Kratom First time using kratom as an opioid user (?)

[speederman66]

Hey all,
I've been a lurker for a couple years now and figured I might as well post to ask a question I have. I've been a pretty steady opioid user for a few years but it's gotten more and more risky in my area with fentanyl. A friend of mine has some powdered kratom he offered to let me try but I've never used it before. He said it can make you pretty nauseous and that's really the part I'm most worried about. What should I know about dosing and how to avoid the nausea? Is there anything else I should know? Thanks a ton

 

[theslackernews]

Coming off fent will probably work up to lots of powder if you can't get extracts. Maybe start with a small (0.25-0.50g) portion brewed tea or mixed in with a drink with a strong flavor of its own and see how things go and increase gradually as needed and you can tolerate. Be ready to use a laxative but that is probably no surprise. Having some omeprazole or other anti nausea on hand could be good. There are edible wraps like for wontons but it's a little harder to take that way than drinking for me. Also grapefruit and other meds may potentiate. Never done strong opioids so sure there's more info others will add. Good luck and good to see another lurker come out and play!

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Hey all,
I've been a lurker for a couple years now and figured I might as well post to ask a question I have. I've been a pretty steady opioid user for a few years but it's gotten more and more risky in my area with fentanyl. A friend of mine has some powdered kratom he offered to let me try but I've never used it before. He said it can make you pretty nauseous and that's really the part I'm most worried about. What should I know about dosing and how to avoid the nausea? Is there anything else I should know? Thanks a ton

Nausea, first time was after a cruel tooth treatment.
Took half the dose recommend, guess 2.5 gram pieces of dry leaves.
Powder didn t exist here yet. It helped tremendous for the after pain.
In Nl they don t do pain med shit like more liberal country s.

But i got dizzy, nauseated. So paced which made it worse.
So now I know it was a kinda bigger dose as needed.
But recreational i would take 1.2/ 1.5 gram no more 1-st time,
the package advised 5 gram as a normal dose .

Laying down on my tummy, and breathing from the stomach.
Very relaxed, nausea catalyses stress.
Take a very low dose first time, 1/ 1.5 gram, Not a extract,
but regular un-enhanced powder. Can always take more !

Anti-emetics, if you really scared. I only got nausea once.
That was related to the dose and being Opiod naive att.

On Mirtazepine a super anti-emetic [aka anti-depressant]
as it has no delerium effects, i never got nausea.
Cetirizine might help to i never tried.

Nausea did occur with Tramadol and 0-DSMT too, so it is a Opioid feature.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Be ready to use a laxative but that is probably no surprise.

It is to me since that Kratom addiction 10 years ago,
since starting my bowel movements that ranged from constipation pain.
To or sticky poo. After Kratom became a clockwork Brown.
No toilet paper needed after the nice Cigar s i created.

That came everyday, in the morning on the clock.
Only eating red meat or white grain constipate me.
Opioid s normalise it ? Ok i am the exception to the rule.
But i think the constipation is more diet then the slowing of by the Opioid.

And then the expert s come with the laxatives Miralax, senna.
Fuck that just eat normal, no red meat no white bread, healthy.
Before reaching for a bullshit med.

 

[theslackernews]

It is to me since that Kratom addiction 10 years ago,
since starting my bowel movements that ranged from constipation pain.
To or sticky poo. After Kratom became a clockwork Brown.
No toilet paper needed after the nice Cigar s i created.

That came everyday, in the morning on the clock.
Only eating red meat or white grain constipate me.
Opioid s normalise it ? Ok i am the exception to the rule.
But i think the constipation is more diet then the slowing of by the Opioid.

And then the expert s come with the laxatives Miralax, senna.
Fuck that just eat normal, no red meat no white bread, healthy.
Before reaching for a bullshit med.

I do eat terribly but no clockwork for a long time. A little jealous of your success but good advice!

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I do eat terribly but no clockwork for a long time. A little jealous of your success but good advice!

Don t have any explanation why, its not like Kratom reset s your intestines.
But it did, for me, and i am gracious. Used to have pain s from constipation.
That rendered me useless till they passed, but that is the past.

And been a long time since i used Kratom. Still works alright down there.
My diet was good though, mostly vegetarian, fruit lots of veggies.