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I've read reports on here about the withdrawals being unusually bad, and almost benzo-like. At first I was skeptical of that, assumed they were obviously worse than weed, but not that bad.

Anyways, they really are that bad...

I've been eating these THCP gummies daily for 4 or 5 months now. I don't know the dose, but they are very strong.

The withdrawals start at about ~10 hours. You get the plethora of typical weed withdrawals, except the dysphoria is much stronger, I start getting extreme dopamine cravings, as if I was coming off coke or something... but the kicker is the intense anxiety.

Here's the weird part. The anxiety is not controlled even by high doses of benzos!? It doesn't matter how doped up on benzos I am, I will have extreme anxiety unless I take more THCP....

I've started tapering, and my plan is to eventually switch to less potent alt noids, and eventually back to regular weed.

If anyone has any experience or tips, I would gladly appreciate it. I love THCP, but the withdrawals do not make it worth it over regular weed. It actually shocked me how bad they are.
 
Wow, damn. That bad? I guess I'm surprised but not outright shocked, this kinda makes some of what I was going through make sense - last year and early this year I was very much abusing all the alt noids, and very much to my detriment. Reminds me of the rude awakening I got way back in the spice days, when I started having seizures, fever, etc. after it got outlawed. Fun times. I guess I won't be trying that 1g pure thc-p cart at the smoke shop.

Nothing really tried and true I could suggest, only thing I've ever had any success with is a STRONG valerian tea, as in over-steep a cup of bedtime chamomile-valerian tea, then add a double dose of valerian extract. Works okay for me but I did build immunity over time, but it's also not something you wanna do continuously, can over tax the kidneys/liver.

Hope you feel better soon bro. ❤️
 
It was really bad, but I cut my dose in half and 3 or 4 days later the withdrawals were back in the realm of normality for weed. It was easy to taper. None of that weird anxiety anymore.

I can't really explain that, or why benzos did not help at all. Made me think of a reverse cannabis hyperemesis syndrome or something, idk.

I was taking high oral doses for a long time, like I would literally wake up at 2am and eat one and go back to sleep. I was dosing 24/7.
 
Wow I didn't even know that any of the neocannabinoids could actually give you withdrawal effects. Is THC-P worth the withdrawal effects? Despite them being out for a while I've never tried any of the alternate cannabinoids and I'm wondering how they compare to regular weed.
 
cycloprop said:
Wow I didn't even know that any of the neocannabinoids could actually give you withdrawal effects. Is THC-P worth the withdrawal effects? Despite them being out for a while I've never tried any of the alternate cannabinoids and I'm wondering how they compare to regular weed.
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I'd say stick to weed.

I do enjoy some of them, particularly THCP, much more than regular cannabis. But they are also more addictive, worse withdrawal, and they jack up your tolerance to regular weed like crazy. Not worth it if you have an predisposition to addiction.
 
I got something similar, but hugely less I'll wager, from THC-O-acetate. Taken as an edible, it took 3 hours (at least) to peak and lasted forever. Damn, it felt good. Lasted all night, more psychedelic (in the weed kind of way), I loved it. However, after 3-4 days continuous use I experienced withdrawal like I had been smoking flower for months and months. I can imagine what long term use and commensurate increasing dosage would have been.

Since this was theoretically a ∆9 effect, I think the long lasting effect was part of it since Methadone is supposed to be a worse withdrawal than Heroin for instance. Also, I think any pure cannabinoid jacks up tolerance more than flower. I've tried a lot of the smoke shop cannabinoids and my policy is to stick with flower all the way now.

I can't imagine all that and a more potent effect on the receptors as well. Holy fuck.
Not a full agonist, but heading in that direction.

"While THC is known to be a partial agonist of CB receptors with moderate affinity, THCP’s enhanced affinity for CB1 is more comparable to that of synthetic cannabinoids, which can often be full agonists at CB receptors."
https://www.crxmag.com/issues/2021/summer/basics.shtml
 
I suppose you are not on thcp anymore.
I did go through the wds of this while vaping for a couple months. Ran out and at work the next morning and started buggin. The only thing that brought me out of it was the dishwasher (called him Jake from state farm 😝 ) had a pen of it and I as soon as I found out I was like lemme hit it once to see if it will help cause he saw I was feeling off like a mf and I was thinking out loud about what the hell was in that shit. WDs went away immediately. I was like ,yep, gotta do something about this. I think I may have went to a d8 pen. Not exactly sure how I got off of it. Didn't have benzo then so cannot say if they would have helped or not but I did feel like I was in a benzo like wd with suddenly ceasing thcp. I also remember that the anxiety would keep building after onset in my case. Glad ol' boy had that pen. Not sure I would have been able to stay the whole shift.
Trip.
If I see it on a product I don't f with it.
Man I'm sorry you had to deal with that shit. I couldn't imagine how bad it got after dosages like that. I know it's easy to eat edibles I ate the hell out of d8 gummies a few years ago. Didn't feel like I was high but was delirious. Wife often asked with was wrong with me. 😆 Didn't know what she was talking about....
THCP I will never forget that experience.
 
I was all ready to say suck it up buttercup but than I saw it was you and had to do some reading on thcp....(a blatant admission of subjectivity which is objectively bad)
 
I've been having pretty bad withdraw symptoms from pretty egregious doses of HHC. I have some past history of use with synthetic noids that is also quite egregious and I think that has contributed. I'm sure THC-P would be worse.

