original, nigh worthless).
 
1. N-Ethyl-Hexedrone IV. Rush and euphoria really strong . I would fall asleep in an ocean of euphoria . Benzos needed.

2. MDMA IV . Less strong than NEH but also more enjoyable as less side effects

3. Cocaine IV of course . Rush is unique, euphoric but also expensive and sometimes bad quality.

I got a really good memory with 3-FPM smoked and snorted, euphoric and talkative. But never had another good batch.

Some good euro speed "sulphate" snorted can be damn euphoric too
 
TheLightBringer said:
Im surprised you didnt like 3-MMC at all though, I admit it becomes a dirty drug once you binge it all day/night the euphoria dwindles but those first 2 - 3 doses beat amphetamine/methamphetamine for me in terms of euphoria as long as I dosed >400mg
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With a prescription for dextro-Amphetamine you get a bit picky.
But 3-MMC was ime neither functional nor recreational, hard to find good use for a substance in that case but im gifted with my prescript-ed ADHD med.
I despised MPH, hate it more the Cocaine and Ephedra.

3-FEA, did have a sort of potential. It was a mildly intoxicating re-creative feel.
Didn t have to much of a hangover/ comedown. And was also a little dirty.
Like 3-MMC but in a good way. It s resemblance to Fenfluramine.

and possible hart-valve effect s made me cautious of it. only bought it a few times. ]\
The serotinergic effect s could contain a neuro-toxic or cardio-toxic tail.
 
emkee_reinvented said:
With a prescription for dextro-Amphetamine you get a bit picky.
But 3-MMC was ime neither functional nor recreational, hard to find good use for a substance in that case but im gifted with my prescript-ed ADHD med.
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Its curious how varied peoples experience and enjoyment of different substances can be. I had a script for d-amph too but always preferred both vyvanse and 3-MMC to it. D-amph was just so short lasting and the pills had so much filler it would clog my nose and hinder the absorption due to having to crush up eight 20mg pills rather than snorting pure amph sulphate

Altough I have to agree D-Amph is all around a much safer and more versatile compound in basically every way
 
TheLightBringer said:
Its curious how varied peoples experience and enjoyment of different substances can be. I had a script for d-amph too but always preferred both vyvanse and 3-MMC to it. D-amph was just so short lasting and the pills had so much filler it would clog my nose and hinder the absorption due to having to crush up eight 20mg pills rather than snorting pure amph sulphate

Altough I have to agree D-Amph is all around a much safer and more versatile compound in basically every way
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dextro-Amp snorted was not anywhere close to racemic. Surprise, all the work for NADA. Did a extraction once.

It didn t work out as expected, i experienced no benefit what-so-ever.
Weird as it is essentialy Speed but apperetly the l-isomere does effect the up.
D- i consider functional, racemic is tricky as it s dose dependend ime.
Funtional <-> Recreational, and snortable => RECREATIONAL or i have a fetish.

So i devide em, But I am definetly a Cathinone/ Amphetamine/ Phenmetrazine person. Camfetamine was short available but felt functional too.

Aminorex, had a analogue shortly. But that one seemed inactive, or maybe i was sold the wrong isomer. Of 4-BMAR, the Bromide version ? No effect s, i was hesitant to push it.
 
I think I can safely say I've likely sampled more stimulants than most, but I prefer compounds that don't last too long and do not produce physical side-effects.

With that in mind, phenmetrazine was surprisingly good and I can understand why it caused a drug crisis in Sweden. But fencamfamine shares those same benefits.

The only one that I haven't tried (although likely I haven't tasted EVERY cathinone) is nomifensine. Before Tocris Neuramin and Cookson Chemicals merged in 1994, neither were too fussy about who they would supply and while I threw in to get the phenmetrazine and fencamfamine, I wasn't convinced nomifensine was likely to be fun. Turns out it is, but you need a lot.

CC Nomifensine, if nothing else, JNJ-7925476 and McN5652 (and indeed dichlorfensine) show us is that the pendent aromatic appears to display many similarities with the simple ring-substituted amphetamines. Hardly kitchen chemistry but sub-nM affinity might suggest that stimulants orders of magnitude more potent might be a viable proposition. Of course, that potency would mean that some reliable dose formulation would be required.

BTW I found plain aminorex superior to 4MAR and p-Me aminorex to be better than either - but YMMV. The p-Me has a significantly shorter duration of action and more SERT activity than AR of 4MAR. More towards an entactogen I suppose. AR and 4MAR have a bit of an entectogen feel.
 
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