Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v.4 The Orangeman Cometh

[aesthetic.addict]

Oh well thank you, its amazing how much of an impact some kind words from an internet stranger can have, that made my day!
What dose do you take of it now?

Yeah I skipped one more dose of bupe for 10mg oxy when I had friends over and I wanted to keep the ket vibe we had going.
Bupe disconnects me from "the whole" in a way. But hasn't had any since that.
Dropped to no more than 0.7 bupe a day now as well.
Actually I dont get any enjoyment what so ever from the bupe, especially not since beginning the taper. When I had no tolerance what so ever I felt bupe like a heroin high, on just some tony crumbs snorted. When I got clean from H and started MAT and had worked my way up to 24 mg I would feel something from taking 4mg extra, a little noddy at least.
But nothing since tapering. Maybe its because I associate bupe with posion in a way now, maybe that cancels out the positive effects I get from it. A lot comes down to mind set.
I do feel a lot better over all since getting down to these doses though, its more noticeable when I dont taper as fast as I have done but stays on the doses for 1-2 weeks instead.
That day I accidentally took 6 mg I felt horrible. was so naseus, felt poisoned fr. And the wd's the 3 days after was awful. Not doing that again Have accepted that I'm done with this substance for ever soon.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Its higher affinity allows you to shoot suboxone tablets

I've never understood this part of this post.

First of all, shooting suboxone tablets is super bad. Second of all, it's higher affinity means you don't even need to shoot it at all. lol Just rub some on the inside of your mouth or snort it & you'll get high.

 

[to_oblivion]

I've never understood this part of this post.

First of all, shooting suboxone tablets is super bad. Second of all, it's higher affinity means you don't even need to shoot it at all. lol Just rub some on the inside of your mouth or snort it & you'll get high.

I completely agree. Shooting suboxone, even Subutex, should be avoided at all costs. People are still gonna do it, but it should be said that its still a nasty habit and a dangerous past time to engage in.

 

[aesthetic.addict]

Today is the day to start getting back on the bupe, after a week of oxy. since I may have a urine sample a week from now. Went on the oxys for fun but stayed this long bc of stomach pain. Some days I was on 40mg but due to the pain I didn't find any enjoyment and I'm happy about that. It's been expensive as well. The last 2 days I've been on 20-25mg and took 0.15-0.20mg bupe with my last 5mg oxy.
Pain is better now btw it was due to excessive ketamine use.

 

[Sitting Kiwi93]

If I were you @Sitting Kiwi93 I'd taper down to 0 since you have access to it. I've read for hours and hours all over the web and it seems like that is the best option.
I've been wanting to jump off as well but changed my opinion after all the horror stories. You are on quite a low dose already but as I said since you have access, just taper down. Patience is key with coming off this substance it seems.

Also some extra tips: start exercising, meditating and eat omega 3, cut down on ultraprocessed food and nurture your relationships. It will help a ton.

I'm down to 1mg now. 0.7 some days. I've tapered quickly up until now though so I still have residual wd symptoms from my taper, like intense night sweats. But I've feel like my "connection to the rest of the universe" is coming back. I'm also dreaming again, even though I'm still smoking cannabis! That's huge for me, I've missed it so much.

Hey thanks for your encouragement. I have slowly crept up to a slightly higher dose since my last post, if it weighed 0.010g before, it’s been weighing 0.013g. Just because the tablets I have currently are so damn hard to break unlike previous ones I’ve used. I’ll have to be more diligent about it. Maybe it’s my sign to just go for a once a day instead of twice. To clarify, I’m not talking about 0.013g bupe, but rather what the broken off piece of tablet itself weighs.

I began exercising June 2023 (I’m one of those Peloton weirdos lol) and while learning to meditate is a work in progress (my brain is like a hamster wheel), I do find some breathing exercises help, such as alternate nostril breathing. I could always eat more omega-3 but also take a good vitamin stack including a fish oil too.

I have had many life changes in the last year particularly, but luckily one side effect is that I am closer with my family and my siblings children, who are at such a fun wonderful age! It’s great to bond.

I always felt that taking sub caused me to sweat more easily. It’s hard to explain but I notice now that I am on an almost zero dose, I am so much less sweaty even through the heat waves in my area! I totally understand the dreams coming back, it feels like they are in full force too. So intense that even good dreams aren’t really pleasant. I think I am also processing some traumatic experience too though. I hope your dreams are pleasant!

Today is the day to start getting back on the bupe, after a week of oxy. since I may have a urine sample a week from now. Went on the oxys for fun but stayed this long bc of stomach pain. Some days I was on 40mg but due to the pain I didn't find any enjoyment and I'm happy about that. It's been expensive as well. The last 2 days I've been on 20-25mg and took 0.15-0.20mg bupe with my last 5mg oxy.
Pain is better now btw it was due to excessive ketamine use.

