Opioids What is all this in the news of new opioid 40 times more powerful than fentanyl?

[ignignokt]

What does one use to cut pure fent?

 

[Them Witches]

I find them all a little less euphoric than ultra pure heroin

This will always be the case when comparing Heroin#4 to any other opiate, opioid, and semi-synthetic opioid. This includes fentanyl, Nitazine, Methadone, subs or any synthetic. This goes for any opiate/opioid that uses Thebaine as it's starting block which covers every big pharma pain killer from Oxycodone, hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Oxymorphone, subs, etc.

Heroin#4 will always be king of the "ultra rapid-release opiate/opioid semi-synthetic", "euphoria", "sedation", and "CNS depressant." It is heavily missed right now and any smuggler should take advantage of the poor street quality opioid vacuum & rake in the big bucks. Time is money...

Not to mention Heroin#4 can be kicked in 3 days flat compared to everything else available currently.

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

This will always be the case when comparing Heroin#4 to any other opiate, opioid, and semi-synthetic opioid. This includes fentanyl, Nitazine, Methadone, subs or any synthetic. This goes for any opiate/opioid that uses Thebaine as it's starting block which covers every big pharma pain killer from Oxycodone, hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Oxymorphone, subs, etc.

Heroin#4 will always be king of the "ultra rapid-release opiate/opioid semi-synthetic", "euphoria", "sedation", and "CNS depressant." It is heavily missed right now and any smuggler should take advantage of the poor street quality opioid vacuum & rake in the big bucks. Time is money...

Not to mention Heroin#4 can be kicked in 3 days flat compared to everything else available currently.

It’s BARELY more euphoric than the ones I currently use. Isotonitazepyne blew 90%+ pure heroin out of the water.

While butyr-fentanyl absolutely demolishes EVERYTHING else in terms of euphoria.

Even simple oxymorphone is more euphoric than heroin.

Also, as someone with nearly a lifelong dependence to opioids, a proper heroin dependency can NOT be overcome in just three days. Not a chance.

 

[Them Witches]

It’s BARELY more euphoric than the ones I currently use. Isotonitazepyne blew 90%+ pure heroin out of the water.

While butyr-fentanyl absolutely demolishes EVERYTHING else in terms of euphoria.

Even simple oxymorphone is more euphoric than heroin.

Also, as someone with nearly a lifelong dependence to opioids, a proper heroin dependency can NOT be overcome in just three days. Not a chance.

A view-point based on a life long dependence on opioids has nothing to do with detox period for a "proper" heroin dependency only being 3 days long. Shit maybe 4 days at most if someone has a dealer's habit.

I should know b/c 7.5mg of hydrocodone has me in a nod... Sometimes Advil makes me nod so I would consider myself at least opioid tolerant.

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

A view-point based on a life long dependence on opioids has nothing to do with detox period for a "proper" heroin dependency only being 3 days long. Shit maybe 4 days at most if someone has a dealer's habit.

I should know b/c 7.5mg of hydrocodone has me in a nod... Sometimes Advil makes me nod so I would consider myself at least opioid tolerant.

If 7.5mg of hydrocodone has you in a nod, you’re literally the LAST person to speak with authority on heroin habits, and the associated withdrawal timeline

Seriously, ask any actual heroin user and they’ll tell you the same.

 

[Them Witches]

If 7.5mg of hydrocodone has you in a nod, you’re literally the LAST person to speak with authority on heroin habits, and the associated withdrawal timeline

Seriously, ask any actual heroin user and they’ll tell you the same.

sarcasm much..?

Real talk here 40 years dependent on Rx opiates/opioids. Without at least 400mme daily SWIM would be in wthdrawal.
Methadone clinic 4 years from 7 years of NYC #4 right off the stamp. It was sold with Mallinckrodt's Morphine sulfate USP(Special) compound powder to add with cutting agents. SWIM says good boy sells itself.

guess heroin#4 withdrawals last longer for addicts in the "honeymoon phase." Seasoned addicts push through in 3 days. Day three with loperamide, clonidine, weed, food, and water things were bearable. Sure things were amiss some but good to go working 10hr tradework shifts. "honeymoon'ers make a big deal out of it, when it is easier than methadone's 2-3 month at the whipping post, oxycodone 10 day ass beating, subs 2-3 month at the whipping post, morphine's 3-5 day ordeal,

Once SWIM experienced being broke 50 times, it became the norm to pull 1 day, 1-2 day, 1-3 day stints. SWIM was good after day 3 maybe 4 days with USP added to the mix.

Everyone is different. And there are only real heroin addicts in Africa, the Middle East, China, South America, Russia, and Europe. Right now China is repeating the "1839 First Opium War" effects on them. Repeating it to the USA with Fentanyl with the Mexican Cartel's help, to silently & slowly weaken the able age/body fighting man & women, destroy the family bond's power of resistance, and it is called silent weapons for quite wars. The war draft line is looking pretty slim right now. It is easier to take over a 2nd amendment country when people have pawned their guns, are strung out and can't fight or protect themselves. Even easier when China owns 500,000 farming acres and are buying shit left & right in the USA. The USA is basically "sleeping through the war."

