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happiness is not the same as enjoying life. I enjoy my life for what it is worth and I am happy most of the time but I would not say I like things I experience in life.

Life is hard when compounded by stress and negative forces. We don’t think about how hard life is, we persevere and go through it without a second thought. Happiness is acquired learning it takes time and experience to learn what happiness is to you. Truth is I don’t like life, never have. Living is not what I would choose to do if there were other options on the table.

I was born by no choice of my own and I will die the same way without choosing a time or place of my own. I do not own my life if I did there would not be laws designed to prevent me from choosing how to live or die. Free will is thinking without action based on laws of prevention and morale consciousness. For true free will to exist thoughts and actions would have no boundaries for fear of consequences.

Even without restrictions it would be difficult for me to like the idea of living, if the alternative was nothing at all.
 
M!$TER-ED said:
happiness is not the same as enjoying life. I enjoy my life for what it is worth and I am happy most of the time but I would not say I like things I experience in life.
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In a nutshell, no I do not like the life I have at the moment. 20 years ago I would have said yes. and 5 years from now I could say yes. But right now life is kicking my ass, one loss after another. Seasons NEVER changing and just limbo and more limbo. Probably about 6 different areas I could pinpoint.

Deep down I am happy looking at the whole picture. Today not so much. So possibly we get moments. But the day to day living is a grind.

M!$TER-ED said:
I was born by no choice of my own and I will die the same way without choosing a time or place of my own.
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Here is where I can get confused. I made a choice to reply this topic. I will probably chose what I will eat. I chose the jobs I take, the people I call friends. And in another 3 minutes will make a choice to get up and pee. So I was always under the impression that I make all choices. Philosophically I can say I make a choice to live everyday and not off myself. So I would have to question the point where someone or something made a choice for me. I mean I can see that sometimes the situation is in charge. If I am driving and get a flat tire I did not choose that. But how I handle the situation is up to me so there is some choice.

M!$TER-ED said:
Even without restrictions it would be difficult for me to like the idea of living, if the alternative was nothing at all.
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Same here. The world of duality. One side easy, the other difficult. Night and day. Black and white. So any notion of physical life being enjoyable leaves the room for the next unenjoyable moment. So how can life be only one thing? Nature helps. Light is one thing. No duality. So it wets our whistle to learn more. And oddly light reveals what is in the dark. It also affects time. Light itself should genuinely spin everyone's head that even thinks about it. Einstein was spun about it and taught us some stuff.

I have no doubt some people live charmed lives. But even they live in duality.
 
JackARoe said:
Here is where I can get confused. I made a choice to reply this topic. I will probably chose what I will eat. I chose the jobs I take, the people I call friends. And in another 3 minutes will make a choice to get up and pee. So I was always under the impression that I make all choices. Philosophically I can say I make a choice to live everyday and not off myself. So I would have to question the point where someone or something made a choice for me. I mean I can see that sometimes the situation is in charge. If I am driving and get a flat tire I did not choose that. But how I handle the situation is up to me so there is some choice.
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My point was I was not given the ability to choose to be born or not. As far as living goes I choose according to will and desire.
 
M!$TER-ED said:
My point was I was not given the ability to choose to be born or not. As far as living goes I choose according to will and desire.
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Exactly and I stand by my inability to answer that based off of the logic that we choose just about everything else. A part of me thinks on some level, we choose that too. If that was not a choice then I would have to call myself a victim of circumstance. Where as I am living I am a victim to my own choices.

If we don't choose, and again I am not saying we do one way or another, but if we don't where does the choice come from?
 
JackARoe said:
In a nutshell, no I do not like the life I have at the moment. 20 years ago I would have said yes. and 5 years from now I could say yes. But right now life is kicking my ass, one loss after another. Seasons NEVER changing and just limbo and more limbo. Probably about 6 different areas I could pinpoint.

Deep down I am happy looking at the whole picture. Today not so much. So possibly we get moments. But the day to day living is a grind.


Here is where I can get confused. I made a choice to reply this topic. I will probably chose what I will eat. I chose the jobs I take, the people I call friends. And in another 3 minutes will make a choice to get up and pee. So I was always under the impression that I make all choices. Philosophically I can say I make a choice to live everyday and not off myself. So I would have to question the point where someone or something made a choice for me. I mean I can see that sometimes the situation is in charge. If I am driving and get a flat tire I did not choose that. But how I handle the situation is up to me so there is some choice.