I don’t check in here every day but I enjoy reading everyone’s posts, so I like your updates even if you think you’re rambling! Sorry you’ve been having stomach pain, but damn when I read that you tapered down from 28mg my jaw almost hit the floor, that’s seriously amazing and I’m as proud as I could be without knowing you irl lol.

@DeathIndustrial88 I feel like bupe is pharmacologically one of the weirdest medications. Maybe I feel that way because of how little research there seems to be or how little it’s talked about though. While I can’t say that I personally have gotten any super noticeable buzzes on the lower doses throughout my tapering, I do find that any time I have taken a larger dose (accidentally, curious, etc.), it’s always been a misfire and regrettable. It seems “more is better” doesn’t necessarily apply to bupe. Maybe you are referring to a small dose bupe + something like oxys but I wanted to throw my 2¢ in. I like your posts too and you seem pretty knowledgeable!

 

[aesthetic.addict]

Im at approximately 0.6-0.7mg buprenorphine a day now, Ive taken maybe 0.5 (0.25 in the morning and 0.25 in the afternoon, its now 9 in the evening) could I take some methadone and feel effects of it or should I wait until tomorrow? I probably should.
How much should I take to feel euphoric effects?

 

[Opana313]

I stack shit on top of my .5 intranasal(24hr dose) - 1mg all the time. Or at least I used to.

Fent, Trams, and too much oxy will break through or synergy quite well minus the oxy, that one really is just a waste but if you are blasting 2 or 3, 30mg pharma roxi after about 12 hours from a very smallsub dose, then ya at least for me I would feel a bit fantastic..

Also yes you do get a buzz like energy when lowered down and stable at .5- 1mg doses possibly 2mg ...any higher your back to zombie land.

 

[aesthetic.addict]

Ive been on 20/25mg methadone a day for 3 days now, would I get precip if I take a bupe dose now 15 hours after last methadone dose? Or should I wait? But even if I was on just 0.7mg bupe it shouldn't be all the way out of my body yet right since it only been 3 days?
I'll probably wait at least until tonight so it has been 24 hours

 

[Opana313]

I think you need to wait still, possibly 36hrs or whenever you are kicking bad, I would say you are good to go, BUT wait for another response I have no experience mixing methadone and bupe or the switch...plus idk I guess my body is lucky, or the bupe is just still stacked in my system(which I'm sure it is) but I used to try to wait 12-24hrs and end up using oxy which really is a waste, by the 2nd day of using oxy I usually feel if much better, but yeah strange and lucky shit is after the oxy is gone and that next morning WD starts, subs kill it, without ever ever experiencing precipitated WD...NOW if was using hella oxy every day for a month or two, I probably would get precipitated

But yes for sure wait bc methadone has a long half life too....unless the synthetic part means it may have synergies with bupe like,tramadol, kratom then that would be awesome buttt I doubt it and pcw is something to handle with care in order to avoid it

 

[aesthetic.addict]

Yeah okay thank you for your answer, ill probably give it a few more hours then. Im at the 27 hour mark now and starting to yawn, have runny eyes etc but it could just be because its night time. When I've switched between oxy and bupe it hasn't been a problem but the half life is way shorter then methadone so.
I should've probably be taking a tiny bupe dose with my methadone, ill probably do that next time to not loose all of it on my receptors.

@Opana313 When you switched to oxy, what doses of buprenorphine where you on and how high oxy dose did you need to feel anything?

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

I think you need to wait still, possibly 36hrs or whenever you are kicking bad, I would say you are good to go, BUT wait for another response I have no experience mixing methadone and bupe or the switch...plus idk I guess my body is lucky, or the bupe is just still stacked in my system(which I'm sure it is) but I used to try to wait 12-24hrs and end up using oxy which really is a waste, by the 2nd day of using oxy I usually feel if much better, but yeah strange and lucky shit is after the oxy is gone and that next morning WD starts, subs kill it, without ever ever experiencing precipitated WD...NOW if was using hella oxy every day for a month or two, I probably would get precipitated

But yes for sure wait bc methadone has a long half life too....unless the synthetic part means it may have synergies with bupe like,tramadol, kratom then that would be awesome buttt I doubt it and pcw is something to handle with care in order to avoid it

That’s not strange at all. That’s how it works. I use nitazenes nearly daily along with my suboxone. I keep dosing my sub to keep some bupe constantly on my receptors, so I never have to worry about PWD.

 

[aesthetic.addict]

I waited 30 hours (thats when the sneezing started)and then took 0.4mg bupe and didn't get PWD. Probably bc I was only on the methadone for 3 days so if anyone has been on it longer than that id recommend waiting a bit longer.
Next time ill dose some bupe along with it.