I will probably eventually taper in a manner similar to the way I did the synthetic noids.
 
Maybe off topic, and obvious (tell me well duh?) , but do we think that the potent Semi Synths/Synths cause much more receptor down regulation therefore resulting in profound withdrawals than from say 20%thc smoked cannabis,

Saying from just my assumptions, if we see down regulation through the Cannabinoid receptors in basic Cannabis, I would say that dispels some of the myths of there being no withdrawal as some say, but again I may be just catching up to new knowledge.

I noticed a change indicating some dependence, as I smoked every night for a good 6 months up until April this year, and at best just some boredom, a stronger want for dopamine activity’s like OP said and a bit more difficulty sleeping.

On my two trips to Greece I did try out a couple Semi Synths, and my knowledge is rudimentary so I may list non psycho active CBD analogues by mistake that aren’t worth mentioning so sorry..

H3-CBN
HHC
Either a THCP with a distinction (like numbers) or THCP itself.
THCV (there was one that was weaker than THC and one stronger with very similar name to this, we had the stronger one and it fucking blew our nut off)

And others I can’t remember when I went to Corfu in 2024, that I’ve learnt that now are banned

These aren’t in the same ballpark due to my minor use compared to constant long dosing especially if vaped or taken oral so would explain why I came home and was fine on Normal THC.. but they were very interesting and the psychoactive ones were distinct.
 
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KurtAurelius said:
Maybe off topic, and obvious (tell me well duh?) , but do we think that the potent Semi Synths/Synths cause much more receptor down regulation therefore resulting in profound withdrawals than from say 20%thc smoked cannabis,

Saying from just my assumptions, if we see down regulation through the Cannabinoid receptors in basic Cannabis, I would say that dispels some of the myths of there being no withdrawal as some say, but again I may be just catching up to new knowledge.

I noticed a change indicating some dependence, as I smoked every night for a good 6 months up until April this year, and at best just some boredom, a stronger want for dopamine activity’s like OP said and a bit more difficulty sleeping.

On my two trips to Greece I did try out a couple Semi Synths, and my knowledge is rudimentary so I may list non psycho active CBD analogues by mistake that aren’t worth mentioning so sorry..

H3-CBN
HHC
Either a THCP with a distinction (like numbers) or THCP itself.
THCV (there was one that was weaker than THC and one stronger with very similar name to this, we had the stronger one and it fucking blew our nut off)

And others I can’t remember when I went to Corfu in 2024, that I’ve learnt that now are banned

These aren’t in the same ballpark due to my minor use compared to constant long dosing especially if vaped or taken oral so would explain why I came home and was fine on Normal THC.. but they were very interesting and the psychoactive ones were distinct.
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I would think it would be completely possible to give one's-self some pretty nasty withdrawal from smoked cannabis provided the dosing was frequent and big enough.
 
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notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
I was all ready to say suck it up buttercup but than I saw it was you and had to do some reading on thcp....(a blatant admission of subjectivity which is objectively bad)
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my dumb Catholic ass felt the need to confess apparently --- How are things going? (One of my worst fears is blowing out my THC receptors so I avoid synthetics like the plague) this is naturally derived (or can be) from the cannabis plant but has 33x the binding affinity,

If opiates are transfer metaphorically I know that binding affinity has a ton to do with tolerance (how quick it builds, long it lasts) and once you go to something with 33x the binding affinity it is going to take awhile before your 1x gold standard is working like it use too.

For example hydrocodone low binding affinity -- Suboxone high binding affinity --- even after having no Suboxone in me hydrocodone is a total waste 100mg plus even (CWE!) --- now fent high binding affinity --- couple days off Suboxone it (pharma fent products) is almost like I have no tolerance.

I am not positive that transference is there but it feels logical.
 
Even after a few weeks of vaping THCP I was getting very antsy in between doses and with normal bud I can even forget to smoke some evenings.
It's pretty nasty stuff. I wonder if it'll be seen like the JWH- MM- AB- synthetics eventually. Full agonist cannabinoids seem to be asking for trouble.
 
I would hate to recommend something more addictive and worse but perhaps melatonin, NyQuil *Tylenol +DXM, try and keep your schedule full.

Maybe switch to dab hits and see if that moves the antsy needle at all.

I am going to take a wild guess and say you live in a non legal state? --- Yea all these cutarounds are PROBLEMS that goes for every RC market just about. (God bless em but be careful) As the obvious and safe choice was picked and scheduled 100 yrs ago or w/e ppl go to great lengths to change the structure slightly while retaining any effects possible. (In many cases enhancing them lets be honest) to circumvent a law that honestly if you are that determined to break -- the safe move would be to regulate it and hand it out)

I hear drug prices are going down between 300 and 1400 percent in the US, according to Trump--- bout to get rich filling these scripts!
 
Dissociatives and phenibut plus tapering managed to get me out of synthetic cannabinoid withdrawals (mdmb 4en-pinaca/pica), I'm gonna try something similar with HHC when I am ready to quit. Right now I'm just taking half a gram a day orally (I absorb/metabolize oral noids like absolute shit), and vaping it sparsely. I'm gonna have to switch to another drug tho lol, I am depressed as fuck without cannabinoids.
 
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