Addict once, addict for life?

[Deleted member 591812]

Its a pretty common saying that if you're an addict once you're an addict for life, because of how hard stuff like benzos and opiates are to quit, and you're constantly fighting temptation your entire life, but is this saying actually true though?

Someome who only abuses drugs(nothing too hard like heroine or meth) for a short time and quits, does the temptations go on for life or does everything go back to normal after say an year

 

[Vanilla_Incense]

Depends on the person and why they are using. I've had friends who have messed around with drugs for a bit but seem to have basically stopped doing them (I guess it was just experimentation).

 

[cnnka]

I have came off to everything I was using I was casually addicted to weed for 15 years.
I have periods this period I use benzos and some opioids.
I see myself use one substance or another for my whole life.
Can’t really comprehend the idea to not use anything for life , is a great idea however I need something for night sleep anxiolysis etc.

 

[Deleted member 591812]

I have came off to everything I was using I was casually addicted to weed for 15 years.
I have periods this period I use benzos and some opioids.
I see myself use one substance or another for my whole life.
Can’t really comprehend the idea to not use anything for life , is a great idea however I need something for night sleep anxiolysis etc.

Couldnt you just take something like melatonin for sleep, and i dont mean to be rude but since ive never used any drug for anxiolysis im a bit uninformed, couldnt you just yk deal with the stress or anxiety, why do you need a drug to manage it

 

[Vanilla_Incense]

yk deal with the stress or anxiety, why do you need a drug to manage it

because drugs immediately alleviate those negative feelings

Its a bad coping mechanism though

 

[Deleted member 591812]

because drugs immediately alleviate those negative feelings

Its a bad coping mechanism though

I actually really enjoy stress and anxiety, even the really bad attacks, maybe due to undiagnosed adhd but it helps me get shit done and it makes me feel weird in a euphoric way, so would that make me less prone to addiction for anxiolytic drugs like benzos

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I actually really enjoy stress and anxiety, even the really bad attacks, maybe due to undiagnosed adhd but it helps me get shit done and it makes me feel weird in a euphoric way, so would that make me less prone to addiction for anxiolytic drugs like benzos

I'm afraid not - the initial pull may be less as you may not experience the relief others experience (saying that I do think some part of your psyche would feel relief) - but it's not going to spare you the crippling physical addiction of drugs like benzos

 

[pixies+]

I'm afraid not - the initial pull may be less as you may not experience the relief others experience (saying that I do think some part of your psyche would feel relief) - but it's not going to spare you the crippling physical addiction of drugs like benzos

100 fucking %

 

[cnnka]

Couldnt you just take something like melatonin for sleep, and i dont mean to be rude but since ive never used any drug for anxiolysis im a bit uninformed, couldnt you just yk deal with the stress or anxiety, why do you need a drug to manage it

Melatonin works but not in a way that I want. See the problem isn’t so much with the sleep I can easily sleep if I want to. The reason is I need to unwind and feel a relief of the bad thoughts and feelings. I don’t use a substance at day time no matter how rough a day is , but at night I want my ME time , sit down , get relief quiet my mind , smoke a cigar see a tv show and then can go to sleep in peace.

I actually really enjoy stress and anxiety, even the really bad attacks, maybe due to undiagnosed adhd but it helps me get shit done and it makes me feel weird in a euphoric way, so would that make me less prone to addiction for anxiolytic drugs like benzos

I was just like you I actually enjoyed the anxiety and it would make me feel alive and do things. But after years of untreated anxiety this anxiety has evolved it’s not that I’m unable to do things I do all kinds of freaky things I was an ex navy seal (in my country not USA) 2 years ago.
It has evolved and it’s more like a deep burden and a really dread feeling like something bad is going to happen or that life is very tiring idk very heavy feeling.

 

[pixies+]

I’m an addict through and through.

I believe I was an addict long before I ever touched a mind altering substance. This may seem a little silly given that I was only 12 when I started to smoke weed, drink, and smoke cigarettes. The head rush from cigs was so funny to me for some reason. I loved it. That quickly faded as I “officially” became a smoker.

I will abuse anything put in front of me.

Oddly enough though.. alcohol isn’t something I find myself craving. And this was what I abused the most for the longest period of time.

After an intense period of iv cocaine use, alcohol lost its “magic” for me.

That being said.. I know I’d become an active raging alcoholic pretty fucking quick lol

At least I’m aware of these things. I wasn’t always.. nor did I care to be aware.

That’s just my own personal experience.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I’m an addict through and through.

I believe I was an addict long before I ever touched a mind altering substance. This may seem a little silly given that I was only 12 when I started to smoke weed, drink, and smoke cigarettes. The head rush from cigs was so funny to me for some reason. I loved it. That quickly faded as I “officially” became a smoker.

I will abuse anything put in front of me.

Oddly enough though.. alcohol isn’t something I find myself craving. And this was what I abused the most for the longest period of time.

After an intense period of iv cocaine use, alcohol lost its “magic” for me.

That being said.. I know I’d become an active raging alcoholic pretty fucking quick lol

At least I’m aware of these things. I wasn’t always.. nor did I care to be aware.

That’s just my own personal experience.

A lot of this.

I think addict is more of a personality type than an acute state of being. Some people can dabble and put it down while other others have brains which tell them "again, more" regardless of the substance.

I call it itchy brain. Gotta scratch that itch with something.

