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Discussing Bible Verses (What you say?)

just a coker 01 said:
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Serpemt/snake has forked tongue if you get me
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But my personal belief is that the seepent/snake was/is not satan/the devil or lucifer, but that of another being of earth that observed creation and before and tried to educate eve without satan/the devil knowing, the serpent being of early knowledge and tried to protect and educate without as the phrase is blowing the gaff
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
I see why you struggle. It is a lie.

The Bible has God not willing that any of his perfectly created souls be lost, and unless you are fully faithless, you should be believing that.

How many levels of perfectly created souls do you think God creates?

All souls are perfect, as befits being created by a God. Right?
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I'm not sure how to answer your questions. But thank you for your honest thoughts.
 
JackARoe said:
Good idea, even a thread on the variations of verses so we can see if there are any discrepancies. I gather people use the King James version or some modern version first.
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There are presently over 900 versions of the the Bible in English alone, and more being released all the time. Some are quite different from others, it is a fascinating study on it's own. There is nothing wrong with anyone stating which of these was used, however I would stop short of requiring someone listing which one they use. I personally have added chapter and verse numbers to those posts that lack them so that everyone can look up the quoted verse in the version that they choose to use. I will not, however, do the extra work to find out which version was used if it was not already noted. Many many posts have been made without the basic identifying chapter and verse information.
 
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Good info CK. 900 versions. That is too many to reel in. But I agree, optionally if a person wants to put the version down go for it.
 
Psalm 46

For the director of music. Of the Sons
of Korah. According to alamoth. A song.
 
kiely said:
Psalm 46

For the director of music. Of the Sons
of Korah. According to alamoth. A song.
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That's an informative header explaining how the Psalm should be sung (the psalms were songs) ;)

- Korah, in the Bible, is known for leading a rebellion against Moses and Aaron during the Israelites' journey from Egypt to the Promised Land. He challenged their leadership and claimed that all the Israelites were holy and equally worthy of leading. As punishment, Korah and his followers were swallowed by the earth, and some were consumed by fire.

- "Alamoth" is the plural form of the Hebrew word "almah," meaning "young woman" or "maiden".
Musical Context:
It's understood to indicate a high vocal range or musical register, potentially a soprano or the voices of young women.

It is a musical direction for a female choir or a high-pitched musical arrangement.
Contrast with Sheminith:
The term "Sheminith," found in other psalm superscriptions, is often contrasted with Alamoth, indicating a lower register

Here is Psalm 46 (NRSVC version) :

God is our refuge and strength,
a very present help in trouble.

Therefore we will not fear, though the earth should change,
though the mountains shake in the heart of the sea;

though its waters roar and foam,
though the mountains tremble with its tumult. Selah

There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God,
the holy habitation of the Most High.

God is in the midst of the city; it shall not be moved;
God will help it when the morning dawns.

The nations are in an uproar, the kingdoms totter;
he utters his voice, the earth melts.

The Lord of hosts is with us;
the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah

Come, behold the works of the Lord;
see what desolations he has brought on the earth.

He makes wars cease to the end of the earth;
he breaks the bow, and shatters the spear;
he burns the shields with fire.

“Be still, and know that I am God!
I am exalted among the nations,
I am exalted in the earth.”

The Lord of hosts is with us;
the God of Jacob is our refuge.

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Leviticus, 39-46. Anyone wanna try to reconcile this with... sanity, somehow? I ask in good faith but somewhat in jest because this is pretty low hanging fruit and I already understand much of the context, but still, I'd just like to hear from anyone who thinks this really means anything beyond the scribblings of a superstitious, presumably educated, fortunate enough to be able to write, historical figure while enraptured in some kind of nonsensical mania. :LOL: I'll add a little commentary just to make my confusion clearer.

YHVH said:
39 And if thy brother be waxen poor with thee, and sell himself unto thee, thou shalt not make him to serve as a bondservant.
40 As a hired servant, and as a settler, he shall be with thee; he shall serve with thee unto the year of jubilee.
41 Then shall he go out from thee, he and his children with him, and shall return unto his own family, and unto the possession of his fathers shall he return.
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(If your [male? realistically] friend/relative is desperately poor, don't make them a slave.)
YHVH said:
42 For they are My servants, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt; they shall not be sold as bondmen.
43 Thou shalt not rule over him with rigour; but shalt fear thy God.
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(Neither should you enslave any Israelites, friend or not, and fear the punishment I will inflict on you if you disobey!)
YHVH said:
44 And as for thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, whom thou mayest have: of the nations that are round about you, of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them may ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they have begotten in your land; and they may be your possession.
46 And ye may make them an inheritance for your children after you, to hold for a possession: of them may ye take your bondmen for ever; but over your brethren the children of Israel ye shall not rule, one over another, with rigour.
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(But if you do have slaves already, that's cool, you can keep 'em. In fact, feel free to get some more, from some godforsaken foreign hell. Feel free to also enslave the children of your current slaves, or any other slaves you might acquire. Your own kids can then inherit your slaves! Slavery is fine, remember, as long as the slaves aren't Israelites. Even if they're poor! If you're tempted to enslave that poor guy you don't like who lost all his flock to wolves last week, don't, because trust me I will do horrible fucking things to you if you do, be afraid, my wrath is a fate worse than death! Never forget how much you need to fear me, no Israelite slaves! Otherwise though keep on slavin' and selling those lil
pica-ninnies*
, what else are we gonna do, just NOT enslave people?! What are we, woke libtards or something? :ROFLMAO:)


