Venting I just hate being sober

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Puns! awesome. SoReb -- do that. (I up your pun and raise an anagram)

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Tramadol is a weird high dosnt really feel like an opiate atol but if I had some I'd surely Finnish the whole lot lol.i once took it for 4 weeks at high doses years ago when I ran out it was full on withdrawls ,working 9 hours a day trying to avoid as much contact with other people was hell

I trust that, though it does feel like an opioid to me, and that's why I tapered it. No issues then. I've been taking silly amounts of Tapentadol instead and so I have to taper once again. This time fr...

 

[emkee_reinvented]

ah some sort of tramadol ,is it stronger than normal tramadol

No and yes, its the metabolite that your liver makes out of Tramadol.
But they are not alike ime. If you take Tramadol,
the first hour s are mainly Serotinergic, and Nor-Epinephrinegic.
O-SDMT is formed after 2/ 3 hours,
the point it actually becomes a painkiller. I can feel that.
This will probably be akin in feel to pure o-DSMT. to some.

o-DSMT is direct a painkiller and has effect s on Nor-Epineprphine.
To bad as i do feel that, but without Serotenergic s it s safer.
Regarding seizure s, and i can take more of it then the equvalent to Tramadol.
Tramadol beyond 50 made me feel queasy, always.

And dependend on the persons personal chemistry,
o-DSMT is a straight forward Mu-agonist [with NRI effects]

Then again on o-DSMT you can probably OD, But it has my approval.
Tramadol i wouldn t take when offered, my body don t agree with it.
I rather have Kratom. Or nothing.

eMKee

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

No and yes, its the metabolite that your liver makes out of Tramadol.
But they are not alike ime. If you take Tramadol,
the first hour s are mainly Serotinergic, and Nor-Epinephrinegic.
O-SDMT is formed after 2/ 3 hours,
the point it actually becomes a painkiller. I can feel that.
This will probably be akin in feel to pure o-DSMT. to some.

o-DSMT is direct a painkiller and has effect s on Nor-Epineprphine.
To bad as i do feel that, but without Serotenergic s it s safer.
Regarding seizure s, and i can take more of it then the equvalent to Tramadol.
Tramadol beyond 50 made me feel queasy, always.

And dependend on the persons personal chemistry,
o-DSMT is a straight forward Mu-agonist [with NRI effects]

Then again on o-DSMT you can probably OD, But it has my approval.
Tramadol i wouldn t take when offered, my body don t agree with it.
I rather have Kratom. Or nothing.

eMKee

Yes, everyone has a different metabolism... I personally like Tramadol a lot (too much)... It's out now but since I've almost burned through the Tapentadol as well it's time to taper that also... All the opis since I can't afford them at this level... Two weeks for tolerance reset... I hope I can do it. But I won't stop cold... Taper day one! Wish me luck!

 

[SotPoker1012]

Being sober is like watching paint dry. Combined with health anxiety sobriety is a special kind of hell.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Yes, everyone has a different metabolism... I personally like Tramadol a lot (too much)... It's out now but since I've almost burned through the Tapentadol as well it's time to taper that also... All the opis since I can't afford them at this level... Two weeks for tolerance reset... I hope I can do it. But I won't stop cold... Taper day one! Wish me luck!

Wishing you luck, remember Opioid s are way more rewarding.
What makes WD difficult, i assume, only have experience with powdered Kratom.

But the Alcohol, which isn t really rewarding certainly not att,
i got physically addicted to it. Felt like poison pouring in.
It has a WD stretched into 3 weeks of torture, and then 3 weeks PAWS.
No adequate treatment, but lucky about any drug is better.
So there are better option s, to distract me from relapses.

So when your off, these all cushion the landing, if available.
OxyCodone that was once prescribed to me, i decided not to abuse.
I didn t wanna know how it feels, like Heroine, i imagine.
Don t wanna know how that feels too.

Tapentadol don feel like Tramadol i guess ? It seems a solid OPIOID on paper.
Not the way Tramadol is treated, as scape-goat Opioid, prescribed to half the population.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Being sober is like watching paint dry. Combined with health anxiety sobriety is a special kind of hell.

My little private rule is, sober people [excluding exception s].
Are by default no matches, so a different race almost.

Would i make the Law, psychedelic and Cannabis intake would be:
one of the the things that would for example become a rule when becoming politician.
"Have you experience with Psychedelics, and smoke cannabis regularly, yes/ no"
No, meaning you can t applie without dr. statement you are allergic/ or have a condition. Preventing this. Other wise your appeal is denied.