China and Russia will do a 40/40 split and give Canada & Mexico a 10/10 split. The USA had a $35+ trillion National debt. BRICS (30 countries that denounced the US dollar). War worries regarding not being able to fill Roxicodone, Methadone, Clonidine, Ativan, Vistaril PAM, Lunesta, Busbar, Zoloft, Toprol, Lisinopril, Dilitazem, and Lipitor concerns me greatly.

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

sarcasm much..?

Real talk here 40 years dependent on Rx opiates/opioids. Without at least 400mme daily SWIM would be in wthdrawal.
Methadone clinic 4 years from 7 years of NYC #4 right off the stamp. It was sold with Mallinckrodt's Morphine sulfate USP(Special) compound powder to add with cutting agents. SWIM says good boy sells itself.

guess heroin#4 withdrawals last longer for addicts in the "honeymoon phase." Seasoned addicts push through in 3 days. Day three with loperamide, clonidine, weed, food, and water things were bearable. Sure things were amiss some but good to go working 10hr tradework shifts. "honeymoon'ers make a big deal out of it, when it is easier than methadone's 2-3 month at the whipping post, oxycodone 10 day ass beating, subs 2-3 month at the whipping post, morphine's 3-5 day ordeal,

Once SWIM experienced being broke 50 times, it became the norm to pull 1 day, 1-2 day, 1-3 day stints. SWIM was good after day 3 maybe 4 days with USP added to the mix.

Everyone is different. And there are only real heroin addicts in Africa, the Middle East, China, South America, Russia, and Europe. Right now China is repeating the "1839 First Opium War" effects on them. Repeating it to the USA with Fentanyl with the Mexican Cartel's help, to silently & slowly weaken the able age/body fighting man & women, destroy the family bond's power of resistance, and it is called silent weapons for quite wars. The war draft line is looking pretty slim right now. It is easier to take over a 2nd amendment country when people have pawned their guns, are strung out and can't fight or protect themselves. Even easier when China owns 500,000 farming acres and are buying shit left & right in the USA. The USA is basically "sleeping through the war."

China and Russia will do a 40/40 split and give Canada & Mexico a 10/10 split. The USA had a $35+ trillion National debt. BRICS (30 countries that denounced the US dollar). War worries regarding not being able to fill Roxicodone, Methadone, Clonidine, Ativan, Vistaril PAM, Lunesta, Busbar, Zoloft, Toprol, Lisinopril, Dilitazem, and Lipitor concerns me greatly.

Nice ramble, but again, I’ve had experience with lab verified 90%+ purity heroin, all over the course of a decade. 3 days is a joke when it comes to withdrawal completion when it comes to a serious habit.

Stamps are literally known for being garbage purity, by the way. Even more so in the times you were attempting to “brag” about.

 

[Them Witches]

Nice ramble, but again, I’ve had experience with lab verified 90%+ purity heroin, all over the course of a decade. 3 days is a joke when it comes to withdrawal completion when it comes to a serious habit.

Stamps are literally known for being garbage purity, by the way. Even more so in the times you were attempting to “brag” about.

everyone is different with detox. All I did was share my experience to validate my views you where challenging. Sorry you feel it was a direct challenge directed at you/

a direct jab at my character "garbage" shows who you are and intent.

Sounds like this interaction is over.

 

[dieselbaby]

everyone is different with detox. All I did was share my experience to validate my views you where challenging. Sorry you feel it was a direct challenge directed at you/

a direct jab at my character "garbage" shows who you are and intent.

Sounds like this interaction is over.

Your posts come across as (at best) condescending and arrogant in their tone. In my opinion, I would say more like the words of a pseudo-intellectual’s idea of what a “veteran” opioid user should sound like. It’s cringe as hell.

And no, no dope user I know of would ever concur with your “3 days” nonsense. That’s utterly absurd. It doesn’t even begin to get really bad until the middle/end of the 2nd day, and you’re barely past the halfway point 72+ hours into it.

Calling people “honeymooners” is some of the lamest, most poseur-like behavior I have seen on this site in a long time. Cut it out.

 

[Them Witches]

Your posts come across as (at best) condescending and arrogant in their tone. In my opinion, I would say more like the words of a pseudo-intellectual’s idea of what a “veteran” opioid user should sound like. It’s cringe as hell.

Not all of them, some of them. When they tale place I am returning the same energy being directed toward.

A simple fix is in order to please all - do not respond to my posts vice versa. the same goes for the other guy in this.

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

everyone is different with detox. All I did was share my experience to validate my views you where challenging. Sorry you feel it was a direct challenge directed at you/

a direct jab at my character "garbage" shows who you are and intent.

Sounds like this interaction is over.

I know you ordered us not to reply to you anymore… but calling stamp bags garbage is a jab at your character? A person shouldn’t ever attach themselves or their character so strongly to a form of drug packaging.

The only person who said anything that could slightly be construed as a jab at your character is the person that (rightly) called out your attempt to insult me/others with the use of “honeymooners”.

And actually, all of your posts were definitely (at best) condescending and arrogant, for no reason.