Same here. The world of duality. One side easy, the other difficult. Night and day. Black and white. So any notion of physical life being enjoyable leaves the room for the next unenjoyable moment. So how can life be only one thing? Nature helps. Light is one thing. No duality. So it wets our whistle to learn more. And oddly light reveals what is in the dark. It also affects time. Light itself should genuinely spin everyone's head that even thinks about it. Einstein was spun about it and taught us some stuff.

I have no doubt some people live charmed lives. But even they live in duality.
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The duality of nature and reality I cannot deny. I am old and bored with my life even though I do not know death it may or may not be the change I desire. I do not believe in an afterlife, however, nothingness without thought or reason may be a welcome reprieve for this tired old man.

I’ve accomplished all I set out to do, there is nothing more that interests me given my health and abilities.

I saw a t shirt for sale on Amazon with the logo, Hi, I don’t care..thank you.
 
JackARoe said:
Exactly and I stand by my inability to answer that based off of the logic that we choose just about everything else. A part of me thinks on some level, we choose that too. If that was not a choice then I would have to call myself a victim of circumstance. Where as I am living I am a victim to my own choices.

If we don't choose, and again I am not saying we do one way or another, but if we don't where does the choice come from?
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We choose not to choose, that is a choice.
 
Liking life and liking yourself are two different things. I like myself, but life as whole is predominately unenjoyable at least that is my take on life. To each their own, not everyone feels as I do but from experience I cannot say I appreciate living like I should be thankful or something like that.
 
M!$TER-ED said:
Liking life and liking yourself are two different things. I like myself, but life as whole is predominately unenjoyable at least that is my take on life. To each their own, not everyone feels as I do but from experience I cannot say I appreciate living like I should be thankful or something like that.
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I agree. When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door. No rest for the weary. But we can like how we react to the drama. Like that is the real test.

I do look at this world through the eyes of Christ. Leave the world to the worldly. Don't store your treasures on earth where they can get corrupted, store them in heaven for a lasting eternity. To me that lets my dislike for the world off the hook. If you love your life you will lose it, anyone that hates their life will keep it for eternity. That must mean something that makes it ok for me to not like life. Or at least the temporary things.

Had a lot of thoughts, going to find time and add more.
 
JackARoe said:
I agree. When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door. No rest for the weary. But we can like how we react to the drama. Like that is the real test.

I do look at this world through the eyes of Christ. Leave the world to the worldly. Don't store your treasures on earth where they can get corrupted, store them in heaven for a lasting eternity. To me that lets my dislike for the world off the hook. If you love your life you will lose it, anyone that hates their life will keep it for eternity. That must mean something that makes it ok for me to not like life. Or at least the temporary things.

Had a lot of thoughts, going to find time and add more.
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What are the eyes of Christ? This makes no sense to me..Christ is a figurehead for Christianity who allegedly is the son of god born a man whose mission is to save the world from sin?
What is sin if not a ploy for nonbelievers to submit themselves to Christian doctrine? Christ is said to come into a sinners life for believers to be forgiven of sin so they can have eternal life in heaven with god. Anyone who does not believe in Jesus as their savior spends eternity in hell as punishment.
I personally don’t believe this although I tried to for many years. I learned by being accountable for my thoughts and actions I am able to live with myself. Before I could do that however, I needed to make amends for past mistakes and forgive myself for being such an asshole to people.
Once satisfied I could do nothing more about my past I switched gears and concentrated on the present.
Sin is nothing more than regret and remorse I don’t regret or feel remorseful about anything. My choices are my own and I stand by them as the best choices at the time. Why should I feel bad or inadequate according to someone else’s view on life?
 
If you surround yourself in support of a belief and your thoughts and actions reflect that belief, no matter how absurd that belief may be it becomes real to you. So it is Christianity and religions
 
M!$TER-ED said:
What are the eyes of Christ? This makes no sense to me..Christ is a figurehead for Christianity who allegedly is the son of god born a man whose mission is to save the world from sin?
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I see it in the Christ Consciousness way. Like when Jesus says not to judge, I try and put my Christ hat (or eyes) on. And simply practice what what was taught. Trying to see it Christ's way. That is what I mean. Not simply saying Christ died for our sins so I can be a piece of crap and I am forgiven instead of truly acting on the wisdom. (thinking of family members here not anyone on BL) That is what I mean if it makes sense. I gravitated toward the teachings, not the outer figure head that waves a wand to forgive my sins. I think the figure head notion is too literal. The son of God, well we are all sons of God and Jesus taught living a peaceful life and loving one another to be one. The works I do ye shall do also was said. So it is in his template I follow. (I'll take any refute with an open mind)