Don t need a government formed of sober people and Alcoholic s.
Got some more non dug related rules i would make into law s.
Just to keep out what we are ruled by now sober or Alcoholic fools.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Wishing you luck, remember Opioid s are way more rewarding.
What makes WD difficult, i assume, only have experience with powdered Kratom.

Thank you ... And yes I'm missing the reward already .. I think best is to stay busy.. so I'm trying that. But I also have the Ketamine ready so I can cling to something...

But the Alcohol, which isn t really rewarding certainly not att,
i got physically addicted to it. Felt like poison pouring in.
It has a WD stretched into 3 weeks of torture, and then 3 weeks PAWS.
No adequate treatment, but lucky about any drug is better.
So there are better option s, to distract me from relapses.

So when your off, these all cushion the landing, if available.
OxyCodone that was once prescribed to me, i decided not to abuse.
I didn t wanna know how it feels, like Heroine, i imagine.
Don t wanna know how that feels too.

Wow... I could never leave it untouched

Tapentadol don feel like Tramadol i guess ? It seems a solid OPIOID on paper.

Tapentadol is kinda special. It's really causing hallucinations in higher doses and it always made me a bit rushy and clumsy. So great if you don't have to go out or face people, otherwise it can be quite embarrassing... Probably another matter of taste .

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Wow... I could never leave it untouched

I took as prescribed, i broke my collar bone.
3x 5mg a day, normally you don t get prescribed painkiller s.
For breaking bones or whatever.
But it hurt and as painkiller it was

I had luck, being treated by a very humane dr.

And i know myself, better not to know.
Knowing o-DSMT is already risky,
along all the legal available RC Benzo s. No dr will script.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

I took as prescribed, i broke my collar bone.
3x 5mg a day, normally you don t get prescribed painkiller s.
For breaking bones or whatever.
But it hurt and as painkiller it was

I had luck, being treated by a very humane dr.

And i know myself, better not to know.
Knowing o-DSMT is already risky,
along all the legal available RC Benzo s. No dr will script.

Ok, now I have to ask, speaking of RC benzos... Cause I would really appreciate something muscle relaxing as one irritating symptom of WD is that, damn tense muscles.. Yes painful and irritating,.. so which RC benzo is best for that?
(I don't get etizolam here)

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Ok, now I have to ask, speaking of RC benzos... Cause I would really appreciate something muscle relaxing as one irritating symptom of WD is that, damn tense muscles.. Yes painful and irritating,.. so which RC benzo is best for that?
(I don't get etizolam here)

Etizolam was king, no clue why it got banned,
nor why its not prescribed medically.

Just couldn t help thinking of the Spychonaut WIKI quote,
"... can ease that pain as it has muscle-relaxing effects"
It s my preferred Hypnotic it is also very, and not advising it.
As its apparently also dangerous, due too the long half-life.
You can get dose accumulation. Dependency, so careful.

Like Diazepam, but Flubromazepam also
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Flubromazepam

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Thank you ... And yes I'm missing the reward already .. I think best is to stay busy.. so I'm trying that. But I also have the Ketamine ready so I can cling to something...

Wow... I could never leave it untouched

Tapentadol is kinda special. It's really causing hallucinations in higher doses and it always made me a bit rushy and clumsy. So great if you don't have to go out or face people, otherwise it can be quite embarrassing... Probably another matter of taste .

Hallucination s from a Opioid pain killer , the rushy part i get on o-DSMT is too.
Probably the NRI action, but hallucination s i never had, only heard about Opium dreams.

And the weird effect s Zolpidem has on some, as a hallucinogen like downer.
Tapendatol is not on NL. list, and Dutch don t do pain management, suffering is the way to healing ?

Zolpidem maybe i might once score a pill just to find out. Kill that curiosity.

eMKee

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Hallucination s from a Opioid pain killer , the rushy part i get on o-DSMT is too.
Probably the NRI action, but hallucination s i never had, only heard about Opium dreams.

They're unlike the colorful visions psychedelics give. Nothing great or meaningful. Most are just things that could be real, like the kids fighting or something. And then when I'm about to shout back I realize they're not even there. Or I'm trying to pick up something and realize it's not there. All out of the usual things that might be, nothing mystical or worth remembering...

And the weird effect s Zolpidem has on some, as a hallucinogen like downer.

That effect it only had once in a wild combination, on it's own there was just a confused half-asleep state for me at least.

