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after a good minidose of LSD 40ug established itself
a modest minidose of 2 sprays (30mg) MDMA produced an elegant state yesterday evening
later a good inhallation of DMT revealed the icing on the "candy flip" session, phasing in and out of total psychedelia and regular Netflix consumption while healing my sore throat in bed
 
pupnik said:
after a good minidose of LSD 40ug established itself
a modest minidose of 2 sprays (30mg) MDMA produced an elegant state yesterday evening
later a good inhallation of DMT revealed the icing on the "candy flip" session, phasing in and out of total psychedelia and regular Netflix consumption while healing my sore throat in bed
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I'm glad to see somebody else benefiting from a 30mg dose of MDMA, even at my bodyweight (225 lbs/~102 kg) I still clearly notice the impacts from 30mg of MDMA, and find it significantly more useful than the megadoses I've done which often exceeded 250-300mg. I once did 30mg doses every 6 weeks for 3-4 months, and found that meditating while on it, especially in the presence of a serotonergic psychedelic such as psilocybin containing fungi or LSD, was one of the most impactful ways I could possibly candyflip. For more intense experiences though, I usually leaned more on the 75-150mg range of MDMA, until I got into MDA and found that I preferred it's mescaline-ish character much more than MDMA.
 
One day off due to nostril damage has me back in condition and ready to try again,
after stationary bike and tai chi and zazen I cautiously used 1 spray in each nostril == total 30mg - nice hum to it
then I went for long walk shopping groc - and 3 hrs later top up with right side only 15mg just the ticket.

I don't want to push it because it hurts the nose, but sunday I did one spray in my mouth and that worked just the same.

prob if they put MDA in a nose spray I would snap it up, but I think this thing is happening because of PTSD treatment research. the vendor is also providing ketamine nose spray and cocaine nose spray, but I am not really interested in those.
iom said:
The plus side I imagine for this kind of thing is a lot of flexibility in dosing. It if takes multiple sprays, then one will have to redose several times with waiting periods, and this could tilt the qualitative effects more toward that of oral doses while making it much easier to titrate a "sweet spot" dose and using less material overall.

I could write their ads, but I have no idea if any of this is actually true.
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yes you can write their ads, 15mg/per metered spritz
 
pupnik said:
prob if they put MDA in a nose spray I would snap it up, but I think this thing is happening because of PTSD treatment research. the vendor is also providing ketamine nose spray and cocaine nose spray, but I am not really interested in those.
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Is there a reason you're leaning on nasal spray instead of just doing a bump?
pupnik said:
I don't want to push it because it hurts the nose, but sunday I did one spray in my mouth and that worked just the same.
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Also curious, at what frequency are you administering these mild doses of MDMA? I found no diminishing returns taking 30mg every 6 weeks, but wasn't very driven to use it with any higher frequency since the afterglow carried me for roughly the 6 weeks after.
 
Esperighanto said:
Is there a reason you're leaning on nasal spray instead of just doing a bump?

Also curious, at what frequency are you administering these mild doses of MDMA? I found no diminishing returns taking 30mg every 6 weeks, but wasn't very driven to use it with any higher frequency since the afterglow carried me for roughly the 6 weeks after.
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yes, the medicinal spray bottle is easy to carry anywhere and the metered doses are handy in any situation, rather than fussing with a scale, packages, and equipment.

today is off for me, but I think I will try again tomorrow and maybe every other day for a while. 60mg spread out. It is a bit of a memorial of amphetamine days gone by mixed with the immediacy of sensory presence in the moment and a shadow of pixie dust in the mix. each bump being a real perceptible lift.
 
Littana said:
also very painfull, sounds really bad idea
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It depends on the solubility of the addition salt. The hydrochloride salt is usually chosen for any compound intented to be consumed orally, but in the UK at least, amphetamine sulfate is what usually turns up on the street.

I've struggled with addition salts before and discovered that competing specifications can make it tricky.

But we don't know for sure that it is MDMA as several compounds are so close, they ended up on the street being sold as MDMA.
 
2 days without any spritzes - (small amounts used on weekend), maybe later this morning.
although I have to say 25 mics of lsd produces a very similar effect to 90mg mdma
though it takes 2 hrs to reach the plateau that mdma achieves in 15 mins
 
pupnik said:
2 days without any spritzes - (small amounts used on weekend), maybe later this morning.
although I have to say 25 mics of lsd produces a very similar effect to 90mg mdma
though it takes 2 hrs to reach the plateau that mdma achieves in 15 mins
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Man the frequency with which you've been administering MDMA is fascinating, I wouldn't advise future readers of this thread copy it necessarily, but for this specific run you've been on so far, how would you review the dosing regimen you've been on as far as results?
 
