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Kratom Would like to try Kratom to get off of 200mg Morphine/90mg Oxycodone Habit. Any good ideas?

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WannatryKra

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I currently take 200mg Morphine with 90mg Oxycodone (oral) for Pain daily. I would like to try Kratom to ease the WD's. I usually will start withdrawing around 20 hours of non use. If it will just ease up the jerks and insomnia I would be happy. Thanks for your reply !!
 
335 MME is a significant daily dosage. Something around 40g-50g of Kratom powder would be needed daily.

The Kratom capsules would be the easiest way to do this and divide the daily doses up evenly.
 
WannatryKra said:
I currently take 200mg Morphine with 90mg Oxycodone (oral) for Pain daily. I would like to try Kratom to ease the WD's. I usually will start withdrawing around 20 hours of non use. If it will just ease up the jerks and insomnia I would be happy. Thanks for your reply !!
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Just my uneducated opinion so feel free to disregard..

But I’d say it’d be easier to taper with what your prescribed due to the certainty of knowing what your playing with.. if you plan on hopping off eventually

Disregard the rest if that’s not the case! Kratom may patch some holes but if your not careful you may end up using it on top of the oxy and Morphine.

(Tapering mumbo Jumbo)
It would take a lot of self experimenting to figure out any kind of equivalency to the doses of Oxycodone and Morphine, unless either yourself or someone can weigh in and find any concrete info on equivalency. (Edit just saw Them witches provided a estimate)

Then you attempt a full switch, likely requiring very large amounts of Kratom multiple times a day, and then slowly tapering. I could be silly but I’d worry about getting different batches that are less/more potent etc.

Or you can patch the holes in with Kratom and reduce your use of the Morphine and Oxy and also the Kratom but you have to be extremely vigilant and stringent to ensure your not replacing or adding dependence.
 
KurtAurelius said:
Them witches provided a estimate
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I came up with that estimate from personal experience switching from Oxycodone and Methadone directly. I was taking 12 Kratom capsules every 4-6hrs. It knocked a lot of the sting away from the Oxycodone and Methadone withdrawals, yet there was still some withdrawal symptoms breaking through. I did add some comfort meds into the mix which makes my "original estimate" to the OP slightly off. Who knows because everyone is different and some have been on opioids longer than others.

Either "red" or "white" Kratom strains seem to be the strongest available on the commercial market sold in smoke shops or other vendor sites.
 
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I've been at this game awhile. Did my time on subs and actually used roxis and morphine to painlessly jump from said sub regime. I'm currently using about once or twice per week. But point being I think my opinions and experiences will help you.

I tend to agree with Kurt. While it's feasible to jump straight to kratom on your current dose. I would try to lower your intake by slowly tapering off using actual pharma meds, it's beyond easier when you are dealing with the actual known quantity of a substance. I have experience tapering with legit roxi 30s and morphine 40s. I'm not sure what you have access to. Basically when I started my taper I was jumping from about 2mg of suboxone I found that 2.5-3 roxis throughout the day, ie 1 morning 1 afternoon 1 night, was what made me comfortable and able do put in a full day's work. I then started taking out 1/2 a pill every other day or so as I was comfortable. Till finally I make the switch to the morphine. And then on my last night I sniffed the last half of the morphine pill and literally walked away without any acute withdrawal symptoms.

Now. I should say this method is not fool proof and takes a tremendous amount of will power and effort. I would not have been able to pull it off without the help of a dear friend being my pill dispenser.

Moral of the story is you can do this my man. It's totally possible, you may feel off for a bit but trust me it's better than dependency. As to how you want to approach getting off that is only a decision you can make. I can help make recommendations either way. But I am inclined to say get your daily dose as low as you can with your actual pharma supply before jumping to kratom.

Feel free to dm me
 
I have reduced my opioid usage to about half. I have been alternating between Red Bali and Green. Taking a lot (36 Capsules a day) to keep the wd's at bay. I am keeping a log and will post it soon.
 
Nice going, Wannatry. Cutting your use in half is great progress.

I've personally never found kratom very useful for opiate/opioid WDs, but it's always interesting to hear about people's experiences so please do post your log.

I would not have been able to pull it off without the help of a dear friend being my pill dispenser.
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The power to choose how often and how much to use during opiate WDs being in someone else's hands can be the difference between success and failure. Fortunate are those who have someone who can guide them through the journey.
 
I always ended up with taking kratom on top of what i wanted to taper down or substitute, when i had intention to use it as a substitution.
Lets be real, krstom can very addictive, reinforcing and u really never know how much active alkaloids or active additives u Ingest in the same dose as the last dose from different patch, potency can be very different event reinforcing effects range from powerful stimulation to powerful sedation ( i did it with alprazolam and smoked too strong weed, was couch-locked and unable to event pretend i am not under influence of something like heroin for 24 hours...Try to taper, u can stay on lower doses or do it completely, if u have covered your supply of your morphine and oxy, taper it down while using supplements mentioned by others. Kratom ( I ) wouldn't consider as a supplement, just another opioid, substitution.
 
Sorry so long without any input. Back in September, I was put in a Medical Coma in ICU for over two weeks from severe pneumonia in both lungs. While I was out-of-it, they honored my withdrawals by giving me more opioids than I am prescribed normally even added Propofol. My wife said that the Doctor stated he had to give me enough that would knock out a horse because even in restraints I would throw my arms and legs violently and yell stuff out loud. After 2 1/2 weeks they tried to wake me and I was a different person. It's like I had another human in me that was super nice and apologetic to everyone - LOL. I remember nothing but the weird visions I had while under. I finally woke up when they put me on a gurney and went into an elevator. They released me to a Rehab center to learn to walk again. I am about normal but still having some weird thoughts. That's where I am at right now, writing this message. I should be home in a week or so, and I will start my dosage reduction again. For now, I am back on my regular regimen of M and O. Very easy to get things in here as it is strictly a medical rehab not Drug Rehab. Thanks for all the help you all gave me, as it was working fine and I was down to under half my normal dosage.

Keep Praying - I'll Be Back !!

ps. Pneumonia is Gone. The reason I think I was so sick is while I was/am on a large dose of Pain Meds, I didn't feel the pain from the infection. I did feel a little sick but not bad at all. That is where the danger comes in.
 
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