I can clear up my beliefs easy here. If a person in some remote region of the world that never heard of Jesus but actually instinctively follows the actual wisdom that Jesus gave then he too is on the right path. If he were he would recognize Christs teachings right away. So I say a person does not even have to know Jesus (let's say out of just not being exposed to it) but follows the core teachings and wisdoms is on the right path. He is "saved" for lack of a better term. The saved part comes from following the wisdom, watching his actions and being a son of God. Saved is an ongoing verb for me, not a one time noun.

i think the whole "son of God" thing is taken too literally too. And I notice a few hypocritical family members claim they are saved but do all the opposite actions of the teachings. But hey they are saved and can act like that don't you know? Again, they take saved as a noun, not an ongoing verb.

Hey Mr, Ed thanks for all the thoughtful posts. Got me thinking about a lot and you kicked up the forum in a good way. It was slow for a while. It is hard to talk about things like this without becoming preachy. But I think we all do a good job. I try and keep an open mind and it starts like reading all the posts.

pnillyg said:
I like my life. And I hate my life. Sometimes is great but most the time it’s shitty. Constantly hanging on to hope it will get better not just for a moment but at least 50/50…
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Perfect. I get that. Hope is missing a lot today.
 
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It's been up down has my life since day one, and due to the downs I turned to drugs mainly crack I then on it felt carefree and happy but then after so many years the enjoyable effects wore off and it became shit until me stopping two weeks ago but I get bored now with not being able to work and not having a social circle, it's just me and no one else other than I see my family fairly regularly but no friends to chill with
I do still speak to people I know who are customers of my old suppliers but only occasionally do I see them out and about and only briefly chat for five minutes I then make reasons that I have things to do as I want to keep off the gear, loneliness and boredom are current problems but better than loneliness and having a shit time on crack no matter how much I do of it, hence stopped it. But this forum is my contact to people and supportive ones♥️
 
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It's been up down has my life since day one, and due to the downs I turned to drugs mainly crack I then on it felt carefree and happy but then after so many years the enjoyable effects wore off and it became shit until me stopping two weeks ago but I get bored now with not being able to work and not having a social circle, it's just me and no one else other than I see my family fairly regularly but no friends to chill with
I do still speak to people I know who are customers of my old suppliers but only occasionally do I see them out and about and only briefly chat for five minutes I then make reasons that I have things to do as I want to keep off the gear, loneliness and boredom are current problems but better than loneliness and having a shit time on crack no matter how much I do of it, hence stopped it. But this forum is my contact to people and supportive ones♥️
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I do read and watch documentaries on differing religious beliefs but try only to accept parts and teachings I find relevant and helpful
 
The human condition is complex, a lot of life consists of assumptions because there are no real answers that are 100% accurate all the time. Everyone has meaning and purpose all of the time, even if you cannot see it. There are no mistakes in life, everything is as it should be.
 
just a coker 01 said:
It's been up down has my life since day one, and due to the downs I turned to drugs mainly crack I then on it felt carefree and happy but then after so many years the enjoyable effects wore off and it became shit until me stopping two weeks ago but I get bored now with not being able to work and not having a social circle, it's just me and no one else other than I see my family fairly regularly but no friends to chill with
I do still speak to people I know who are customers of my old suppliers but only occasionally do I see them out and about and only briefly chat for five minutes I then make reasons that I have things to do as I want to keep off the gear, loneliness and boredom are current problems but better than loneliness and having a shit time on crack no matter how much I do of it, hence stopped it. But this forum is my contact to people and supportive ones♥️
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I do read and watch documentaries on differing religious beliefs but try only to accept parts and teachings I find relevant and help
 
just a coker 01 said:
My ex partner was a mistake 🤣💯
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Maybe, did you benefit in any way or was the relationship totally without merit? People grow in the midst of adversity, are you different in any way because of your relationship?
Was your ex partner truly a mistake or perhaps a temporary diversion you needed that you were not aware of at the onset of the relationship?
There are no mistakes in life, only consequences.
 
just a coker 01 said:
A mistake, she is a screen double of Annie Wilkes from the film Misery and I was in the same situation as the author (victim) in the film, lying in bed with broken nose and her pulling out a carving knife, and babbling like a A1 lunatic etc
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Obviously I don’t know your situation but I believe even the bad is beneficial if we look objectively at the whole picture.
 
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