I know 3 month rule being just rule of thumb but, trying to stay as objective as possible, it seems to be exceptionally well educated and adjusted rule of thumb for what it is. I am saying this only as private personality. Most people can push further but I doubt it is worth the risk to maintain habit like that. I do, sometimes, and then again, maintain longer breaks when obviously needed.
 
Esperighanto said:
Man the frequency with which you've been administering MDMA is fascinating, I wouldn't advise future readers of this thread copy it necessarily, but for this specific run you've been on so far, how would you review the dosing regimen you've been on as far as results?
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Agreed, this frequent low dosing, and light re-dosing on dosing days. is not for everyone.

My 44 yr old daughter told me that she recently enjoyed a light dose which she called 90mg but did not like how she felt on 30mg, and I think that this is normal - people generally do not like the indeterminate speediness of lower dose (45mg and less) MDMA - it is too close to generalized anxiety. I admit the first hour of it feels nice but after that not so great (with light doses) but redosing after an hour for me is not bad at all.

my preference is minidoses of LSD to lower doses of MDMA, while mixed together is excellent,
but if I suddenly need an energy lift, I could see two spritzes of MDMA being the cat's ass of options for 75 cents.

edit: also for me, two spritzes of MDMA is good for focusing on one thing calmly. (like zazen)
 
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I did a boo boo today
did 4 sprays in each nostril without taking the lid off and wondered why my hands got all wet - I liked them up and took two sprays with the lid off for a total of 90mg or less due to stupidity on top of 25ug lsd but it has been a good ride.
 
It turned out great, with redosing 2 sprays intranasal twice later on, now break for 4 or 5 days.
 
pupnik said:
It turned out great, with redosing 2 sprays intranasal twice later on, now break for 4 or 5 days.
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The frequency of MDMA usage without meaningful tolerance developing is fascinating. I got a bit spooked of frequent MDMA administration because in college, people we would refer to as "booth babes" or "rave hoes" (aka the women who would sexually harass us DJs who we routinely had to have removed from venues) would buy their annual ounce of molly and it was just for them. That's just over 2 grams of MDMA a month, and they were all obviously super neurologically offset by their MDMA usage, but also what kind of person decides to do that in the first place, you know? I have a thousand funny stories I could tell about these people, but overall their lack of capacity to understand that men have a right to consent led me to being exceptionally aggressive and occasionally violent with them over their molly burnout bullshit.
 
I've been finding signs of dementia in my frequency of molly.
It could be other things. And mainly invega.
it's the next morning.
I write it off as being senile.
 
Esperighanto said:
The frequency of MDMA usage without meaningful tolerance developing is fascinating. I got a bit spooked of frequent MDMA administration because in college, people we would refer to as "booth babes" or "rave hoes" (aka the women who would sexually harass us DJs who we routinely had to have removed from venues) would buy their annual ounce of molly and it was just for them. That's just over 2 grams of MDMA a month, and they were all obviously super neurologically offset by their MDMA usage, but also what kind of person decides to do that in the first place, you know? I have a thousand funny stories I could tell about these people, but overall their lack of capacity to understand that men have a right to consent led me to being exceptionally aggressive and occasionally violent with them over their molly burnout bullshit.
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That's bizarre. While excessive MDMA use might accentuate some of that kind of behavior, I seriously doubt it is a root cause. Presumably those kind of people are rather power obsessed. Some may be abuse victims trying to process the trauma by turning the tables. There are also those who believe that men are more powerful than women "by definition", and therefore it's completely harmless for women to basically ignore any kind of boundaries that men may have under the assumption that it's fundamentally impossible for a woman to victimize a man, etc. Sadly these days a great many people are very confused about many things.

Since a very long time ago, I think harm reduction advise has suggested limiting the frequency of MDMA experiences to something like once per month or even once every few months. I've read and heard of many anecdotes that people using weekly or more frequently tended to develop significant health problems including mood dysregulation and cognitive problems. One term people used a lot was "E-tarded". Later on, a lot of veteran MDMA users who were reasonably moderate in their use nevertheless reported a "loss of magic" or perma-tolerance that set in at some point, with the suggestion that it varies a lot by user and can happen after only a few lifetime uses for some. Hence, waiting at least a few months between doses seems to be good idea for most people.

For me it became a moot point once I discovered that I liked the effects of various psychedelic phenethylamines (2C-B, 2C-I, low dose mescaline, etc.) much more overall when I was looking for MDMA-like effects, and these seem to be far more forgiving than MDMA if used frequently.
 
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