 

[aesthetic.addict]

Im having quite annoying wd's from the methadone even though I've taken my bupe, so I I'm happy I wasn't on it longer than 3 days. No sneezing or anything but cold sweats, joint pain and just an uneasy feeling. I'll probably be okay tomorrow though. Don't want to raise the bupe dose anything so just have to deal with it.

The reason im continuing on the bupe is to have some accountability with urine samples, and some extra but I don't think ill be on it longer than a few months more. In that time ill probably be able to taper down to 0.00mg and have a painless transition to being opiate free.

 

[aesthetic.addict]

I screwed up big time guys, was so set on not having drugs showing up in my UA but forgot to take a lot of bupe so was negative on that. Have to go every day now and theyll send the test on analysis. I have a doctors appointment on Wednesday and depending on what they say ill probably just quit there? I can taper with what I have home since I'm at such a low dose it doesn't even show up, right? I take less than 0.7mg a day. I can't bare going here every day to take 16 f-ing mg that I don't want or need?

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

I screwed up big time guys, was so set on not having drugs showing up in my UA but forgot to take a lot of bupe so was negative on that. Have to go every day now and theyll send the test on analysis. I have a doctors appointment on Wednesday and depending on what they say ill probably just quit there? I can taper with what I have home since I'm at such a low dose it doesn't even show up, right? I take less than 0.7mg a day. I can't bare going here every day to take 16 f-ing mg that I don't want or need?

I’d honestly just quit where you’re at. I’ve jumped off a much higher dose, after being on it for years. It was completely doable. You will be fine.

 

[aesthetic.addict]

Thank you, thats reassuring to hear if I choose to quit. Ive taken a larger doses today and will tomorrow as well, since ill provably have to leave a urine test on wednesday as well.
The strange thing is I took both gabapentin (1800mg) and ritalin (20mg) yesterday and was negative on those as well? But both those and the bupe should show up in an analysis right? Since I've taken 0.7-1mg the last 7 days? (7 days ago I had that 3 day methadone paus so I've taken bupe for 14 months before that)
So maybe I take my meds and stay of the drugs until they get the analysis answer and then decide what to do. Its the extra income I need, thats the thing..

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

Thank you, thats reassuring to hear if I choose to quit. Ive taken a larger doses today and will tomorrow as well, since ill provably have to leave a urine test on wednesday as well.
The strange thing is I took both gabapentin (1800mg) and ritalin (20mg) yesterday and was negative on those as well? But both those and the bupe should show up in an analysis right? Since I've taken 0.7-1mg the last 7 days? (7 days ago I had that 3 day methadone paus so I've taken bupe for 14 months before that)
So maybe I take my meds and stay of the drugs until they get the analysis answer and then decide what to do. Its the extra income I need, thats the thing..

I would expect Ritalin to show on a test, but I doubt Gabapentin will, unless they specifically test for it.

Again, I’d seriously drop your dose of bupe and just quit. Unless you mean that you’re selling the bupe for the extra income. In which case still quit, honestly.

 

[aesthetic.addict]

Ive benefitted a lot from going there and leaving urine samples as well since I don't have any self control when it comes to usage, and the fact that my other meds are prescribed from there as well. That makes it harder to just quit there

 

[aesthetic.addict]

I wasn't so clear about this but I'm not selling @Helpmeescapethis its my work, when I take drugs in the way I was doing the last few months, I just baarely work the days and hours I'm supposed to. I need to leave those urine samples to keep myself in check. Now I've actually been there every day I was supposed to.
But its a wierd feeling taking so much bupe again (2-4mg/day), the first days I really liked it, I still like it a bit but the euphoria is dissapearing again. Its super wierd since I've just gotten anxiety from it for so long. Right now Im just trying to accept amd coming to terms with going to the clinic every day. Still need it unfortunately.

 

[Opana313]

@Opana313 When you switched to oxy, what doses of buprenorphine where you on and how high oxy dose did you need to feel anything?

Great question. Since switching either way didn't matter, I found myself stacking BUT if i was only one 1mg oral maybe 2mg I could feel 30mg or more my style ar least 60mg Oxy intranasal but short lived so to speak. Sounds not bad but then of course you re-dose and found my self going through 5 or 6 30s in a 16hr time.

Oddly I found that after a good break from everything but the 1mg bupe, I even felt 40mg hydrocodone exceptionally well, almost potentiate but probably placebo.

I have wasted a lot but yeah after at least 24hrs and feeling shitty without bupe, a real 30 usually could do the trick but as far as legs...back to bupe. Glad to be down to .5 intranasal..been skipping days and can feel the others even better but the block effect still remains.
I really need to say no more to oxy and kick this sub..idk why I feel like it will be intolerable but shit the beginning sure dose!