...Haha, OK, thus concludes my commentary. I mean, what the fuck? Someone wanna explain how this book is so revered with mad shit like this throughout? How is it that given the bible is already a heavily edited mishmash of almost too many cooks, how is it that this entire section hasn't been dropped, or perhaps someone else could extrapolate some balancing act to this horrorshow, I dunno, divine revelation that Leviticus was an agent of Satan..? I mean there's a lot of scope for fixing shit like this in a story like the Bible, generally.

Also - *on that "spoiler" tag I used, actually I dunno how much of a slur that is in the context but it felt kinda dirty to write, I'm obviously trying to make a strong point, and also I watched an absolutely horrific dark alternate history film recently where someone said that and it's been stuck in my head. If it's profoundly horrible I'll just delete it, or, mods, feel free if you get to it first. But I am trying to paint a clear allegory here, of course, I know ancient slavery wasn't chattel slavery and transatlantic deathships but, this is the Word Of God, supposedly, and slavery is slavery... just never got over Eve eating that apple eh, we're all such deceitful sinners that it's no big deal to be enslaved. Unless you're an Israelite, then you're just better than those apple-munching twats. :ROFLMAO: Hah, sorry I hope this is that kinda thread or it's allowed to be but I just find the whole situation hilarious in it's absurdity.
 
Luke 14:26

(Jesus said) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and his mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
I have been watching the new Edgar Cayce video's on Youtube. I think it is Soul in Reflection. I was watching one on gratitude. On discussing how Jesus divided the loaves of bread or fish for people, he thanked God Before he multiplied the food. Powerful concept.

Mark 6:41
asking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, Jesus spoke a blessing and broke the loaves. Then He gave them to His disciples to set before the people. And He divided the two fish among them all.
 
" on whom you see the spirit descending, it is she/ he who baptizes with the holy spirit "

Johannes. Bible full of metaphors was stated before commencing. So i am keeping a track record of them. Hopefully making sense of the possible layer s as they unfold.
 
jasperkent said:
Luke 14:26

(Jesus said) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and his mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
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Whew, if that’s the case then I guess I’m sitting pretty well… although hate is sort of a strong word.
 

The kingdom of God is within you Jesus ( Luke 17 21 )




In Luke 17:21, Jesus tells the Pharisees that "the kingdom of God is within you" (or "in
your midst/among you"), meaning God’s reign is not a future political or physical
territory to be observed, but a present spiritual reality. It signifies that the kingdom is
active through Jesus's ministry and dwells within believers through inner transformation.


"The kingdom of God is within you" (Luke 17:21) means God's reign is not a future
spectacle but a present reality, either inaugurated through Jesus's ministry (in your
midst) or as an internal spiritual transformation where God rules in believers' hearts,
starting a seed of His presence. While some translations use "within you," many scholars
favor "among you" or "in your midst," referring to Jesus Himself as the King bringing
God's rule to earth, challenging the Pharisees who didn't recognize it.



~~~~~ Not an argument, just a translation. ~~~~~



LDS
Luke 17


Chapter 17
Jesus speaks of offenses, forgiveness and faith - Even the faithful are
unprofitable servants - Ten lepers are healed - Jesus discourses on the
Second Coming.

21: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold,
the kingdom of God is within you.


Many modern Bibles like JW omit Matthew 17:21 because early, reliable manuscripts 😳
(like Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus ) don't contain it, suggesting it was added later.
 
May the power of Christ compel you ,only funning
I'm confused about Mathew 26:27 -28
There seems to be lots of different versions of the words Jesus spoke at the last supper around him passing the cup to his disciples saying "drink from it,all of you"
 
1 Peter 5:8

8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around
like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.



What does 1 Peter 5 8 mean :
1 Peter 5:8 tells us that the devil is “looking for someone to devour,” but verse 9 tells us that
if we are firm in our faith, then we have the power to resist ! That doesn't mean the attacks won't come,
but we can “Stand In Faith” and remain unmoved by staying rooted in God's Word.
 
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