Tapendatol is not on NL. list, and Dutch don t do pain management, suffering is the way to healing

Zolpidem maybe i might once score a pill just to find out. Kill that curiosity.

eMKee

Good luck if you do, hope it won't hook you either

 

[Neuroborean]

hope your feeling better i had to go to the doctor today my wife phoned and unbelievable i got an appointment straight away due to the fact my tummy has been so sore and i havnt been able to eat or even drink water without running to the bathroom ,apparently they take it very seriously because normally you would have to wait 2 weeks to see a doctor ,ive lost almost half a stone in 5 days or so just through lack of food and fluids .i explained id tried imodium and it never worked [which it didnt ] and he prescribed me 56 15mg codeine tablets which i didnt expect nor was seeking ,its the first time ive been to doctors in 10 years or so and have no history of substance abuse that they are aware of anyway lol .anyway i feel blessed because i now feel normal and have energy ,able to do things like quotes and invoicing which without kratom do not have the energy or incentive to do ,looking forward to some home cooked food tonight .the doctor said ill prescribe you 56 tablets as they might come in handy if you hit your thumb with your hammer in the future .theres hope for humanity yet

Yeah, I don't know why but this time the withdrawals started so soon (12 hours) and the peak was less than 48 hours, then it started getting better easily, except for the insomnia, but insomnia it's my "new normal" since 2018, getting worse and worse, only amanitas and benzos seem to knock me out, I won't get into antipsychs or shit like that.
Here in Europe it's difficult to find imodium or codeine I think, at least afaik. Kava kava and Voacanga seeds were more or less enough for the most part, but the insomnia it's undefeatable even with the benzos I had. Now 500g reached, feeling quite well!

 

[lost weekend]

Yeah, I don't know why but this time the withdrawals started so soon (12 hours) and the peak was less than 48 hours, then it started getting better easily, except for the insomnia, but insomnia it's my "new normal" since 2018, getting worse and worse, only amanitas and benzos seem to knock me out, I won't get into antipsychs or shit like that.
Here in Europe it's difficult to find imodium or codeine I think, at least afaik. Kava kava and Voacanga seeds were more or less enough for the most part, but the insomnia it's undefeatable even with the benzos I had. Now 500g reached, feeling quite well!

I'm glad your feeling better ,my withdrawals start first thing in the morning after my last dose at night .I've made myself a promise that from now on for my evening dose I make tea and put the remaining powder /gloop in a zip bags and freeze .it's a life saver when you run out and if you don't boil it to long[8 mins] then you still have active doses for an emergency, they will soon build up in freezer and might even last me a week .I don't have time in morning so I just toss and wash with warm water.appart from my stomach and low mood insomnia is the worst symptom .I find clonozopam better for trying to get some sleep rather than valium but valium lasts longer in system .the high from codeine was almost like the first time I ever took kratom 17 years ago .I think I mentioned on a previous post I bought unwashed poppy seeds from Internet. They didn't work just made a mess everywhere lol.its funny because the ones I got from well known supermarket did work only for a small while .like I say I'm really glad your feeling much better

 

[lost weekend]

I trust that, though it does feel like an opioid to me, and that's why I tapered it. No issues then. I've been taking silly amounts of Tapentadol instead and so I have to taper once again. This time fr...

Ha tapentadol I tried that once ,I didn't realise it was an opiate and thought it was like pregablin. I had to get out the house and go for a walk just to clear my head I felt genuinely panicked ,my legs were all jerky. It's def not for me although I did Finnish the rest of the strip of course

 

[Asclepius]

Ha tapentadol I tried that once ,I didn't realise it was an opiate and thought it was like pregablin. I had to get out the house and go for a walk just to clear my head I felt genuinely panicked ,my legs were all jerky. It's def not for me although I did Finnish the rest of the strip of course

Losing your balance under the influence is hilarious when your're under 20. When you're working -class, the clown-humour can stretch into your 60s.

 

[Asclepius]

UK internal & foreign office policy- :

 

[lost weekend]

Losing your balance under the influence is hilarious when your're under 20. When you're working -class, the clown-humour can stretch into your 60s.

Hello did you quote my post about tapentadol and the word "like" .I read my post again and really don't see why the word "like" written as it is in the post portrays me as "dumb" Ken fit I meen like

Losing your balance under the influence is hilarious when your're under 20. When you're working -class, the clown-humour can stretch into your 60s.

 

[PtahTek]

yep sober sucks but on the other end of the spectrum is worse, ime/o
maybe somewhere in between....