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Uppers and downers

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What’s the best combos of uppers and downers? I’m trying to be prescribed addy, and I’m wondering what Benzo I should ask for? I’ve mainly used Xanax and Kpins. Thanks!
 
What’s the effect you are after? Many combos just cancel each other out but lots of meth and a valium always worked for me - especially for making the most of that shitty time between 4 AM and dawn. Totally chill and totally spun at same time while waiting for the next day of the binge to kick off.
 
I think dosing both addy and a benzo at the same time is kinda pointless. If your amphetamine is causing bad anxiety you’re taking too much. But like Atelier3 said a benzo is great after you’ve begun to come down a bit, to take the edge off.
 
Why are you asking for amphetamine and benzodiazepines? Both are controlled drugs and most doctors will think twice before handing out scripts for Adderall and Xanax. The fact you mention they are "uppers and downers" suggests you're not taking them for any medical reason, rather to get high.
 
What’s the best combos of uppers and downers? I’m trying to be prescribed addy, and I’m wondering what Benzo I should ask for? I’ve mainly used Xanax and Kpins. Thanks!
I can’t lie. I love addys and kpins mixed. But u gotta make sure not to take too much kpin cause in my experience it overpowers the addys. So what I do *not suggesting this either* I do 30mg addy with .5mg kpins. Then about 30-45 mins later I will take another 30mg addy and that combo gets me feeling so damn good for like 4 hrs probably.
 
I take Ritalin for my ADHD, but pretty much abuse it and take research chemicals when I ran out of Ritalin until I can get my next prescription.

The absolute best downer by far was Mirtazipin. It's a drug to treat depression but it also helps with insomnia. Here in Germany, you need a prescription to get it and I could only obtain it for a short time, but god, it was great.
I sometimes took 60mg of Ritalin at 8pm to play video games for a few hours, then took Mirtazipin at 11 pm and was knocked out in 30 minutes. Normally, if I'd taken Ritalin at this time, I'd be up the whole night, even with over the counter sleeping medication.
But Mirtazipin worked wonders for me - I wish there was a doctor that'd prescribe it to me again.

Currently, I'm taking Avizafone HCL which is a research chemical and it works good to, although not as great as Mirtazipin, but I take it more to be relaxed in the evening.
 
I think dosing both addy and a benzo at the same time is kinda pointless. If your amphetamine is causing bad anxiety you’re taking too much. But like Atelier3 said a benzo is great after you’ve begun to come down a bit, to take the edge off.
I get where you’re coming from, but honestly, I think Addys and benzos can be a great combo when used responsibly. I’ve done it many, many times and it’s helped me find a solid balance. The stimulant gives me focus and energy, while the benzo takes the edge off—especially in social situations or during high-stress days. Everyone’s different, so it’s really about finding what works best for you.

For instance, I’ve found my sweet spot. It doesn’t last super long, but for a solid 3 hours it feels amazing. Around 60mg of Adderall with 2mg of Klonopin is that perfect mix for me—super focused, calm, and just locked in without the anxiety. That combo just hits different when you’ve got it dialed in.
 
Is that considered a speedball ? My favorite was crack / xanex
Coke / xanex
Meth / colonipan or valume
 
I would not take both at all. I was partying last week and took 15 mg of adderal and had a great time dancing. 6 hours later I took 2 mg of Xanax to go to bed. I only take these drugs very infrequently.
 
Gor to agree, this doesn't seem to be anything but recreational.

10mg IR Ritalin plus 5mg diazepam ( 2-3x a day ) is a good functioning dose for not being high or speedy but work motivated and benzos just to keep semi calm and anxiety build ups down. This is for HR purposes.

But if you looking at phatma grade speedball then sorry, unless it's pharm diacytelmorphine and pure cocaine..

Rather just leave it be.
 
Echoing other responses but “for pure function”, a long acting benzo with multi faceted GABA features (anxiety relief, muscle relaxation etc) else Pregabalin paired with either Longacting Methylphenidate, Lisdextroamphetamine or even Desoxyn (Dextromethamphetamine) in prescribed doses would be my bet

But this is not something that can be replicated without significant breaks, especially with how dangerous Benzos tend to be. Your talking about utilising it once every 2-4 weeks for it to ever be functional in my opinion.

anything over 10mg of Diazepam, 50-70mg Lisdex, 10mg Desox, 36-54mg Methyl(Concerta) or like 150-300mg pregab would blur the function aspects if we are talking someone with no tolerance as these would go up higher.

Hedonism however, I’d go with Opioid and Stimulant, either Dextrometh or Mepherdrone unless you prefer Reuptake like Cocaine. MDMA I would add as contender but it may be to entacogenic and to get insane effects which are imo beyond anything I’ve achieved recreationally is also so unsafe.

Using higher than safe amounts as I have done moons ago is vastly more recreational but stupidly dangerous, starfucked eyes wiggling and bleeding from the gums from gurning so badly is a once in a life time experience but is not worth it.

Then to pair has to be a opioid, Oxycodone, is my pick but proper Diacetyl, or Dextromoramide (good luck) are the other kings reportedly.
 
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ive just been diagnosed as being high autism spectrum at the age of 53. Will i automatically get a ritalin script? IM also on methadone but only 50 mg a day. Just a footnot to the combining opioid and stimulants. The one opioid which is not to be combined with a stimulant is tapentadol. a relatively new opioid Its stronger than dihyydrocodeine. Its based on tramadol but it doesnt have the same pleasant effects. Mixed with a stimulant it will make you ill,.
 
ive just been diagnosed as being high autism spectrum at the age of 53. Will i automatically get a ritalin script? IM also on methadone but only 50 mg a day. Just a footnot to the combining opioid and stimulants. The one opioid which is not to be combined with a stimulant is tapentadol. a relatively new opioid Its stronger than dihyydrocodeine. Its based on tramadol but it doesnt have the same pleasant effects. Mixed with a stimulant it will make you ill,.
there are no drugs currently for autism specifically, but if there are issues with concentration a physician can prescribe ADHD medications
 
there are no drugs currently for autism specifically, but if there are issues with concentration a physician can prescribe ADHD medications
Thanks , I have taken Ritalin before unprescribed and in a small dose it does help me focus and be less chaotic- i suppose its something to consider in the long term,.
 
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