Edit: typo

 

[pixies+]

I think addict is more of a personality type that an acute state of being

I’ve never thought of it like that before.. well. I’ve never been able to put it in those words. This is a statement I feel in my bones.

I don’t believe I’ll ever put ALL mind altering substances to the side.
However.
I need to be hyper vigilant and tuned into what I’m doing and why I’m doing.

I have the itch. And I have to scratch.

These days I prefer to stick to some mushrooms and things of that nature. I’ve been overdoing the mushroom intake as well. My brain is lying to me and telling me it’s the only way I can cope and not stick needles into my neck with far worse drugs.

It’s been working. But it won’t hold me forever. I need to get “right” again.

Have some spiritual alignment therapy

 

[Shinji Ikari]

These days I prefer to stick to some mushrooms and things of that nature. I’ve been overdoing the mushroom intake as well. My brain is lying to me and telling me it’s the only way I can cope and not stick needles into my neck with far worse drugs

I've also been guilty of taking waaaaaaaaaay too many psychedelics in the past -recent past, sort of ongoing- especially 2cb but also acid and to a lesser exent shrooms largely because it's a relatively safe and non-distruptive way to get high but really I take them for the same reasons I drank and took uppers. So yeah I feel that.

Being sober is fucking dull and the days are way too long.

Itchy itchy.

Does have to be said I'm much better at moderating when I just take my fucking elvanse like a good boy, which makes perfect fucking sense when you think about it. I wonder how many addicts have undiagnosed or uncontrolled ADHD. Probably most of them.

 

[cnnka]

I’ve never thought of it like that before.. well. I’ve never been able to put it in those words. This is a statement I feel in my bones.

I don’t believe I’ll ever put ALL mind altering substances to the side.
However.
I need to be hyper vigilant and tuned into what I’m doing and why I’m doing.

I have the itch. And I have to scratch.

These days I prefer to stick to some mushrooms and things of that nature. I’ve been overdoing the mushroom intake as well. My brain is lying to me and telling me it’s the only way I can cope and not stick needles into my neck with far worse drugs.

It’s been working. But it won’t hold me forever. I need to get “right” again.

Have some spiritual alignment therapy

I do kinda the same thing always rotating. But as I get older more drugs come out of the rotation.
Mushrooms and psychedelics are too much for me mentally I couldn’t ever use them regularly, I’ve used DMT that way and was too much.

Aren’t the psychedelics too much for you guys to use them regularly? I mean if I used them every week I’ll probably go whack in mind.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Aren’t the psychedelics too much for you guys to use them regularly

2cb really easy to take the piss with because tolerance goes up slowly and drops quickly. Acid and shrooms I just get diminishing returns owing to tolerance, but I've never felt any kind of negative impact from using them, just a lot of meh trips when tolerance has been too high.

I'm surprised I don't smoke DMT more often. It's so convenient and short-lived that I surprise myself by not taking it all the time, but something about the intensity makes it feel like a lot more effort than something like acid despite only lasting 5 minutes.

That said, I did smoke some changa last night, and might smoke some more right about now.

 

[pixies+]

. I wonder how many addicts have undiagnosed or uncontrolled ADHD. Probably most of them

This is the belief my doctor has. He’s a good one.

 

[pixies+]

I do kinda the same thing always rotating. But as I get older more drugs come out of the rotation.
Mushrooms and psychedelics are too much for me mentally I couldn’t ever use them regularly, I’ve used DMT that way and was too much.

Aren’t the psychedelics too much for you guys to use them regularly? I mean if I used them every week I’ll probably go whack in mind.

Honestly.. compared to the way I used to live my life, which was shooting as many drugs as I could into my neck… mushrooms are a walk in the park.

Of course this isn’t for everyone and I’d never suggest it.

I’m currently trying to find my way through some very murky waters… im
Giving myself a little too much leeway.

I need to get my head outta my ass asap.

This life shit isn’t going away.. unless I make it go away. I don’t have it in me to go there anymore. I need to be healthy for the little human I have watching how I deal with things.

 

[cnnka]

2cb really easy to take the piss with because tolerance goes up slowly and drops quickly. Acid and shrooms I just get diminishing returns owing to tolerance, but I've never felt any kind of negative impact from using them, just a lot of meh trips when tolerance has been too high.

I'm surprised I don't smoke DMT more often. It's so convenient and short-lived that I surprise myself by not taking it all the time, but something about the intensity makes it feel like a lot more effort than something like acid despite only lasting 5 minutes.

That said, I did smoke some changa last night, and might smoke some more right about now.

Good thing with DMT is you can take 1 or 2 tokes and see some visuals etc and it’s actually easy but still kinda intense. If ya take too much bye bye. I’ve heard Changa is very interesting , strange thing with DMT are snakes and I’ve heard in change their kinda more prominent

 

[Shinji Ikari]

. If ya take too much bye bye. I’ve heard Changa is very interesting

Hardly any different to hitting raw spice in a vape if I'm honest. It comes on a bit slower and wears off a bit slower but you're still feeling it hit by the time you've finished exhaling and coming down almost as quickly as you've come up.

Adding to a joint might be nice idk.

 

[cnnka]

Hardly any different to hitting raw spice in a vape if I'm honest. It comes on a bit slower and wears off a bit slower but you're still feeling it hit by the time you've finished exhaling and coming down almost as quickly as you've come up.

Adding to a joint might be nice idk.

When I was using it I was actually smoked weed first then vape DMT and on the comedown I was totally sober from weed. Then smoked weed again and again DMT. It was actually a very euphoric combo.